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Can you show me the quotes where you included the word 'illegal' when refering to my quotes? I don't see any. Thanks
They are all above this discussion. I'm not going to quote you every one if you are too lazy to actually read what people are saying before you sound off about it.
Can you show me the quotes where you included the word 'illegal' when refering to my quotes? I don't see any. Thanks
They are all above this discussion. I'm not going to quote you every one if you are too lazy to actually read what people are saying before you sound off about it.
@DanHardy At this point I'm going to have to assume you're either lying, can't read or just willfully trying to irritate me. I'm going with the latter:
LewisBraham January 31 Flag @Dan You're right-Author Barry Glassner of the book you cite has exposed a lot of America's irrational fears. Among them, the fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims:
LewisBraham 11:04AM edited 11:12AM Flag Post-materialism is a euphemism for another euphemism--identity politics. The elite right-wing strategy has always been divide and conquer over race since Bacon's Rebellion in 1676 made the elites worry about a class uprising. Click here:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon's_Rebellion In the 19th century and the early 20th this strategy belonged to the Democrats and the Republicans were the liberals. Post LBJ it's the Republican "Southern Strategy." Click here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy But I suspect DanHardy knows this already and is just bringing up the 19th century Democrats to win an argument by any means necessary. He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims is irrational here and yet in other threads claims they are a threat. So which is the truth? Or does it even matter?
LewisBraham 12:07PM edited 12:08PM Flag No Dan, you got my quote wrong. I said: "He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims is irrational here and yet in other threads claims they are a threat." Illegal immigrants is a less offensive term for the "aliens" you use. And it is precisely this irrational fear of "illegals" that Glassner, your hero, is writing about.
LewisBraham 12:07PM edited 12:08PM Flag No Dan, you got my quote wrong. I said: "He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims is irrational here and yet in other threads claims they are a threat." Illegal immigrants is a less offensive term for the "aliens" you use. And it is precisely this irrational fear of "illegals" that Glassner, your hero, is writing about.
@DanHardy, Fine, I'll admit I can't find any remark from you about Muslims if you admit that you have made comments about illegal immigrants and that while you are busy telling Crash "to stop living in fear" because of Glassner's work you need to stop living in fear of "illegal aliens" as Glassner thinks that fear is irrational too. Fear of illegal immigrants is all just a bunch of right-wing media hype or "fake news" as you're fond of saying.
I just took out the words "and Muslims" in the sentence "He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims..." in my original post as you're right about that. Now you can work on your irrational fears of illegal immigrants.
@DanHardy, Fine, I'll admit I can't find any remark from you about Muslims if you admit that you have made comments about illegal immigrants and that while you are busy telling Crash "to stop living in fear" because of Glassner's work you need to stop living in fear of "illegal aliens" as Glassner thinks that fear is irrational too. Fear of illegal immigrants is all just a bunch of right-wing media hype or "fake news" as you're fond of saying.
I just took out the words "and Muslims" in the sentence "He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims..." in my original post as you're right about that. Now you can work on your irrational fears of illegal immigrants.
I accept your apology for the Muslims comment you made.
Now please find where I wrote 'I or you should fear illegal aliens.' If you can not find it I would also accept your apology for that. Also, please do not take it out of context. I believe you are better than that.
@DanHardy It's been pointed out already that your arguments that illegal immigrants "bring down wages and take jobs" Americans want as opposed to jobs Americans don't want don't hold water. It is precisely those irrational fears used to stoke the hate. Stop living in fear of foreigners, Dan. Just embrace your inner child.
@DanHardy It's been pointed out already that your arguments that illegal immigrants "bring down wages and take jobs" Americans want as opposed to jobs Americans don't want don't hold water. It is precisely those irrational fears used to stoke the hate. Stop living in fear of foreigners, Dan. Just embrace your inner child.
Lewis, I know you wish to partake in these discussions. However, we've spent most of the time trying to get you to clarify what you are trying to say, correcting your errors and your apologies. Let's end this here and agree in the future you will endeavor to clearly and concisely make your point. Thanks
@DanHardy I understand you're afraid and that facts bother you, Dan. I'm so sorry. Just remember the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
I'm sorry to say you even got the intent of that quote wrong.
" So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."
None of my comments fit into the above. Quite the opposite. I am have show my willingness to examine the facts and put forth my views - concisely and effectively.
@DanHardy I'm sorry you're so frightened. It will be OK. Just remember every time you think this when you hear about illegal immigrants, know that it is all an irrational fake-news induced fear and that your hero Barry Glassner would tell you to take a deep breath and move on with your life. It will be OK, Dan. Do you need a hug?
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LewisBraham
January 31 Flag
@Dan You're right-Author Barry Glassner of the book you cite has exposed a lot of America's irrational fears. Among them, the fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims:
https://lclark.edu/live/news/34757-our-commitment-to-support-students-regardless-of
http://nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/12/15/are-americans-fears-legitimate/fear-has-always-been-a-marketing-tool-in-the-us
LewisBraham
11:04AM edited 11:12AM Flag
Post-materialism is a euphemism for another euphemism--identity politics. The elite right-wing strategy has always been divide and conquer over race since Bacon's Rebellion in 1676 made the elites worry about a class uprising. Click here:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon's_Rebellion
In the 19th century and the early 20th this strategy belonged to the Democrats and the Republicans were the liberals. Post LBJ it's the Republican "Southern Strategy." Click here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
But I suspect DanHardy knows this already and is just bringing up the 19th century Democrats to win an argument by any means necessary. He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims is irrational here and yet in other threads claims they are a threat. So which is the truth? Or does it even matter?
LewisBraham
12:07PM edited 12:08PM Flag
No Dan, you got my quote wrong. I said: "He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims is irrational here and yet in other threads claims they are a threat." Illegal immigrants is a less offensive term for the "aliens" you use. And it is precisely this irrational fear of "illegals" that Glassner, your hero, is writing about.
I just took out the words "and Muslims" in the sentence "He acknowledges that fear of illegal immigrants and Muslims..." in my original post as you're right about that. Now you can work on your irrational fears of illegal immigrants.
Now please find where I wrote 'I or you should fear illegal aliens.' If you can not find it I would also accept your apology for that. Also, please do not take it out of context. I believe you are better than that.
I know you wish to partake in these discussions. However, we've spent most of the time trying to get you to clarify what you are trying to say, correcting your errors and your apologies.
Let's end this here and agree in the future you will endeavor to clearly and concisely make your point.
Thanks
" So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."
None of my comments fit into the above. Quite the opposite. I am have show my willingness to examine the facts and put forth my views - concisely and effectively.
know that it is all an irrational fake-news induced fear and that your hero Barry Glassner would tell you to take a deep breath and move on with your life. It will be OK, Dan. Do you need a hug?