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WBALX is wife's T-IRA. Lagging.
https://www.morningstar.com/funds/XNAS/WBALX/quote
Anyone else have experience with CGBL? Happy with it? Looks attractive. yes, it would be a bump up from conserv to moderate allocation, and from oef to etf.
https://www.morningstar.com/etfs/arcx/cgbl/quote

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  • You might try comparing it to ABALX which is an OEF offered by the Capital Group
  • edited December 7
    I agree with Mark.
    Three CGBL portfolio managers (out of five) are also managers of ABALX¹.
    Both funds have very similar objectives and characteristics.
    Looking at the funds' quarterly Fact Sheets may be a good place to start.

    CGBL Fact Sheet
    ABALX Fact Sheet



    ¹ I own RLBGX in my Health Savings Account and appreciate the fund's historical risk/reward performance.
  • Thank you for filing in the color @Observant1. I'm only familiar with CGDV.
  • edited December 7
    abalx= 'redemptions only,' per schwab. ... seems to put it out of my reach. i do see that cgbl is concentrated into its top 10 holdings. but its top ten's top 2 are in bonds, not stocks.
    i am leaning into cgbl, thanks to you guys. i also see rlbgx is available 'to trust company clients only.' so, it sounds unobtainable for me.
  • When we were in our accumulation phase we held ABALX among other American Funds (Capitol Group) for many years. It did well for our needs. As a general rule I found American Funds to have better equity performance than bond performance, but ABALX was pretty good.
  • thnx, oj.
  • @Crash and @Old_Joe
    ABALX has a front load of 5.75%. For American Funds, does this indicate that this share class is for use only with an advisor?
  • At that time almost all of our investment money was with American Funds. They had various loads depending upon the total amount a customer had with them, and they combined the value of our two IRA accounts with our taxable trust account to determine the load. For the greater period of our time with American we paid no load on any fund.

    We did have an advisor, who was also very helpful in many ways other than American Funds. He let me run things myself, and I would only bother him if I had any questions.
  • catch22 said:

    @Crash and @Old_Joe
    ABALX has a front load of 5.75%. For American Funds, does this indicate that this share class is for use only with an advisor?

    Hello.
    i really don't know the answer to that. perhaps that's why that note appeared at schwab regarding availability.
  • edited December 8
    catch22 said:

    @Crash and @Old_Joe
    ABALX has a front load of 5.75%. For American Funds, does this indicate that this share class is for use only with an advisor?

    Fidelity doesn't waive the front-end load for ABALX.
    Fido does offer BALFX sans load with an expense ratio of 0.62% compared to 0.57% for ABALX.
    The same situation exists at Schwab.
    Class A fund shares are sometimes available load-waived at various brokerages.
  • The R-class of American funds have the lowest ER, no front load and 12-b-1 fee. Unfortunately they are only available in 401k) and 403(b) plan without advisors, and not at brokerages.

    This year CGBL leads the pack of moderate allocation ETFs. Bear in mind that CGBLhas a higher stock allocation, 70%, and only 30% in bonds. Other funds in the same category such as VG Wellington and TRP Capital Appreciation have % allocation closer to 60/40 stocks/ bonds. The stock portion of CGBL has considerable overlap with CGDV that I invested in. Otherwise, it is the expensive American Balanced offering with ER 0.39%.
  • edited December 8
    +1. good info, i appreciate it. if i switch out of prfdx into prcfx that's a move from more risk to less. if i switch wife from conserv. wbalx to upper limit of moderate risk, it sort of washes out. not very scientific, i know... wanna switch out of the ones not serving their purpose. wife is much younger, anyhow.
  • You beat me to it, PRCFX. Having 40% stocks certain lower the risk profile.

    BTW, there is an ETF version of PRCFX being registered, and manage by Giroux and five other managers. That would be something to consider if that does not overlap too much with your PRWCX.
  • @Crash - I'm not sure if you've looked at all the funds you'd care to but maybe take a peek at FBALX (Fid. Bal. Fund) and/or FPURX (Fid. Puritan). They both have a similar risk profile to ABALX but come with higher total 10-yr returns and lower ER's. If you're just looking to buy at Schwab though that may be a non-starter.
  • @Mark Excellent suggestions for a 'younger' person who has time and can ride some market turns over the years.
    FBALX has maintained a high percentile ranking over many years for its category. FPURX is better yet !!!
    But, can those be purchased outside of Fido; at the vendor he would use? I know Fido funds can be purchased at other vendors, but I don't know how inclusive the list might be.
  • I recall a snag or two, after looking at some Fido funds, attempting to purchase at schwab, which is where i live now. thanks, though. and thnx, sven.
  • I buy a lot of Fidelity funds at Schwab. I would check if things have changed since your last check
  • I have never seen a Fidelity fund that was NTF at Schwab. In fact, FBALX and FPURX have a $74.95 TF.

    FWIW, CGBL is one of my larger holdings, pretty much since its inception. Also own CGDV. I like the Capital funds.

  • We owe much of our present financial independence to previous holdings of long-term Capital/American funds.
  • edited December 8
    @catch22 - well Crash does hype his much younger wife so you know...

    And I have nothing against the Capital Group whatsoever. I never bought them because my only option(s) were to pay the front end loads (self-employed and my boss was a cheapskate). I do hold quite a bit of CGDV.
  • nobody's jealous, right?
  • edited December 8
    Not me. If @Mark and I were financial planners; this information would be of special value for our/your investment planning. :)
  • That is why this board is so great so that everyone can learn from each other.
  • agreed. blue ribbons, all around. :)
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