Tipping Point?

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• Mark

  11:07AM

  Right now one can only hope. There are still plenty of fools towing the party line. Apparently murdering someone by shooting them in the back 9-10X while they are lying on the ground isn't enough proof that a change needs to come.
• a2z

  12:00PM

  
  sadly no.
  10s of millions of MAGA support trump though any crime\disaster. trump has dismissed all their concerns save for entertainment value, and doesnt need them until prison may again be a real threat.
  
  each blue state is on its own. corporate america (e.g., minnesota HQed) is silent\neutral.
  
  worst of all, the gop has funded too many project2025 type initiatives to be retrieved before 2028.
• DrVenture

  1:58PM

  If the "tipping point" is defined as driving away any swing voters that would enable GOP candidates, I would guess "yes", we have passed that point. Of course, die-hard maga will remain maga. Of course, policy reversals will be time-consuming.
  
  But, would trump win a POTUS election if it were held tomorrow? Highly unlikely IMO. And highly unlikely that he can change that dynamic by mid-terms. I suspect that more economic hardship is percolating and will continue to surface.
• hank

  2:48PM edited 2:56PM

  I've resumed watching West Wing (OK - a decade or two behind most of you). Just started Season 2 which can be bought for $24.95 on Prime. One thing I had not fully appreciated is the intense attention the Prez and much of his staff pay to the polls. Incredible focus on them daily and how to affect them in a favorable manner by virtually every action or word of mouth. To some extent that's in play here. I'm trying to stay out of the gutter. I bemoan the terrible loss of two innocent lives in the tragedy playing out in Minneapolis. Holman talks a good game. Better than the dude who left town. But Homan's credibility? Highly questionable.
• Old_Joe

  3:28PM edited 3:36PM

  For me "polls" is a very interesting subject. I also have been mentally comparing the present situation to the "West Wing" treatment, because it's been my impression that this current bunch is so focused on their attempts to fully accomplish their own and the "Project 2025" objectives that virtually none of Trump's "lieutenants" care in the slightest about polls or the public reaction. RFK, Bessent, Lutnick, Homan, Patel, Vought, or especially Miller, Hegseth, Bondi, and Noem frequently just shoot off their mouths first and don't even care about the public perception of their verbal dung.
  
  Definitely not true of the head rodent though... the coverage of the television establishment is just about ALL that he cares about.
  
  They all would have lasted about one episode in "The West Wing".
  
  One very major difference in comparing the two operating environments, though: in "The West Wing" the president has the normal "checks and balances" of a reasonably strong opposition party in Congress, and a reasonably balanced Supreme Court. The current rodent has absolutely no viable major opposition.
• hank

  4:56PM

  Yep. Thanks for long ago recommending the series. Pretty awesome. What a strong cast!
• Old_Joe

  5:51PM edited 5:53PM

  Yes, and that's also interesting. My wife has always had a strong interest in the stage and it's performers- me, not so much, with the exception of opera performances and stage musicals. San Francisco is so fortunate to have a first-rate opera company, Gilbert and Sullivan company, and symphony orchestra.
  
  But in my older years with more available time I've come to admire some of the older television productions. I especially admire many of the technical aspects as well as the actors- by "technical" I don't mean the computer generated explosions and such, but the actual camerawork and directing. For example, the camera work in establishing the ambiance in the French production of the Jules Maigret detective series with Bruno Cremer is just fascinating and lovely. I've watched that entire series several times just to immerse myself in the atmosphere, even though the plot is already well known. No explosions or car chases, and very little gunplay.
  
  This has led me to do a little reading of books authored by actors in a few series. And one thing there comes through loud and clear- the great admiration that actors have for each other, the profession itself, and for the huge number of supporting crafts, technicians, and people who make the whole thing work. And one other thing that I've noticed: the respect and admiration that so many actors have for other actors who have come from the stage background. That made a real impression, because many of the specific stage actors that were mentioned were also some of my favorite performance characters in the TV work.
  
  No wonder you enjoy this stuff so much.