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  • GLFOX Return of Capital
    @BenW: I don't see any ROC !
    Regards,
    Ted
    Dividend and Capital Gains Distributions GLFOX
    Distribution
    Date Distribution
    NAV Long-Term
    Capital Gain Short-Term
    Capital Gain Return of
    Capital Dividend
    Income Distribution
    Total
    06/21/2017 17.08 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0004 0.0004
    03/21/2017 15.28 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0210 0.0210
    12/22/2016 14.22 0.0963 0.0242 0.0000 0.1569 0.2774
    09/27/2016 13.98 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0212 0.0212
    08/22/2016 14.10 0.0164 0.0048 0.0000 0.0284 0.0497
  • GLFOX Return of Capital
    Just got an email from Lazard informing shareholders that the June distribution has been characterized as a Return of Capital. Heard of leveraged CEFs doing this, but not an OEF. Probably don't have to worry about changing the basis because this holding is in a Roth. Still, seems bizarre. Anyone had this experience?
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    @Jojo26
    The RBC study you referenced looks at the KLD 400 Index. According to MSCI, the index's owner: "The MSCI KLD 400 Social Index is maintained in two stages. First, securities of companies involved in Nuclear Power, Tobacco, Alcohol, Gambling, Military Weapons, Civilian Firearms, GMOs and Adult Entertainment are excluded." https://msci.com/documents/10199/904492e6-527e-4d64-9904-c710bf1533c6
    It is precisely such exclusionary screens for SRI funds I stated the research was neutral about, revealing that such exclusionary indexes/funds either match the market or lag it slightly. It is ESG rankings in which every sector is included but the worst ranked ESG companies are minimized or eliminated that there is strong corroborative evidence for. Since you didn't read the links I provided to the DB report, here is an important excerpt:
    The evidence is compelling: Sustainable Investing can be a clear win for investors and for companies. However, many SRI fund managers, who have tended to use exclusionary screens, have historically struggled to capture this. We believe that ESG analysis should be built into the investment processes of every serious investor, and into the corporate strategy of every company that cares about shareholder value. ESG best-in-class focused funds should be able to capture superior risk-adjusted returns if well executed.
    This is the key finding of our report in which we looked at more than 100 academic studies of sustainable investing around the world, and then closely examined and categorized 56 research papers, as well as 2 literature reviews and 4 meta studies – we believe this is one of the most comprehensive reviews of the literature ever undertaken.
    Frequently, Sustainable Investing is stated to yield ‘mixed results”. However, by breaking down our analysis into different categories (SRI, CSR, and ESG) we have identified exactly where in the sprawling, diverse universe of so-called Sustainable Investment, value has been found.
    By applying what we believe to be a unique methodology, we show that “Corporate Social Responsibility” (CSR) and most importantly, “Environmental, Social and Governance” (ESG) factors are correlated with superior risk-adjusted returns at a securities level. In conducting this analysis, it became evident that CSR has essentially evolved into ESG. At the same time, we are able to show that studies of fund performance – which have been classified “Socially Responsible Investing” (SRI) in the academic literature and have tended to rely on exclusionary screens – show SRI adds little upside, although it does not underperform either. Exclusion, in many senses, is essentially a values-based or ethical consideration for investors.
    We were surprised by the clarity of the results we uncovered:
    100% of the academic studies agree that companies with high ratings for CSR and ESG factors have a lower cost of capital in terms of debt (loans and bonds) and equity. In effect, the market recognizes that these companies are lower risk than other companies and rewards them accordingly. This finding alone should put the issue of Sustainability squarely into the office of the Chief Financial Officer, if not the board, of every company.
    89% of the studies we examined show that companies with high ratings for ESG factors exhibit market-based outperformance, while 85% of the studies show these types of company’s exhibit accounting-based outperformance. Here a gain, the market is showing correlation between financial performance of companies and what it perceives as advantageous ESG strategies, at least over the medium (3-5 years) to long term (5-10 years).
    The single most important of these factors, and the most looked at by academics to date, is Governance (G), with 20 studies focusing in on this component of ESG (relative to 10 studies focusing on E and 8 studies on S). In other words, any company that thinks it does not need to bother with improving its systems of corporate governance is, in effect, thumbing its nose at the market and hurting its own performance all at the same time. In the hierarchy of factors that count with investors and the markets in general, Environment is the next most important, followed closely by Social factors.
    Most importantly, when we turn to fund returns, it is notable that these are all clustered into the SRI category. Here, 88% of studies of actual SRI fund returns show neutral or mixed results. Looking at the compositions of the fund universes included in the academic studies we see a lot of exclusionary screens being used. However, that is not to say that SRI funds have generally underperformed. In other words, we have found that SRI fund managers have struggled to capture outperformance in the broad SRI category but they have, at least, not lost money in the attempt.
    These conclusions go a long way towards explaining why the concept of sustainable investing has taken so long to gain acceptance and even now inspires indifference and even cynicism among many investors. It has been too closely associated for too long with the SRI fund manager results which are not only an extremely broad category (i.e. in terms of investment mandate), but historically were based more on exclusionary – as opposed to positive or best-in-class – screening. ESG investing, by contrast, takes the best-in-class approach. By analyzing the various categories within the universe of sustainable investing, we can now say confidently that the ESG approach, at an analytical level, works for investors and for companies both in terms of cost of capital and corporate financial performance (on a market and accounting basis). It is now a question of ESG best-in-class funds capturing the available returns.
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    @Maurice
    If investments were truly socially responsible, then they wouldn't invest in anything related to capitalism. Therefore the only thing left to invest in is government. But no profits, dividends or capital gains there.
    I believe Treasury bonds, savings bonds and municipal bonds are all investments in the government and have managed to generate returns for investors for many years.
  • KKR To Buy WebMD For $2.8 Billion
    FYI: (KKR is one of my income stock, that has had some nice capital appreciation in the last year coupled with a 3.52% dividend yield.)
    .YTD 25.57%
    .1 Year 33.55%
    WebMD Health Corp. agreed to be taken private by buyout firm KKR & Co. for about $2.8 billion, five months after hiring bankers to explore a possible sale.
    Stockholders of the online health information company will receive $66.50 a share in cash, according to a statement Monday. The price is 20 percent more than Friday’s closing level and 29 percent higher than where the shares traded in mid-February, when New York-based WebMD hired JPMorgan Chase & Co. to review strategic alternatives.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/webmd-agrees-to-be-bought-by-buyout-firm-kkr-for-2-8-billion
  • Fund Manager #@$%*! Fired as Trump's Communications Director
    @Lewis: "Fund Manager to Be Trump's Communications Director" I think you need to pay a lot more attention to details before you fire off another anti-Trump post. Skybridge Capital a single fund, SKYIX, which is managed by Raymond C. Nolte and Brendan G. Voege, not Anthony Scaramucci. Next time get your facts straight !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Regards,
    Ted :( :( :( :( :(
  • World Allocation Fund With Low Risk
    CWGFX has a sister fund that is world allocation. CAIBX is available likely available NL, NTF at Fidelity. Now it is at 22% bond which is fairly low. About 50/50 US/Int equity with heavy focus on dividends, hence name Capital Income Builder. American funds have been solid performers and many are no load on Fido platform.
  • World Allocation Fund With Low Risk
    American Funds Capital World Growth and Income Fund could fit the bill. You can put your money alongside the other $90 billion.
  • World Allocation Fund With Low Risk
    Over at M* boards, CCAPX (Chiron Capital Allocation) has been topic of conversation - newer World Allocation fund that has done fine in its very short life. Its on my watchlist.
  • M*: An Outstanding Large-Cap Fund For Patient Investors: (DODGX)
    "Huh? Gosh, the three ]LCV funds] I moved to long ago from DODGX (before placing everything LCV in DSEEX): PRBLX. YACKX, and TWEIX."
    What is long ago? DODGX was in the top quintile for 2009 and top fiftieth (second percentile) in 2011 and 2012. D&C funds often go through multi year funks and multi year spurts. 2008 is an important benchmark, as is 2015 for value funds. (By that latter metric, DSEEX looks good, at least so far.)
    If one wants a smooth ride, shorter term, D&C funds are not the way to go. M* seemed to agree, saying that DODGX had enviable long term results. But (assuming that the long term market trend is upward) there is a problem with long term investors placing too much emphasis on the down years.
    For example, one investor here five years ago almost to the day (Aug 2012) wrote about another D&C fund (DODBX):
    "it certainly seems to have improved, but (recent, tempting) past performance does not etc. I cannot imagine why anyone would automatically prefer it now over Oakbx, Glrbx, and even AOR / AOM, my two 'new' favorite ETFs. "
    Here's the five year chart comparing these five funds.
    (Data per M* as of 7/17/17) Growth of $10K:
    DODBX: $18,358.73
    OAKBX: $15,848.45
    AOR: $14,959.24
    AOM: $13,422.89
    GLRBX: $13,366.85
    Now I'm not suggesting that one compare any of these funds with the S&P 500 (or S&P 1500); they're a different type of fund and the comparison wouldn't be meaningful. Likewise, I wouldn't go comparing value funds with blend (e.g. SPY) or growth funds, especially over the past decade when growth had a decided advantage. Heck, if I were to do that I'd just dump everything into a growth fund - even the average (median) LCG fund (NMFAX) returned 7.48% over the past decade, beating the S&P 500.
    D&C, like many peers (and also unlike many other peers) completely blew 2008, getting caught in a value trap - continuing to hold on the way down. The questions are: how likely is another 2008, has D&C modified its investment process since then, is short term (e.g. 2015) or even prolonged underperformance acceptable in exchange for longer term gains? Different people have different answers.
  • Q&A With Dennis Gartman, Editor, The Gartman Letter
    FYI: Dennis Gartman is the man behind The Gartman Letter, a daily newsletter discussing global capital markets. For almost 30 years, The Gartman Letter has tackled the political, economic and social trends shaping the world's markets. ETF.com recently caught up with Gartman to discuss the latest developments in the financial markets.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://www.etf.com/sections/features-and-news/gartmans-favorite-trades-right-now?nopaging=1
  • SFGIX Underperformance
    I have no reason to believe Foster has suddenly taken dumb pills. He has ably managed dollars for my clients and me for about 10 years, first at MAPIX and with SIGIX since he started that fund. I frankly do not care if the fund under-performs during an EM bull market. It is up about 12% year to-date. I'll gladly take that. The way bigger test for me is when EM is struggling, as they did in 2013, 2014, 2015, and even 2016 to some extent. In those years, SIGIX came through as I expected it would. If you bought SIGIX for outsized gains during EM bull markets, you bought the wrong fund. That is not how the fund is run. While I am sure Andy would like to be at the top this year, and that he is frustrated to be near the bottom, that does not bother me one bit.
  • John Waggoner: A Shares Live On, Despite Some Hefty Upfront Sales Charges
    Hi @Derf,
    Not all the nav transfers were in retiremnt accounts as ira accounts were not available (I believe) until sometime in the 80's. And, I started investing during my early teenage years around 1960. Therefore, some nav transfers were subject to capital gain taxation on profits.
    Skeet
  • SFGIX Underperformance

    I don't give a hoot about meeting any particular performance benchmark but my own.
    If a fund I hold gains 16% and everyone else gains 25% in a given year, I am not worried; it's still a very solid rate of return imho. Conversely, if a given fund loses significantly less than everyone else, I will chalk that up as a 'win' for the year, as it shows some concern over downside risks and/or good allocations.
    And besides, one year does not matter if you're a long-term fund investor. Unless you're in a bubble, not everything moves equally and in the same direction at all times.
  • Periodic Table: Annual Asset Class Returns: 2003-YTD
    FYI: The chart below shows several issues investors struggle with all the time. It’s difficult to pick the best performing investment year after year, yet for many investors, it’s an annual event. They look for an encore, picking the best asset class last year with the hope of a repeat performance. Yet, betting on last year’s winner rarely works out.
    Assets at the top of the chart one year could be at the bottom the next, and vice versa. Much of this is due to reversion to the mean. But over the long-term, those big swings even out. The chart shows annual returns for eight asset classes against a diversified portfolio. Diversification works to smooth out those big swings in the short-term. While you’ll never get the biggest gains of any year, you avoid the huge losses.
    The table below ranks the best to worst investment returns by asset class over the past 15 years. Hover over the table to highlight the asset class returns.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://novelinvestor.com/asset-class-returns/
  • M*: Fund Focus: American Funds Capital Income Builder
    FYI: Silver-rated American Funds Capital Income Builder delivers an above-average and rising income stream without neglecting total return.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/article.aspx?id=814636
    Lipper Snapshot CAIBX:
    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/caibx
    CAIBX Ranks #12 In The (WA) Fund Category By U.S. News & World Report:
    http://money.usnews.com/funds/mutual-funds/world-allocation/american-funds-capital-income-bldr/caibx
  • Clouds Are Forming Over The Bond Market
    FYI: The bond market is flashing warning signals that bad times may be ahead for the stock market and the economy.
    That is probably not what most people want to hear — stock investors especially. In the first half of the year, after all, stocks have performed spectacularly. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index returned 9 percent through June, churning out gains so regularly that it may seem churlish to note that clouds are appearing on the horizon.
    Yet like a long-range forecast about a possible storm, an old and trusted financial indicator is telling us that trouble may be looming.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/your-money/clouds-are-forming-over-the-bond-market.html
  • Muni bonds in troubles?
    Hi,
    I most likely will add to my single state muni fund (FMTNX) when the US 10 Year reaches a yield of 2.5%, or thereabouts, with current yield at about 2.3%. Remember, generally bond prices fall as their yield rises. I hold this fund as part of my infrastructure theme along with PGUAX since muni bonds fund a lot of local government infrastructure projects. Plus, the fund is both state and federal tax exempt, for me, unless it has capital gains to disburse.