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  • yugo said:

    @msf I did some digging on U.S. Bank website and it looks like you might be able to get away with $50K IRA balance to avoid the $50 annual fee on their upcoming Smartly Visa.

    This may need to be verified, but it seems like if you enroll in the free U.S. Bank Smart Rewards program they will waive the IRA fee starting @ $50K plus give you a few other perks.

    If so: 3% cash back @ $50K IRA and 4% cash back @ $100K IRA - no annual fee.

    Thanks! So it seems that U.S. Bank has a program (Smart Rewards) similar to BofA's Preferred Rewards.
    yugo said:

    I must be missing something about CapitalOne. None of their 1.5% cash back cards seem to have a higher rate on travel like others offering 4% or 5%. Price match is nice but it only works for 24h, only refunds in travel credits, and you have to go through the hassle of calling them to get it… So, for the unlikely chance that you have overlooked a good deal before booking and then find one within 24h afterwards, you’d have to give up extra 0.5% to 3.5%+ of cash back available at other cash back cards. Does this compute…??

    The virtue of the price match is not that something will suddenly go on sale, but that bank travel "portal" prices can regularly be beaten. Getting 5pts/$ at a travel portal is worthless if you can beat their prices by even 5% at the time you make the reservation. This is why I consider travel bonuses with credit cards at other banks as useless if you have to use their "portals".

    CapitalOne gives 5x on travel you book through them with their Venture cards, not their Quicksilver cards. Since much of our spending these days has been on travel, I've been willing to look at cards biased toward travel expenses.

    I have never bought trip cancellation/interruption insurance, feeling that I don't need the former and I can "self insure" for the latter and come out ahead. These are expensive policies. But I'm beginning to reconsider. I didn't post the cards I'm looking at for travel because they're not coupled with brokerages (i.e. not investment related).

    FWIW, Chase Sapphire Reserved seems to give the highest level of coverage for two or more travelers ($10K per traveler up to $20K per trip, up to $40K/year) for $95. I don't mind giving up around 2% in rewards as "payment" for the insurance. Wells Fargo Autograph Journey, also $95, pays 4x-5x on travel and provides up to $15K per traveler. But it limits coverage per trip to $20K, so if you're traveling with someone else, that's no better than Sapphire. And its annual limit is just $20K. And unlike many other cards, it looks like the insurance doesn't cover you if your traveling companion gets sick, unless you are needed as caretaker.

    >> already got other cards that give me 5% on groceries
    I missed it --- which one is that?


    I didn't mention it because I was avoiding posting about cards with rotating categories. Citibank's Custom Cash reward pays 5% on the single category you use the most during a monthly billing cycle, up to $500. Not all that useful except I wanted to have a MC in my wallet that I might actually use, at least a little. Groceries seems to be the best category for me to use, so that's all I buy with it, usually.

    If one is adept at managing rotating categories on other cards, then any quarter when one of those gives 5% for groceries, the Citibank card can be used for another category.
  • Ya, and I've heard some bunk at the point of sale about the fee being reverted and charged back to the customer: it's not the merchant charging the CC fee back to me, they said; it's the customer paying the merchant for the privilege of using the new stoopid payment gizmo they just upgraded to. Feces.
  • edited November 3
    I have been using the Fidelity CC for years but switched mostly to Pended CC with 2% cash back
    https://www.penfed.org/credit-cards
    Because Pended superior customer service and easier claim filing.
    The other cards I have used for years are
    *The Pended 5% at all gas stations, you must pay at the pump.
    * Amazon CC paying 5% on Amazon purchases.
    * Schwab world ATM which pays back all fees when you take out cash.
  • @FD1000. You probably mean Penfed ( Pentagon Federal CC). I have the 5% gas rebate card which is a great money saver!
  • @rforno,

    Call your United card customer service to see if they no longer require you to charge at least once a year to extend the expiration of your United miles.
  • BaluBalu said:

    @rforno,

    Call your United card customer service to see if they no longer require you to charge at least once a year to extend the expiration of your United miles.

    Thanks. Though tbh, it's become force-of-habit at this point to run some niggling purchase. usually some piece of software I want to try, each year.
  • msf said:

    CapitalOne gives 5x on travel you book through them with their Venture cards, not their Quicksilver cards. Since much of our spending these days has been on travel, I've been willing to look at cards biased toward travel expenses.

    Makes more sense now. I thought you were referencing @BenWP and there was a Venture card I'd missed with 1.5% flat cashback rate and not air travel points.
    msf said:

    Still with CapitalOne at 1.5% for everything, no fee
    CapitalOne seems to have an excellent reputation, and as I noted above, price matches on its travel "portal", making its Venture cards more valuable than other banks' for travelers.

    Venture cards - particularly, Venture X - do look pretty good if you travel a lot: spend more than ~ $10,400 per year on travel + are willing to go through the hassle of first booking via CapitalOne Travel and then calling in price matches. Else, if I understood the terms correctly, one can only get $0.005 per mile so effective cash back rate drops to 2.5% Air / 5% Hotels & Car Rental / 1% Other.

    Alternatively, one could get a BofA Customized Cash Rewards, put $100K into BofA/Merrill - I agree on the latter being "passable" - and have an actual cash back rate of 5.25% Travel / 3.5% Grocery & Club / 1.75% Others up to $2,500 / quarter w no annual fee. No trip cancellation/interruption insurance, though.
  • P.S. If you happen to live in Green Bay or thereabouts, apparently, you can get a 5% cash back on everything card up to $1000 / mo - no annual fee.
  • msf
    edited November 4
    Alternatively, one could get a BofA Customized Cash Rewards, put $100K into BofA/Merrill - I agree on the latter being "passable" - and have an actual cash back rate of 5.25% Travel / 3.5% Grocery & Club / 1.75% Others up to $2,500 / quarter w no annual fee. No trip cancellation/interruption insurance, though.

    And you get to change your 5.25% category once per calendar month even though the $2500 combined limit (for chosen category + groceries + club) resets just quarterly.

    A problem with using a card with a spend cap on bonus cash back (here $2.5K) is that it doesn't work well with "lumpy" categories like travel. In any given quarter one may likely spend much more (esp. for a family) on trips or much less. It's hard to control travel expenses to maximize the card's value.

    (On the plus side, at BofA "travel" is very broad and includes "transit" - local commuter stuff like busses and cabs - that Citi excludes from "travel".)

    IMHO this card is better suited for the online spending category, for a few reasons. Online spending includes cable/internet/streaming; it's easier to bunch smaller, frequent online purchases to get close to the spending cap; and these days we purchase so much stuff online (but services like taxes and doctors don't count).

    If one is limiting travel charges to around $2K, one can find other cards with good travel cash back that cover trip cancellation/interruption. US Bank's Altitude Connect (mentioned above) covers up to $2K per person (though with "just" 4x points unless you book through its "portal" for 5x).

    Side note: The old 2% Schwab Visa card gradually(?) evolved into the BofA Customized Cash Rewards card after Schwab got rid of it. So there is another connection between this card and a brokerage.

  • bee said:
    Interesting piece. Of course to achieve the theoretical maximum benefits possible one could simply get the highest paying card in each category. (What's in your wallet, and your second wallet, and your next wallet ...?) The trick is to optimize subject to the contraints that you want no more than N cards, that you typically spend so many dollars in each category, and that you want to remain sane.

    Because we're doing a fair amount of traveling, I started looking at cards with extensive travel protection, no travel spending caps, and a high cash back multiplier (esp. if travel protection is limited). It's a take on greedy bin packing heuristics - filling your wallet with the "biggest" (most useful/valuable) card first, ruling out cards that overlap with it, then putting the next most valuable card, and so on.

  • edited 11:24AM
    For @msf and others interested in CC travel insurance, just came across this:

    Credit Card Travel Insurance Study

    In summary, according to their metrics, out of 98 cards top 3 are:

    1. Chase Sapphire Reserve - best for Travel Accident Insurance

    2. Bank of America Premium Rewards Elite - best for Luggage Insurance

    3. Chase Sapphire Preferred - best for Trip Delay / Cancellation Insurance

    Best Overall Travel Insurance Coverage: Chase Sapphire Reserve
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