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2025 Trump Executive Orders

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  • Heather Cox Richardson - Letters From an American, January 25, 2025

    NUTS
  • But she’s politically opinionated!
  • edited January 25
    @BaluBalu - Have you set a time limit for this thread - or are we to be so preoccupied 24/7 for the next 4 years?
  • edited January 25
    @davidrmoran - facts are facts, what can I say.

    @hank - no need to fuss, just do what I do and move along when enough becomes enough. IIRC we went through 4-yrs of his preposterous nonsense the last time around. Think we'll get lucky this time?
  • a wee joke reference to fd1k on the fact-based krugman
  • edited January 25
    Mark said:

    Heather Cox Richardson - Letters From an American, January 25, 2025

    NUTS

    "German fascists under leader Adolf Hitler had taken that ideology to its logical end,
    insisting that an elite few must lead, taking a nation forward by directing the actions of the rest.
    They organized the people as if they were at war, ruthlessly suppressing all opposition
    and directing the economy so that business and politicians worked together to consolidate their power.
    Logically, that select group of leaders would elevate a single man, who would become an all-powerful dictator.
    To weld their followers into an efficient machine, fascists demonized opponents into an 'other'
    that their followers could hate, dividing their population so they could control it."

  • All heil Orange?

    Clear to see which playbook he is trying to use. Hope he ends up hiding in a bunker too, but I don't see Melania going with him.
  • Mark said:

    Heather Cox Richardson - Letters From an American, January 25, 2025

    NUTS

    "German fascists under leader Adolf Hitler had taken that ideology to its logical end,
    insisting that an elite few must lead, taking a nation forward by directing the actions of the rest.
    They organized the people as if they were at war, ruthlessly suppressing all opposition
    and directing the economy so that business and politicians worked together to consolidate their power.
    Logically, that select group of leaders would elevate a single man, who would become an all-powerful dictator.
    To weld their followers into an efficient machine, fascists demonized opponents into an 'other'
    that their followers could hate, dividing their population so they could control it."

    Swear and curse at Goldstein on the screen in front of you. A mandatory exercise, in 1984.
  • edited January 25
    Tongue in cheek here: is this the time for Dan Bern to resurrect the earliest band he was part of? They were called "The International Jewish Banking Conspiracy." Perfect target for uncle Orange. The spam is already hitting the fan. I won't be surprised to read about our own version of Kristallnacht sometime soon... These are dangerous times. Let's just see how long it takes for the Orange Disgrace to roust the bishop in Washington, eh? He's just pulled Dr. Fauci's security detail. Maybe the doc would appreciate the freedom? I dunno. But the action seems like an invitation to the deplorables.
  • edited January 26
    @hank, I have not been visiting this thread [NOT] even to scan because posters refused to accept the scope of the thread laid out in my initial posts. I did mention I turned off notifications for this thread. Sorry if self governance has not been working out.
  • The OP was initiated with a very limited scope, rubbing up against politics, anyhow. A few responses warned about that. Wanna move the thing to "off-topic?"
  • @rforno: you are right to highlight the firing of the inspectors general. This move, probably planned for some time, is equivalent to letting the fox guard the henhouse. Trump’s cronies, or those who may otherwise benefit from an ineffectual enforcement of policies, will back up the truck or let their friends do so. I am not sure of the IG’s role in protecting whistleblowers, but it would not surprise me if those who perceive malfeasance will have their voices stifled.


    will not be shielded.
  • @msf

    While unconditional pardons are allowed by the Constitution, this does not mean that pardoning the nation’s enemies does not violate his oath of office “ to faithfully execute the Office of the United States …”. I think a strong argument can be made that by pardoning people convicted of sedition, he is violating his oath of office, as these people were acting to overthrow the Government and subvert the Constitution.

    But the fact that 1600 criminals who were convicted of a variety of acts, many violent, have been released unconditionally means the the Rule of Law that our economy and social order has depended on for over 250 years is no longer reliable. Anyone can be pardoned of any crime if Trump can be convinced to do so.

    Many of his buddies on Wall Street may take this as assurance that the regulations requiring transparency in corporate affairs, earnings reports etc, can be ignored.

    He also single handedly can destroy entire industries, like wind power, with a stroke of his pen.

    Who knows what he will do to the SEC or FDIC or Public Company Accounting Board?

    It is quite possible that many people will no longer believe the US is the premier rules based investment market we have been in the past, and will not want to invest here.
  • edited January 26
    @sma3
    logical, sadly.
  • sma3 said:

    @msf

    While unconditional pardons are allowed by the Constitution, this does not mean that pardoning the nation’s enemies does not violate his oath of office “ to faithfully execute the Office of the United States …”. I think a strong argument can be made that by pardoning people convicted of sedition, he is violating his oath of office, as these people were acting to overthrow the Government and subvert the Constitution.

    But the fact that 1600 criminals who were convicted of a variety of acts, many violent, have been released unconditionally means the the Rule of Law that our economy and social order has depended on for over 250 years is no longer reliable. Anyone can be pardoned of any crime if Trump can be convinced to do so.

    Many of his buddies on Wall Street may take this as assurance that the regulations requiring transparency in corporate affairs, earnings reports etc, can be ignored.

    He also single handedly can destroy entire industries, like wind power, with a stroke of his pen.

    Who knows what he will do to the SEC or FDIC or Public Company Accounting Board?

    It is quite possible that many people will no longer believe the US is the premier rules based investment market we have been in the past, and will not want to invest here.

    hear !
  • edited January 26
    @BaluBalu- I just don't see how you can expect a gutless and spiritless listing of executive office mandates without additional commentary when those mandates will send the United States in directions undisputedly in contradiction to our history and traditional values.

    You are asking us to ignore the recent history of another large nation which was led down that path to it's eventual destruction by one man, appealing to the emotions of a people who thought that this was their way to a decent life.

    If you're uncomfortable with that commentary then perhaps a transfer to the Off-Topic section would be appropriate.
  • F'in rich.... Trump tells Jordan and Egypt to take more refugees. Does he even hear himself... as he throws out refugees!
  • edited January 26
    When will Greenland finally be ours?

    Looking forward to these tariffs we have been hearing about.

    Thankfully, his attempts to end Birthright citizenship were deemed UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
    This is what you get when you elect a 6 time bankruptcy-king who was simply trying to stay out of JAIL. And he made billions this month on shady crypto dealings.

    A prezident for the ages.
  • edited January 26
    Yeah, this should probably be moved to off topic but it is of interest to people re: 110 comments already
  • Executive Orders:

    1. Trump has fired Inspectors Generals from over a dozen agencies

    2. Trump has declared a 25% tariff on Colombia, fully imposed banking and financial sanctions against Colombia and imposed a travel ban on Colombian citizens because Colombia wouldn't accept USA military planes containing illegal immigrants from the USA.

    Colombia's president Petro said that he's open to receiving deportees on non military flights. “I cannot make migrants stay in a country that does not want them,” Mr. Petro wrote, “but if that country sends them back, it should be with dignity and respect for them and for our country.”

    Jeez ...
  • The ones on the Colombia-bound flight were cuffed. That would not happen on a civilian flight. That's a part of what Petro was objecting to. But could such a civilian flight from the US even be arranged which would ensure that the deportees don't manage to pull off any shenanigans?

    A US military flight with deportees lately landed in Manaus, full of Brazilians. It was bound for Belo Horizonte, but diverted with a technical problem with the plane. "Lula" transferred the passenger-deportees to a domestic civilian flight and got the people to the planned-for destination.

    You can bet the Texas acreage promised for detention camps will quickly be populated, if other governments refuse to accept flights full of THEIR OWN citizens. How screwed-up is that?
  • edited January 26
    "You can bet the Texas acreage promised for detention camps will quickly be populated"

    Yes, and I have to wonder if the "detention camps" will have a "Work makes one free" promise over the entrances. (If so, those signs would likely be made in China, but might be granted an exemption to the 25% import tariffs.)

    By far the large agricultural interests are ultra right-wing, and ironically will be severely affected by the imprisonment of their major labor source. BUT- the new prisoners could easily be sent right back to those agricultural interests to work for free. What a deal!

    And if you think that's just not possible under the new administration then you really haven't been paying attention to the likes of Stephen Miller and crew.

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         Right out of the Third Reich
  • edited January 26
    Right, OJ, free prison labor has a long history in the good ol' U.S.A. Some corporate farm(s) could get a big profit bump out of a deal like that.

    I could almost swear I've seen Miller as a Gestapo officer in some WWII movie.
  • https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html#:~:text=On Thursday, the US returned migrants to Guatemala using military planes.&text=The US is also asking,for the country last week.

    Bold added for emphasis:

    Although tariffs can be an effective negotiating tool, they are generally disliked by economists, who believe they are inflationary and can ignite trade wars, which send prices even higher. That is not a universally held view, though. Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase, recently told CNBC that if tariffs help with national security and cause a little bit of inflation, then people should “get over it.”

    Did Jamie Dimon REALLY just say this?
  • edited January 26
    OH NO!!! Coke is going to go up 25% LMAO -- Don Jr. must be mad. I actually like a little pushback.
  • edited January 26
    JD_co said:

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html#:~:text=On Thursday, the US returned migrants to Guatemala using military planes.&text=The US is also asking,for the country last week.

    Bold added for emphasis:

    Although tariffs can be an effective negotiating tool, they are generally disliked by economists, who believe they are inflationary and can ignite trade wars, which send prices even higher. That is not a universally held view, though. Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase, recently told CNBC that if tariffs help with national security and cause a little bit of inflation, then people should “get over it.”

    Did Jamie Dimon REALLY just say this?

    Spoken like a true 1%-er CEO also trying to curry favor with the current regime.....


  • Pucker up, Jamie. All heil the leader. Yes, politics at play.


    Interesting that Dump is now using the US government to try to stockpile Digital Assets....just after he "minted" his own meme-coin last week. Hmmmm.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlkjejpwr8o

    "The introduction of these coins during the presidential inauguration raises concerns about potential conflicts of interest and may undermine the dignity of the president and the first lady," said Grzegorz Drozdz, market analyst at investment firm Conotoxia.


    I would argue that you cannot undermine one's dignity if there wasn't any there to start with.
  • AndyJ said:


    I could almost swear I've seen Miller as a Gestapo officer in some WWII movie.

    Oh, sure, you have, we all have.

    But a first for someone Jewish, I expect.

    Think of how to resist, in even the tiniest of ways. Don't give in to despair. Beyond the performative supertrolling and the destructive cruelty, the emoluments stuff alone is to enough to ... well, I don't know what.
  • @David. It’s a shanda.
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