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What were your "UP" funds today on a largely "down" day?

beebee
edited August 2013 in Fund Discussions
Wondering if there might be some shifting trends we might identify. Some of my longer term underperformers did well today.

My only "UP" funds today:
PRIDX, VWO...Emerging Markets
BUFOX...Micro Cap (Tech heavy)
USAGX, VGPMX...Miners and Materials
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  • Dear Bee: Had a clean sweep,SPY, IHJ, PFF, PRHSX, PONCX all funds down today !
    Regards,
    Ted
  • edited August 2013
    Hey Bee,

    How long you have been holding material and miners funds ?
    I have been thinking about them but have not bought them yet.

    I used to be much more conservative investor before based on my bad experiences in 2000-02 period (the time, I came to US and started investing). Entered the market right at the top in March 2000, a month before it crashed.

    Slowly becoming bold enough to invest in risky areas (ex. WAFMX) a bit nowadays.
  • edited August 2013
    My UP funds are

    PCRIX
    PSPFX
    ARIVX
    GPGOX
    WAFMX
    ARTGX
  • edited August 2013
    ARTGX and WAFMX, in equity. Most of the small remaining amount of bond stuff broke even, though. Portfolio -0.2% vs S&P -0.5%... on the right side of that deal, anyways.
  • beebee
    edited August 2013
    Reply to @mrc70:
    Hi mrc70,
    VGPMX is a long term hold that I recently added to...not treating me too well over the last 1-2 year time frame. I opportunisticly own USAGX. I find that I have to keep this fund on a short leash. Glad to see some funds are working positively for you today.

    Nice to know that funds mentioned here at MFO shined on not so shiny day.
  • I don't know what 1 day performance indicates but here it goes.

    GPIOX
    OBIOX
    GPGOX
    ARTKX
    BCSIX

    Most likely tomorrow these will be down...
  • Reply to @Investor: Just for fun, nothing more.
  • beebee
    edited August 2013
    Reply to @Investor:
    The long term performance of my list of funds have been pretty dismal...banged up and beaten down...nice to see some upward movement with these funds on an overall down day.

    My thought for this thread was less about one day performance and more about a potential shift in trends.
  • ARTKX and WAFMX, and a Blackrock version of a U.S. bond index fund (!) in the 401k.

    Europe's got the greatest momentum in the Invest w/an Edge weekly report, and EMs are starting to pick up a bit too.
  • edited August 2013
    Portf. down for the day by 0.13%. Everything down, but no change in just two: SFGIX and DLFNX.

    The losers:
    PREMX EM bonds
    MAPOX balanced, US Large-cap and some bonds.
    MSCFX US small-cap
    MACSX Asia ex-Japan
    MAPIX Diversified Asia
    MAINX Asia bonds
    TRAMX Africa/Middle East
  • Reply to @Ted: It was unchanged, but does your post above mean you no longer hold PBDCX. Thanks.
  • Few Alt funds, that I watch, that were up today:
    WBLSX +0.19%
    WBMAX +0.48%
    BPLEX +0.60%
    RGHVX +0.24%
    ASANX +0.20%
    AQRNX +0.09%
  • For 3 accounts.

    IVWIX
    OARIX
    ARTGX
    BUFOX
    WAFMX
    GPGOX
    NEWFX
    DREGX

    Art
  • Reply to @Junkster: Sorry, I forgot PBDCX
    Regards,
    Tede
  • ARYVX was up a penny today. 0.09%
  • edited February 2014
    Today: Mon. 2/3/2014

    Markets:
    Dow -2.08%
    S&P 500 -2.28%
    Nasdaq -2.61%
    Russell 2000 -3.21%
    10 yr. bond -3.26%
    Gold -0.28%
    EFA -2.04%
    EEM -2.83

    VIX +16.46%

    Alternative ETFs/Mutual Funds:
    Global X Guru Index ETF GURU -2.92%
    Barclays S&P 500 Dynamic VEQTOR ETN VQT +0.01%
    TFS Market Neutral TFSMX -0.40
    Whitebox Long Short Equity Investor WBLSX -0.09%
    Whitebox Tactical Opportunities Investor WBMAX +0.32%
    ASTON/River Road Long-Short N ARLSX -0.70%
    BlackRock Global Long/Short Equity Inv A BDMAX -0.25%
    LS Opportunity LSOFX -1.34%
    PIMCO EqS® Long/Short D PMHDX -1.27%
    MainStay Marketfield I MFLDX -1.47%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Equity Inv BPLEX +0.48%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Rsrch Inv BPRRX -1.00%
    RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Retail RLSFX -1.29%
    RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Retail RGHVX -1.94%
    AQR Multi-Strategy Alternative N ASANX -0.73%
    AQR Diversified Arbitrage N ADANX 0.00%
    AQR Risk Parity N AQRNX -0.07 -0.66%

    BPLEX and both Whitebox funds did quite well on this very "down" day.

    Any other funds that performed well today?
  • edited February 2014
    EM bond unch.
    Two others down slightly, including Gundlach's "core" bond fund. DLFNX. (Edited: checked later, when the Gundlach crowd and the Morningstar crowd got around to posting the day's results. DLFNX up .03 cents.)
    Equities: bloodbath.
  • edited February 2014
    Some other notables:

    COBYX
    DODIX
    DBLTX
    PTTRX
    PAUIX
    FOCIX
    RNSIX
  • EEV +5.37%, the only holding currently in my play money portfolio but then compared to the downdraft in the core portfolio, this upside is in the noise.
  • Reply to @cman: Ha! That's not a fund, it's a trade! (But congrats, nonetheless.)
  • Reply to @Charles: Pot-ay-to, pot-ah-to.:-) It is up 20%+ since I bought it so keeping tight stop limits. But you are right in the sense that these funds are not for core portfolios. I think the ride up in levered funds once this downdraft is over will be more interesting and better opportunity to exploit on the long side. The toughest thing to do is not do anything in these kinds of movements.
  • ARIVX performed well compared to its peers. But this is expected given its large cash position.
  • MFMIX was my only equity gainer Monday.
  • Reply to @BenWP:
    I also noticed that few Frontier funds, including MFMIX, WAFMX, HSFAX, HLMOX, did quite well (relatively). But how does one get into MFMIX (Institutional class) without investing $5 M? One can invest in MFMPX (class A) with lower initial investment, but it has much higher expense ratio and has a front load (the front load is waived at Schwab).
  • Another down day today 3/13/2014:

    Markets:
    Dow -1.41%
    Nasdaq -1.46%
    S&P -1.19%
    Russell 2000 -1.23%
    EFA -1.86%
    EEM -1.80%
    GLD +0.34%
    GDX +2.64%
    AGG +0.26%

    Alternative Funds:
    TFS Market Neutral TFSMX -0.34%
    TFS Hedged Futures TFSHX 0.00%
    Whitebox Market Neutral Equity Investor WBLSX -0.36%
    Whitebox Tactical Opportunities Investor WBMAX 0.00%
    ASTON/River Road Long-Short N ARLSX -0.78%
    BlackRock Global Long/Short Equity Inv A BDMAX +0.09%
    LS Opportunity LSOFX -0.85%
    PIMCO EqS Long/Short D PMHDX -0.65%
    MainStay Marketfield I MFLDX -0.92%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Equity Inv BPLEX +0.43%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Rsrch Inv BPRRX -0.42%
    RiverPark Structural Alpha Retail RSAFX -0.29%
    RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Retail RLSFX -1.36%
    RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Retail RGHVX -0.74%
    AQR Multi-Strategy Alternative N ASANX +0.52%
    AQR Diversified Arbitrage N ADANX +0.09%
    AQR Risk Parity N AQRNX +0.09%
  • ACCNX up 0.19%. Everything else was down.
  • WHIYX +.11%
    VWAHX +.18%
    RYPMX +2.57%
    VWEHX 0%
  • 13 March, 2013: My only "up" funds were bonds: DLFNX and PREMX. My MAINX was down by a penny.
  • Better question might be, which stock funds are up at over 1% YTD?
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