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  • The Freakshow Behind the Curtain: 25,000 funds that you didn't even know existed
    ETFs? Nope. There are just about 1,800 of them - with a new, much-needed Social Media Sentiment Index ETF on the way (whew!) - controlling only $3 trillion. You already know about the 7,700 '40 Act funds and the few hundred remaining CEFs are hardly a blip (with apologies to RiverNorth, to whom they're a central opportunity).
    No, I mean the other 24,725 private funds, the existence of which is revealed in unintelligible detail in a recent SEC staff report entitled Private Fund Statistics, 4th Quarter 2014 (October 2015). That roster includes:
    8,625 hedge funds, up by 1100 since the start of 2013
    8,407 private equity funds, up by 1400 in that same period
    4,058 "other" private funds
    2,386 Section 4 private equity funds
    1,789 real estate funds
    1,541 qualifying hedge funds
    1,327 securitized asset funds
    504 venture capital funds
    69 liquidity funds
    49 Section 3 liquidity funds, these latter two being the only categories in decline
    The number of private funds was up by 4,200 between Q1/2013 and Q4/2014 with about 200 new advisers entering the market. They have $10 trillion in gross assets and $6.7 trillion in net assets. (Nope, I don't know what gross assets are.) SEC-registered funds own about 1% of the shares of those private funds.
    If Table 20 is to be credited, almost no hedge ever uses a high-frequency trading strategy. (You'll have to imagine me at my desk, nodding appreciatively.)
    Sadly, the report explains nothing. You get tables of technical detail with nary a definition nor an explanation in sight. "Asset Weighted-Average Qualifying Hedge Fund Investor and Portfolio Liquidity" assures that that fund liquidity at seven days is about 58% while investor liquidity in that same period is about 15%. Not a word anywhere about what that means. An appendix defines about 10 terms, no one of which is related to their data reports.
    As ever,
    David
  • quick snapshot of mutual fund news, 10/19
    FPA Crescent Fund – Q3 2015 Update
    Activity:
    o Sold out of Norsk Hydro and Sulzer
    o Added to several names, including Alcoa, CIT Group, Cisco, LPL Financial, General
    Electric
    o Purchased a handful of new equity positions and a few new fixed income positions,
    including Glencore and Bombardier, in the quarter.
    o Top contributors for the quarter were Google, Sound Holdings, Microsoft, Sears Holding
    Corp. 6.625% Due 10/15/2018, and Bombardier 7.750% Due 3/15/2020. Oracle, Joy
    Global, Aon, Citigroup and United Technologies were the top detractors for the period.
    Positioning:
    o Gross exposure to equities is circa 58% and net equity exposure is approximately 55%.
    Fixed Income increased a bit to 3.4%.
    o Added to private investments, specifically real estate partnerships.
    o Cash is approximately 40%.
    Outlook:
    o Still challenging to find bargains, but is improving. We are looking at various areas of
    opportunities, including Chinese internet, copper, oil/gas and Brazil

    http://www.fpafunds.com/docs/fpa-crescent-fund/q3-2015-crescent-update.pdf?sfvrsn=2
  • Replacement for RSIVX Multi sector bond fund. in a Roth ira fund purchased about a year ago.
    The strategic income bond fund moniker probably ought to be outlawed - as it tends more to obfuscate than enlighten. That term can refer to a wide variety of approaches. As heezsafe notes, this fund invests largely in lower quality bonds rated BBB and below. While BBB technically denotes investment grade, these are considered "speculative" - having some characteristics of investment grade and some of non-investment grade. The holdings in AAA (likely U.S. government backed) is designed to hedge against the risks of all those lower rated bonds. That's probably where the strategic part of the name originates.
    Andy's link (below) puts the non-investment grade portion at 68%.The 1.24% ER is a tad high - but not unusual for funds investing in lower rated bonds. Apparently, more intensive research is required on the manager's part.
    I don't have any wisdom to offer or bone to pick here. Like Ralph I've chosen to hold a substantial amount of income producing assets in my older Roth IRA - seeking to protect some of the big gains from equities following the '07-'09 meltdown. FWIW, these 3 have filled the bill for me: RPSIX, DODIX, DODLX. (The last one has fared even worse, however, than RSVIX, being exposed to international bonds.). If I were to recommend one to Ralph it would be RPSIX - along with a healthy dose of patience!
    (Earlier posted bond quality ratings removed per Andy's helpful note below.)
  • Portfolio Review
    @bee: Your question on tracking a portfolio is thought provoking. Here’s my 2 cents.
    I am retired, thus I am in the withdrawal stage, not the accumulation phase. I use a Lazy Portfolio Scheme to implement an asset allocation of 50/50 stocks to bonds.
    I use Excel worksheets as follows:
    A “Portfolio” worksheet tracks the portfolio (I also have a “Temp” and “Rebalance” worksheets described later). At the top are today’s date, current value, value at end of last year, and YTD percent gain/loss. My current YTD is a loss of 2.114% that includes all drawdowns to date including most of my Minimum Required Distribution (MRD).
    NEXT is the “Assets” table of current price, shares owned, value and category (Domestic Stock, International Stock, Fixed Income, and Cash) for each asset. It is arranged in alphabetic order to accommodate brokerage watch lists and Excel LOOKUP functions.
    I use the following categories:
    Domestic Stock
    International Stock
    Fixed Income
    Cash
    NEXT are details for each account in my portfolio (Rollover IRA, TIAA Traditional, A-Trust, B-Trust, Individual, Experimental, and Credit Union). For each account the Price, Shares, Value and category of each asset are listed. A summary by category shows the value, and percent of each category in the account.
    LAST is a Consolidated Details for all accounts. I use a separate table for each of the categories. For each asset I list Price, Sum of shares from all accounts, Value, Current Allocation, and Target Allocation.
    Thus I can visualize my portfolio in terms of assets, assets in each account, and assets sorted by category.
    A “Temp” worksheet provides an intermediary for specifying current asset prices. I copy values from a Watchlist in my Fidelity account. I paste the values from the watchlist into the Temp worksheet and then copy the price column to the portfolio worksheet. (Note that I have arranged my assets in alphabetical order for this to work.) The Temp worksheet can be used for general calculations with the restriction that no other worksheet should link to any cell in the Temp worksheet.
    A “Rebalance” worksheet calculates buys and sells when I rebalance my asset allocation portfolio. In general I compare the current allocation of an asset to a target allocation and do buys and sells to rebalance to target values.
    First I create a “Target Allocation Table” that shows target allocations for each of the four categories and the assets in each category. I initially set the target values in collaboration with a fee-only Financial Advisor. The values by major category:
    29% Domestic Stock ETFs
    21% International Stock ETFs
    45% Fixed IncomeS
    5% Cash
    I won’t go into details of this worksheet, but have the following remarks:
    1. There will be a variety of account types: As one gets older different financial situations occur, e.g. trust accounts, retirement, death/divorce of spouse, marriage, etc. There needs to be flexibility to handle financial resources that are not mutual funds or ETFs. My situation has accounts:
    Trust-A
    Trust-B (with its separate tax-ID)
    Rollover IRA
    Individual (used as a conduit between other accounts and my bank)
    Experimental
    Credit Union
    Life can become more complicated in retirement!
    2. I fine-tune allocations between accounts: Although my Rebalance worksheet does an initial calculation of buys and sells, I manually fine-tune the allocations for the following reasons:
    a. I want to have sufficient cash in the IRA to fund my MRD from that account.
    b. I want to take capital gains in tax deferred accounts, not taxable accounts.
    c. In the Trust-B account I want to minimize taxes so I over allocate a muni-bond fund.
    d. The Experimental account is exempt from buys and sells of a rebalance operation.
    3. I combine two or more assets into a “Combined Asset”. For example I am taking a Minimum Required Distribution (MRD) from a TIAA Traditional account that does not allow me to trade this asset. (There are other options I could have selected, but immediately liquidating the entire asset was not available.) I have solved this by combining the TIAA with my BND ETF and allocate a percentage to the combined quantity that I call “Total Bond Market/Long-Term Fixed Income” Within this combined asset, I assign TIAA’s target allocation to its current allocation, and the BND target allocation to the difference of the target allocation assigned to the Combined Asset and the TIAA current allocation. Another example might be a $10,000 T-Bill that can only be sold in its entirety. Yes, I know this is a forum about mutual funds and ETFs, but stuff happens and we need to adapt.
    4. I rebalance based on a calendar event, not a market event or a difference between current and target asset percentages. I have chosen the middle of August and February. I want to avoid any semblance of market timing.
    I hope you find this useful.
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    Thanks davidmoran!
    A mutual fund manager must constantly re-balance the fund by selling securities to accommodate shareholder redemptions or to re-allocate assets. The sale of securities within the mutual fund portfolio creates capital gains for the shareholders, even for shareholders who may have an unrealized loss on the overall mutual fund investment.
    In contrast, an ETF manager accommodates investment inflows and outflows by creating or redeeming “creation units,” which are baskets of assets that approximate the entirety of the ETF investment exposure. As a result, the investor usually is not exposed to capital gains on any individual security in the underlying structure.
    It seems extraordinary to me.
    And yes, good point on after-tax performance.
    c
  • WSJ: Are you ready to buy stocks from your grocery store?
    I believe there are some venture capital firms who are letting individual investors invest in private companies for a fee. This is like shadow trading if you think about it.
    What Bitcoin doing to traditional currencies, this shadow trading in illiquid private companies is doing to the stock market. Taken to the extreme, companies do not have to go public. Effectively they are now like a CEF with fixed number of shareholders.
    Just like with a currency - especially today when everything is by fiat - it is all about confidence. If 10 venture capitalists feel comfortable trading a companies "equity" amongst themselves, who's to stop them? If the company founders get the necessary capital they need and keep share of profits, that's all that matters.
  • Gold Over 200 Day Hurdle

    Joe Deaux
    Ranjeetha Pakiam
    October 14, 2015 — 2:50 PM CDT
    Updated on October 14, 2015 — 8:52 PM CDT Bloomberg
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    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-14/gold-comes-back-to-life-as-prices-top-200-day-moving-average
    Gold at Over 3-Month High on Bets Fed To Delay Rate Hike
    Thomson Reuters | Last Updated: October 15, 2015 07:27 (IST)
    Gold is a non-yielding asset and tends to benefit from ultra-low rates.
    It also benefited as the dollar on Wednesday slumped to its lowest since late August against a basket of major currencies. A weaker dollar makes gold cheaper for holders of other currencies.
    Elsewhere, Elliott Management Chief Executive Paul Singer said on Wednesday every institutional portfolio should be 5-10 percent invested in gold to protect against zero interest rates that are degrading the value of paper currency.
    Among other precious metals, silver hit a 3-1/2-month high of $16.18 an ounce on Thursday before easing slightly. Platinum climbed to a five-week high of $999, before giving up gains to trade down 0.2 percent. Palladium edged up.
    http://profit.ndtv.com/news/market/article-gold-at-over-3-month-high-on-bets-fed-to-delay-rate-hike-1232386
  • Proposed reorganization of Sound Point Floating Rate Income Fund
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1261788/000089418915005215/sndpt-tap_497e.htm
    497 1 sndpt-tap_497e.htm SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIALS (STICKER - 497E)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    SOUND POINT FLOATING RATE INCOME FUND
    a series of
    Trust for Advised Portfolios
    Investor Class SPFRX
    Institutional Class SPFLX
    Supplement dated October 14, 2015
    to the Fund’s Prospectus dated December 29, 2014
    ***********************************
    We wish to inform you that the Board of Trustees of Trust for Advised Portfolios (the “Trust”) has approved a plan of reorganization whereby the Sound Point Floating Rate Income Fund (the “Sound Point Fund”) will reorganize into the American Beacon Sound Point Floating Rate Income Fund (the “American Beacon Fund”) (the “Reorganization”). The American Beacon Fund, a newly created series of American Beacon Funds, is designed to be substantially similar from an investment perspective to the Sound Point Fund. The Reorganization, which is expected to be tax free to the shareholders of the Sound Point Fund and which is subject to a number of closing conditions, including the approval of Sound Point Fund shareholders, will entail the transfer of all of the assets and liabilities of the Sound Point Fund to the American Beacon Fund in exchange for shares of the American Beacon Fund.
    The Reorganization will shift investment management oversight responsibility for the Sound Point Fund from Sound Point Capital Management, LP (“Sound Point”) to American Beacon Advisors, Inc., an experienced provider of investment advisory services to institutional and retail investors. Sound Point, however, will continue to provide day-to-day portfolio management as the sub-adviser to the American Beacon Fund. This arrangement will allow for continuity of the portfolio management team that has been responsible for the performance record of the Sound Point Fund since its inception. The portfolio managers of Sound Point who are primarily responsible for the day-to-day portfolio management of the Sound Point Fund will remain the same.
    If shareholders of the Sound Point Fund approve the Reorganization, the Reorganization is expected to take effect on or about December 11, 2015. At that time, the Investor Class and Institutional Class shares of the Sound Point Fund that you currently own would, in effect, be exchanged on a tax-free basis for, respectively, SP Class shares and Institutional Class shares of the American Beacon Fund with an aggregate value equal to the aggregate value of your Sound Point Fund shares.
    In the next few weeks, Sound Point Fund shareholders of record will receive a proxy statement/prospectus that contains pertinent details regarding the upcoming Reorganization, including the Board’s reasons for approving the Reorganization. The proxy statement/prospectus will also provide shareholders an opportunity to vote on the proposed Reorganization.
    PLEASE RETAIN THIS SUPPLEMENT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  • Portfolio Review
    Thanks to @Old_Skeet who I believe first mentioned this website:
    funds-newsletter.com/
    I receive free updates through email and October's updates just hit my inbox so I thought I'd share it with members with the hopes that others could share some of their portfolio challenges as well as some of your successes.
    I try to track my portfolio by personally creating a spreadsheet using MS Excel. I import data from places like Yahoo Finance (daily price changes) as well as from my brokerage houses where I can update share transactions (buys, sells, exchanges, dividend re-investments, etc.) to my spreadsheet. Almost as infrequently as I floss, I attempt to run an analysis of my overall portfolio through M* Portfolio Manager. This tool is available through my brokerage house (TR Price) for free. Having a single spreadsheet helps update all of this more easily as well as pool together lots of accounts into one place. The hope is to be able to identify the good, the bad, and hopefully to improve the ugly.
    YTD my portfolio experienced losses in the months of May - Sept (totaling about -6.5%). Gains in others months offset those losses leaving my portfolio where it started in January of 2015. From the perspective of my portfolio experiencing losses from new highs I sit about 4% away from that new high mark which was set in May of 2015. All hell broke loose as the S&P tried climbing above 2130.
    I try to reference portfolio highs and lows on a monthly basis. Portfolio lows are a good representation of the negative side of volatility (risk) and for me a more realistic view of my portfolio's overall success. As a rule, I try to discipline myself to consider new highs as an opportunity to raise cash. A harder discipline to follow for me is during periods of negative volatility. Negative volatility is the precise time to put cash to work yet it emotionally doesn't feel that way. This is always a work in progress for most investors.
    This process is an attempt to get rid of some of the emotional decision making I face by establishing actionable rules. I'm not there yet, but I thought my journey worth sharing.
  • Forward Global Dividend Fund to liquidate
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/889188/000119312515341955/d35003d497.htm
    497 1 d35003d497.htm 497 FOR FORWARD FUNDS
    FORWARD FUNDS
    Supplement dated October 13, 2015
    to the
    Summary Prospectus for Investor Class and Institutional Class Shares of the Forward Global Dividend Fund,
    Summary Prospectus for Class A and Class C Shares of the Forward Global Dividend Fund,
    Forward Funds Investor Class and Institutional Class Prospectus, Forward Funds Class A, Class B,
    Class C and Advisor Class Prospectus, and Forward Funds Statement of Additional Information
    each dated May 1, 2015, as supplemented
    NOTICE OF LIQUIDATION OF FORWARD GLOBAL DIVIDEND FUND
    On September 22, 2015, the Board of Trustees of Forward Funds (the “Trust”), including all of the Trustees who are not “interested persons” of the Trust (as that term is defined in the Investment Company Act of 1940, as amended), approved the liquidation of the Forward Global Dividend Fund (the “Fund”), a series of the Trust. The Fund will be liquidated pursuant to a Board-approved Plan of Liquidation on or around November 17, 2015 (the “Liquidation Date”). On the Liquidation Date, the Fund will distribute pro rata to its respective shareholders of record all of the assets of the Fund in complete cancellation and redemption of all of the outstanding shares of beneficial interest, except for cash, bank deposits or cash equivalents in an estimated amount necessary to (i) discharge any unpaid liabilities and obligations of the Fund on the Fund’s books on the Liquidation Date, including, but not limited to, income dividends and capital gains distributions, if any, payable through the Liquidation Date, and (ii) pay such contingent liabilities as the officers of the Trust deem appropriate.
    IN LIGHT OF THE PLANNED LIQUIDATION, SHARES OF THE FORWARD GLOBAL DIVIDEND FUND WILL NO LONGER BE OFFERED TO NEW INVESTORS OR EXISTING INVESTORS (EXCEPT THROUGH REINVESTED DIVIDENDS) OR BE AVAILABLE FOR EXCHANGES FROM OTHER FUNDS OF THE TRUST.
    ****
    PLEASE KEEP THIS SUPPLEMENT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE
    SUPP GLB DIV LIQ 10132015
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    Hi @Dex,
    In the cash area of my portfolio, which includes money held in currency and on deposit at two banks, I currently have enough cash to live off of for more than three years at my current spending rate should all other forms of income I receive (social security, a small pension and from investments) come to a halt. If I sold out of the markets today, I anticipate I'd have better than twenty years of worth of cash on hand at my current spending rate. Seems, I recall Ted chose to go to mostly to an all cash position this past summer. For me, being age 67 and my wife age 65 I think I am going to stay invested in the capital markets for many years to come. Should my portfolio return what I have projected over the next ten years, as detailed in another blurb and noted below, the returns will most likely be enough to support my lifestyle without a cash drawdown.
    For easy reference, below is my post regarding my anticipated portfolio's return. It reads as follows ...
    "Hi @MJG,
    Thanks for posting your forecast of six percent average annual gain for stocks over the next ten years. Wonder what bonds are going to do? And, then there is cash?
    Here is my thinking ... Like you say, I'll use six per cent for stocks, (my call) four percent for bonds and two percent for cash. With this and based upon my current asset allocation of 25% cash, 20% bonds and 55% stocks (which includes the 5% other assets as defined by M* within my portfolio) I can expect between a four to five percent annualized return over the next ten years on my portfolio. Sounds reasonable to me.
    So, if I want to make more I will need to continue to employ some spiffs (special investment positions) from time-to-time as I have been doing in this low interest rate environment. Doing this, might add a percent or two. Or, I could take on more risk and raise my allocation to stocks and bonds while lowering my allocation to cash. Think I'll continue to play the spiffs and tweak my asset allocation form time-to-time as to how I am reading the markets. In doing a look back, Morningstar's Portfolio Manager indicates that my current fund possitions have a combinded returned for the past five years of about 8.5% and for the ten year period about 6.5%. With this, some adjustment (downward) would needed to be made to account for my cash position in use with the above percentages. So, let's knock a percent off of these percentages to derive at what the portfolio would have returned adjusting it for current cash held. Probally, not exact but close.
    Currently, I think from a TTM P/E Ratio (21.5) stocks are more than fully valued along with most bonds. With this, I am going to stick with being cash heavy for the time being and employ the spiffs.
    Thanks again for posting your insight. It is appreciated."
    Best regards,
    Old_Skeet
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    I want to jump in before this thread gets too large. http://www.capgainsvalet.com/ is out of hibernation! It's early in the season, but I expect to have 185+ fund families available for searching as well as some thoughts on various capital gains distributions strategies that may leave more dollars in your pockets.
    I value the input of MFO readers. Please let me know if you have any recommendations to make the site better.
  • What do folks here make of the First Eagle acquisition ?
    @rjb112 Yes sir, that'll do it for controlling interest; whether 80, 65, or 50.1%. Thanks.
    @Shostakovich I dunno. We've certainly seen this before and, soon or later, it seems to not work out so well for MF shareholders, about ...what...half the time? "Blackstone and Corsair Capital’s investment also ensures that First Eagle will continue to operate independently. It will maintain its investment-centric culture." "John Arnhold, Chairman and CIO of First Eagle, said the founding family is pleased with the investment because it provides long-term stability to the firm and its clients." The usual questions arise: how so? and, was that somewhat in doubt before and nothing was said?
    @scott So, does that make you, in a sense, Shostakovich's overlord? :)
  • What do folks here make of the First Eagle acquisition ?
    Did they buy the whole enchilada? I thought they only bought a 20% stake in First Eagle. That would be similar to Oaktree's ~20% stake in DoubleLine (which has been quite lucrative for them).
    http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/07/blackstone-corsair-capital-acquire-majority-stake-in-first-eagle/
    Blackstone, Corsair Capital Acquire Majority Stake in First Eagle
    Posted By: Marie Cabural Posted date: July 21, 2015
  • AllianzGI Global Managed Volatility Fund to liquidate
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1423227/000119312515341145/d45141d497.htm
    497 1 d45141d497.htm ALLIANZ FUNDS MULTI-STRATEGY TRUST
    Filed pursuant to Rule 497(e)
    File Nos. 333-148624 and 811-22167
    ALLIANZ FUNDS MULTI-STRATEGY TRUST
    Supplement Dated October 9, 2015 to the
    Statutory Prospectus for Class A, Class B, Class C, Class R, Class R6,
    Institutional Class, Class P, Administrative Class and Class D Shares of
    Allianz Funds Multi-Strategy Trust,
    Dated April 1, 2015 (as supplemented thereafter)
    Disclosure Relating to AllianzGI Global Managed Volatility Fund (for purposes of this section only, the “Fund”)
    Liquidation of the Fund
    Effective on or about December 11, 2015 (the “Liquidation Date”), the Fund will be liquidated and dissolved. Any shares of the Fund outstanding on the Liquidation Date will be automatically redeemed on the Liquidation Date. The proceeds of any such redemption will be equal to the net asset value of such shares after dividend distributions required to eliminate any Fund-level taxes are made and the expenses and liabilities of the Fund have been paid or otherwise provided for. Allianz Global Investors Distributors LLC, the Fund’s distributor (the “Distributor”), will waive contingent deferred sales charges applicable to redemptions beginning five (5) business days prior to the Liquidation Date, including such Liquidation Date.
    At any time prior to the Liquidation Date, shareholders may redeem their shares of the Fund and receive the net asset value thereof, pursuant to the procedures set forth under “How to Buy and Sell Shares” in the Prospectus. Shareholders may also exchange their shares of the Fund for shares of the same class of any other series of Allianz Funds Multi-Strategy Trust (the “Trust”) or Allianz Funds that offers that class, as described under “How to Buy and Sell Shares—Exchanging Shares” in the Prospectus. Such exchanges will be taxable transactions for shareholders who hold shares in taxable accounts.
    Redemptions on the Liquidation Date will generally be treated like any other redemption of shares and may result in a gain or loss for U.S. federal income tax purposes. Any gain or loss will be a capital gain or loss for shareholders who hold their shares as capital assets. Capital gains or losses will be short- or long-term depending on how long a shareholder has held his or her Fund shares. Shareholders should consult their own tax advisors regarding their particular situation and the possible application of state, local or non-U.S. tax laws.
    Restrictions on New Purchases and Exchanges for Shares of the Fund
    The Board of Trustees (“Board”) of the Trust has imposed the following restrictions on new purchases of, and exchanges for, shares of the Fund:
    Effective as of the close of business on December 4, 2015, shares of the Fund will no longer be available for purchase by current or new investors in the Fund, other than through the automatic reinvestment of distributions by current shareholders, and shareholders of other series of the Trust and shareholders of series of Allianz Funds will no longer be permitted to exchange any of their shares for shares of the Fund, as described in the Prospectus under “How to Buy and Sell Shares—Exchanging Shares.”
    The Board and the Distributor each reserves the right at any time to modify or eliminate the terms described above, including on a case-by-case basis.
    Disclosure Relating to AllianzGI Global Allocation Fund (for purposes of this section only, the “Fund”)
    On October 8, 2015, the Board of the Trust approved the elimination of all Class B shares of the Fund, to be accomplished through the accelerated conversion of Class B shares into Class A shares of the Fund (the “Class B Conversion”). Class B shares have not been available for purchase since November 1, 2009, other than through the reinvestment of distributions by current Class B shareholders.
    The Class B Conversion will be effected on the basis of the relative net asset values of the Class B and Class A shares involved and, following the conversion, the Fund will cease to have any Class B shares authorized or outstanding. The Class B Conversion will take place pursuant to the Tenth Amended and Restated Multi-Class Plan of the Trust, which was approved by the Board at its October 8, 2015 meeting, and is expected to be completed in the fourth quarter of 2015. After the Class B Conversion, the Fund will cease to offer Class B shares.
    Please retain this Supplement for future reference.
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    Yeah, lots of the active equity mutual funds at Vanguard show cap gains hits (eg., VGENX). But the related index mutual funds (eg., VENAX) do not. Nor do the ETFs with same share class (eg., VDE). Presumably this benefit is because of the concept of in-kind exchange.
    But as these indices become more sophisticated and tailored, they are essentially becoming a formulated "active" trade...but without the cap gain penalty.
    If this advantage is bankable, got to believe it increases favor of ETFs. 'Cause, nobody likes paying cap gains, especially on down years.
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    Hi Mona. Right, I used the 2014 distributions to show that equity ETFs don't seem to pay cap gains. In case of Vanguard, some of their ETFs are actually share classes of the mutual funds, so portfolio is essentially same (eg., VHT and VCVLX). Now, perhaps it's just because these mutual funds and ETFs are index funds. But, I believe the active EtF folks are touting they enjoy capital gain advantages that traditional mutual funds do not.
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    Only bond ETFs, which are hard to get around. No cap gains on any of the equity ETFs, looks like, even though some are literally another share class of their mutual funds. Correct?
    Charles,
    To my understanding, Vanguard has not announced any of their 2015 year-end capital gains distributions yet.
    Mona
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    Only bond ETFs, which are hard to get around. No cap gains on any of the equity ETFs, looks like, even though some are literally another share class of their mutual funds. Correct?
  • 2015 Capital gains distribution estimates
    No Capital Gains on the ETFs!
    It looks like they've just rolled this page forward for 2015... the link you have shows Q3 2015 distributions. Actually, Vanguard paid out on a number of their ETFs last year (see the bottom of the page for the estimates here: https://personal.vanguard.com/us/insights/article/update-prelimcapgains-112014).
    They've even already paid out on one of their ETFs (BND) in 2015! See the April distribution for the Total Bond Market fund.
    https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0928&FundIntExt=INT#tab=4