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DJT in your portfolio - the first two funds reporting (edited)

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  • Breakdown

    67.83% % of Shares Held by All Insider
    6.57% % of Shares Held by Institutions
    20.43% % of Float Held by Institutions
    306 Number of Institutions Holding Shares


    Top Institutional Holders

    Holder Shares Date Reported % Out Value
    Vanguard Group Inc 2.88M Jun 30, 2024 1.44% 56,157,660
    Blackrock Inc. 2.18M Jun 30, 2024 1.09% 42,590,983
    Susquehanna Intl 1.06M Jun 30, 2024 0.53% 20,579,208
    Geode Capital Management, LLC 941.82k Jun 30, 2024 0.47% 18,365,490
    Citadel Advisors Llc 556.05k Jun 30, 2024 0.28% 10,843,053
    State Street Corporation 440.16k Jun 30, 2024 0.22% 8,583,198
    Greenwich Wealth Management Llc 353.5k Jun 30, 2024 0.18% 6,893,250
    Group One Trading, L.P. 340.04k Jun 30, 2024 0.17% 6,630,838
    Charles Schwab Investment 265.87k Jun 30, 2024 0.13% 5,184,484
    Jane Street Group, LLC 264.25k Jun 30, 2024 0.13%

  • well am guessing the first 2 on the list are flashing their commitment to rules based investing.
    give the indexers what they want.
  • edited September 1
    Most indexers pick everything. The ranking above may be just that of indexers by their market shares.

    Is Fido missing from the list? NO.

    Most Fido index funds are sub-advised by Geode Capital Management, #4 on the list. Geode Capital started out at Fido but was later spun off. Fido & Geode remain quite close.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode_Capital_Management
  • I have always felt it's just a vessel for foreign entities to funnel money to him.
  • A slightly different view, FWIW. The first number data after the 'name' is the percentage of, within the total holdings. I.E. .43% for the first Vanguard listing. Page data from M* for the top twenty.
    NT Ext Eq Mkt Indx Fd DC Lending Tier 5	Not Rated	—	0.02	
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    1,649,659,963
    1,649,659,963
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    Jun 30, 2024
    Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx Inv 0.43 0.00
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    868,400
    0
    0.00% Jul 31, 2024
    Vanguard Institutional Extnd Mkt Idx Tr 0.38 0.02
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    756,598
    4,126
    0.55% Jul 31, 2024
    Vanguard Small Cap Index Not Rated 0.34 0.01
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    687,760
    1,863
    0.27% Jul 31, 2024
    Fidelity Extended Market Index 0.14 0.02
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    281,449
    281,449
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    Jun 30, 2024
    Vanguard Small Cap Value Index Inv 0.12 0.01
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    231,593
    1,049
    0.46% Jul 31, 2024
    Vanguard Small Cap Growth Index Inv 0.10 0.02
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    192,865
    -735
    0.38% Jul 31, 2024
    iShares Russell Mid-Cap Growth ETF 0.10 0.03
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    192,396
    152
    0.08% Aug 28, 2024
    iShares Russell Mid-Cap ETF 0.09 0.01
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    181,128
    132
    0.07% Aug 28, 2024
    Russell 1000 Index Fund Not Rated 0.09 0.00
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    174,341
    0
    0.00% Jul 31, 2024
    Blackrock Russ 1000 Eq Idx Composite Not Rated 0.09 0.00
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    174,341
    174,341
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    Jun 30, 2024
    State St Russell Sm/Mid Cp® Indx NL Cl C 0.08 0.01
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    161,788
    116,888
    260.33% Jul 31, 2024
    Schwab US Mid-Cap ETF™ 0.07 0.02
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    131,950
    0
    0.00% Aug 30, 2024
    iShares Russell 1000 Growth ETF 0.06 0.00
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    128,597
    48
    0.04% Aug 28, 2024
    Fidelity Nasdaq Composite Index 0.05 0.03
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    105,223
    30,800
    41.39% May 31, 2024
    BlackRock Extended Equity Market K 0.05 0.02
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    104,537
    104,537
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    Jun 30, 2024
    iShares US Technology ETF 0.05 0.01
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    99,370
    -39
    0.04% Aug 28, 2024
    BlackRock Russell 2500™ Index F 0.05 0.03
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    93,367
    93,367
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    Jun 30, 2024
    Fidelity Total Market Index 0.05 0.00
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    90,922
    90,922
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    Jun 30, 2024
    Fidelity Series Total Market Index 0.03 0.00
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    68,109
    68,109
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    Jun 30, 2024
    Total (for Top 20) 2.36 1,654,384,697
    1,650,626,972
  • edited September 1
    Thanks all for the excellent data folks. Most interesting. It even made Vanguard’s Small
    Cap “Value” Index fund. Amazing. I guess index funds work in strange ways.
  • edited September 3
    CNBC this evening: "DJT shares dropped to $17.89 per share around midday Tuesday, The stock’s prior low was set on Aug. 28, when it hit $19.38 per share. The stock price was down roughly 77% from its high of $79.38 per share on March 26, following Trump Media’s merger with a publicly traded special purpose acquisition company.

    DJT closed at $18.08 per share, down over 7% for the Wednesday trading day."
  • edited September 4
    DJT closed at $16.98 per share, down another 6% today, Wednesday Sept 4. It's obvious that Biden and the Democrats HAVE RIGGED THE STOCK MARKET TOO !!!!!
  • Old_Joe said:

    DJT closed at $16.98 per share, down another 6% today, Wednesday Sept 4. It's obvious that Biden and the Democrats HAVE RIGGED THE STOCK MARKET TOO !!!!!

    It's still $15.98 overpriced though....

    (I'll give $1 of value in their share price to reflect their IT equipment and other capital expenses lol)
  • Some would say $1 is quite generous.
  • edited September 4
    JD_co said:

    Some would say $1 is quite generous.

    Might be worth a gambit at $15.98. I see a reasonable chance the election ends up in the courts. Stock would soar briefly in that event. Then sell it fast before the final verdict is rendered.

    Gotta know when to hold ‘em - know when to fold ‘em … :)
  • From a report in The Guardian:
    Stock plunge wipes out Trump Media’s extraordinary market gains

    Shares in Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG ), owner of Truth Social, closed below $17 on Wednesday, reversing all their gains since the company’s rapid rise took hold in January.

    The former president has been prohibited by a lock-up agreement from starting to sell shares in the firm until late September. While his majority stake in the firm is still worth some $2bn on paper, its value has fallen dramatically from $4.9bn in March.

    As a business, TMTG is not growing rapidly. It generated sales of just $4.13m in 2023, according to regulatory filings, and lost $58.2m.

    Nor is Truth Social growing rapidly as a platform. While TMTG has not disclosed the size of its user base, the research firm Similarweb estimated that in March it had 7.7m visits – while X, formerly Twitter, had 6.1bn. That same month, however, TMTG was valued at almost $10bn on the stock market.
    Comment: Knowing Trump, I'm sure he's using this paper loss to offset actual income somehow, somewhere.
  • edited September 4
    "I see a reasonable chance the election ends up in the courts. Stock would soar briefly in that event. Then sell it fast before the final verdict is rendered."

    Depends on whether they are frivolous law suits. If they are not frivolous, they will likely end up in the US S. Ct. You know what to do after that.
  • Per Barrons this post-debate morning....

    Shares in the Truth Social parent company, which trade under the ticker DJT, were down over 17% to $15.43 in the Wednesday premarket–its lowest price since the merger with the shell company Digital World Acquisition Corp.
  • 2 day old piece in the NYTimes on whether Trump and/or other insiders might sell once the lockup period expires.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/business/trump-media-stock-lockup-agreement.html

    A lot in there. There is some thought that other insiders might sell (especially ones angry with Trump), while Trump himself wouldn't sell. Because he doesn't need the money (asserted in a quote in the article) and because it would alienate his supporters.

    ----
    Turning around the theory that the stock price is tied to Trump's election prospects, if Trump sells that could be taken as an indication that he is not confident about winning.
  • edited September 11
    Down 12.5% today to $16 + change.

    It now appears debate is more than a purely academic exercise!
  • edited September 11
    The significant DJT decline is incongruous with Trump's debate performance.
    The stock's namesake provided his expert assessment of last night's debate:
    "This was my best debate.
    We had a 92% rating in one poll, we had an 86% rating in another, we had 77% in another,
    we won every one of the polls that came out tonight and there were quite a few of them."


    Hmm...
    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/11/politics/video/trump-debate-performance-spin-room-collins-digvid
  • The significant DJT decline is incongruous with Trump's debate performance.
    The stock's namesake provided his expert assessment of the debate:
    "This was my best debate.
    We had a 92% rating in one poll, we had an 86% rating in another, we had 77% in another,
    we won every one of the polls that came out tonight and there were quite a few of them."


    Hmm...
    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/11/politics/video/trump-debate-performance-spin-room-collins-digvid

    I would expect nothing less from him....everything he does is 'winning' and 'perfect' in his mind.

    When a candidate shows up in the spin room after their debate to spin their own performance, it's quite likely they didn't 'win' the debate.
  • After winning the last presidential election winning a debate is really no big deal.
  • I have never come across a stock whose options are more expensive than that of DJT. The Nov 15 calls with $17.5 strike are trading nearly at $6. (Of course, the Jan 2026 calls with the same strike is only at $8.) By comparison, NVDA options are cheap.

    Any way, if you are a lottery buyer, you might be able to buy more lottery with a DJT option play than with its stock.

    Good luck.
  • Interesting thread. 7 pages long, and as far as I can tell, nobody is either long or short the stock.
  • I read an article recently about a man who lost a substantial portion of his retirement savings by investing in DJT — more than $500,000. The article wasn’t political, more of a business article about the dangers of investing with your emotions and lack of diversification. Sorry, I didn’t copy the link.
  • chang said:

    Interesting thread. 7 pages long, and as far as I can tell, nobody is either long or short the stock.

    Not surprising at all -- especially in this group. There's too much risk either way. If you're long, you are losing money. If you are short, you may be profitable now, but have the constant risk of some surprise oligarch pal of his throwing in a few hundred million (or more) to prop the stock up and curry favor with DonOLD, so the chances of a surprise upside risk and getting your face ripped off in a huge short squeeze is not exactly a remote one.

  • Yahoo Finance is showing DJT short interest as 8.44% of the float, 5.12% of the total shares. That is high but not record-breaking.
    This Yahoo Finance Statistics page also has related fundamental details.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DJT/key-statistics/
  • edited September 12
    More sinking:

    "According to Barron’s calculations, if Trump Media’s share price falls below $13 a share, Trump’s paper gains since his company’s merger with the special purpose acquisition company Digital World Acquisition Corp. rapidly vanish. That’s because as the share price declines, the value of Trump’s 114,750,000 shares also drops. A share price of $12.88 would send the value of his shares below the $1.478 billion private valuation of his stake in Trump Media as of Dec. 15, 2023.

    As of Thursday’s close, Trump’s stake was valued around $1.8 billion, down from more than $5.7 billion on March 26, when the merger took place."

    Barrons Article today.

    With apologies because I cannot find a non-paywalled link.
  • to balubalu:

    unsure where to find archived option prices, but several groups noted many recent instances of pennies/day cost.
  • edited September 13
    Here's a non-paywalled link to the Barron's article Mark referenced above.
    Trump Media Stock Is Still Falling
  • edited September 13
    BBG: "Donald Trump says he doesn’t want to sell his Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. shares and that he doesn’t need the money, in remarks at a press conference."

    Uh huh. He's probably hoping that statement can stave off disaster for juuuust another 10 days or so before he dumps them....and besides, he's got enough money coming in from his various other grifts.

    Of course, if he does indeed dump his shares, it'll just further screw his followers who bought it as a way of showing support for him and are already watching their $$$$ melt away each day.
  • "Donald Trump says he doesn’t want to sell his Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. shares and that he doesn’t need the money, in remarks at a press conference."

    Ah ha! I was wondering what set off the sudden stock rise today. Individuals with compromised thought processing who actually believe anything that Trump says.

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