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Tipping Point?

Observant1
edited 2:29PM in Off-Topic
The reckless Minneapolis killings perpetrated by ICE and Border Patrol have angered many people.
Several congressional Republicans have even spoken out publicly against these incidents!
I previously mentioned that I believed the Trump administration would go too far and the country
would then reach a tipping point.
Are we approaching the tipping point now?

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/americas-tipping-point

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  • MarkMark
    Right now one can only hope. There are still plenty of fools towing the party line. Apparently murdering someone by shooting them in the back 9-10X while they are lying on the ground isn't enough proof that a change needs to come.
  • a2z

    sadly no.
    10s of millions of MAGA support trump though any crime\disaster. trump has dismissed all their concerns save for entertainment value, and doesnt need them until prison may again be a real threat.

    each blue state is on its own. corporate america (e.g., minnesota HQed) is silent\neutral.

    worst of all, the gop has funded too many project2025 type initiatives to be retrieved before 2028.
  • DrVenture
    If the "tipping point" is defined as driving away any swing voters that would enable GOP candidates, I would guess "yes", we have passed that point. Of course, die-hard maga will remain maga. Of course, policy reversals will be time-consuming.

    But, would trump win a POTUS election if it were held tomorrow? Highly unlikely IMO. And highly unlikely that he can change that dynamic by mid-terms. I suspect that more economic hardship is percolating and will continue to surface.
  • hank
    edited 2:56PM
    I've resumed watching West Wing (OK - a decade or two behind most of you). Just started Season 2 which can be bought for $24.95 on Prime. One thing I had not fully appreciated is the intense attention the Prez and much of his staff pay to the polls. Incredible focus on them daily and how to affect them in a favorable manner by virtually every action or word of mouth. To some extent that's in play here. I'm trying to stay out of the gutter. I bemoan the terrible loss of two innocent lives in the tragedy playing out in Minneapolis. Holman talks a good game. Better than the dude who left town. But Homan's credibility? Highly questionable.
  • Old_JoeOld_Joe
    edited 3:36PM
    For me "polls" is a very interesting subject. I also have been mentally comparing the present situation to the "West Wing" treatment, because it's been my impression that this current bunch is so focused on their attempts to fully accomplish their own and the "Project 2025" objectives that virtually none of Trump's "lieutenants" care in the slightest about polls or the public reaction. RFK, Bessent, Lutnick, Homan, Patel, Vought, or especially Miller, Hegseth, Bondi, and Noem frequently just shoot off their mouths first and don't even care about the public perception of their verbal dung.

    Definitely not true of the head rodent though... the coverage of the television establishment is just about ALL that he cares about.

    They all would have lasted about one episode in "The West Wing".

    One very major difference in comparing the two operating environments, though: in "The West Wing" the president has the normal "checks and balances" of a reasonably strong opposition party in Congress, and a reasonably balanced Supreme Court. The current rodent has absolutely no viable major opposition.
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