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Morocco latest country to normalize ties with Israel in US-brokered deal

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Morocco has become the latest Arab League country to agree to normalise relations with Israel in a deal brokered with US help.

As part of the deal, the US has agreed to recognise Morocco's claim over the disputed Western Sahara region.

It is the subject of a dispute between Morocco and the Algeria-backed Polisario Front, which has been seeking to establish an independent state.

Morocco is the fourth state to make such a deal with Israel since August.

Agreements have also been struck recently with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Sudan.

Along with Egypt and Jordan, Morocco becomes the sixth Arab League member to normalise ties with Israel.

Another win for Trump.

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  • IMHO, this is a bigger win for Morocco.They've been seeking recognition of their Western Sahara claims for years, although it's unlikely the EU will join the US in recognition. The Moroccan-Polisario conflict has been ongoing since 1976. An independent SADR would be a client state of Algeria giving Algeria access to ports on the Atlantic Ocean.At this stage the fate of the Sahrawi people is unresolved, but I don't see how 100,000+ refugees spread across three jurisdictions is a viable long-term solution for anyone.

  • edited December 2020
    I don't pretend to understand all of the background of the Moroccan-Polisario conflict, but it would appear that Trump made yet another cynical trade-off: the future of the refugees and inhabitants of Western Sahara (nothing much in that for us) for the pretense of Morocco "recognizing" Israel. Morocco and Israel have been "unofficially" dealing with each other for years- this latest is nothing more than window-dressing for Trump.
  • +1 Old Joe Yes-I don't see Algeria,Tunisia,Syria, Oman or Saudi Arabia rushing to recognize Israel !
  • edited December 2020
    ...And, as ever, in all of those Mideast/Gulf deals, the Palestinians have been forsaken, thrown under the bus. Their own leadership needs to get their shit together. But the Israeli occupation and continued settlement is an abomination, after all these years. Hanan Ashrawi just recently RESIGNED from the Palestinian National Authority. She was long past due in doing that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanan_Ashrawi
  • Crash said:

    ...And, as ever, in all of those Mideast/Gulf deals, the Palestinians have been forsaken, thrown under the bus. Their own leadership needs to get their shit together. But the Israeli occupation and continued settlement is an abomination, after all these years. Hanan Ashrawi just recently RESIGNED from the Palestinian National Authority. She was long past due in doing that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanan_Ashrawi

    How about getting your facts. If Israel is made an occupation than the US occupation is much worse. Jews have been living in the area for thousands of years and Israel existed at that time too.
    The Palestinian made their own bed. They had several chances but didn't take it and continue with terrorism. It's much easier to be a terrorist than to run a country.
  • edited December 2020
    The US occupation occurred over two hundred years ago. This does not make it any more excusable, but at least it is not actively continuing in the present, and we now recognize it for what it was. Native Americans are free to live on their own reservations or anywhere else that they wish to. There are no walls to keep them in or out of anywhere.

    The Jewish treatment of the Palestinians and occupation of their territory is presently active. You are quick to condemn deplorable past actions of the United States, but have no problem in continuing to do exactly the same thing yourselves.

    You encroach upon and occupy any Palestinian area that seems attractive to you. You drive the Palestinian occupants of those areas into compounds which you make difficult to access or around which you build walls. You justify this by condemning the reactions of the Palestinians who have the temerity to object to this treatment.

    You constantly remind us of what was done to you in Europe, but have no problem doing some of those same things yourself. What our ancestors did is no excuse for what you are doing right now. Both are equally shameful.

  • edited December 2020
    Old_Joe,
    You conveniently forget what came first and how it started. Israel was founded in 1948, who started the war and the next one? Who wants to kill all the Jews(and Christians too) and still say it?
    The Palestinians and the settlers is and will be a problem. In the beginning, the Palestinians used to come and work in Israel, their education and services got better, they got autonomy but Palestinian terrorists had many explosions inside Israel and why the wall was erected and solved the problem.

    It's funny that Israel supposed to solve the Palestinian problem while other countries such as Egypt, Jordan and Syria and other Arab countries don't. Israel has been looking for peace for decades and signed it with several countries. The Palestinians were offered a pretty good deal, but they rejected it. The Palestinian leadership can't control the extreme while Israel can. So, instead of getting 90% of what they want, they get nothing and continue to suffer.
    But wait, Gaza is a good case to see what would happen if the Palestinians control it. It's now about 15 years since they have the control. They got billions in aid from the west, instead of investing in education, services, commerce, they build tunnels and sent thousands of rockets to Israel + other terror attacks. As I said already, it's easy to be a terrorist but much more difficult to run a country.
    Nothing new here in several Arab countries, most of the people are great but a small % of extreme rule the population and dictate their life. Some times, if you find a moderate leader with good intention he/she will get slaughtered.
    BTW, do you find many Israeli terrorist attack globally compare to Muslim?

    It's also very easy and safe to live in the US thousands of miles from any enemy and lecture others. Just several years ago, they shot hundreds of missiles from Gaza toward Israel. I want to know how the US would respond to similar attach from Mexico into Southern CA? Just a month ago they shot 2 missiles from Gaza close to Tel-Aviv(link), again, I like to see how you react when it happens to your family.

    It reminds of an American guy from M* that lives in France and used to post the same garbage. I told him that once an explosion will hit close to him, he will change his tune, and it happened and what do you know, he changed his mind.
  • edited December 2020
    @FD1000: Your narrative is facile, glib, and totally one-sided. You compress the long and troubled history of the Mid-East into a short Israeli perspective, and attempt to present this as "truth". Anyone with knowledge of this area is aware that almost every group involved has some degree of merit and justice to their claims, but also some degree of responsibility for perpetuating the inter-people aggression.

    Israel, under the present expansionist leadership, uses superior armament and force in two ways: to respond to attacks from other Mid-East entities, and to aggressively encroach upon and occupy any Palestinian area that seems attractive to it. In part, the attacks upon Israel are the direct result of this latter policy.

    None of you are the least bit interested in actually achieving a lasting and peaceful compromise. Most frequently whichever seat of power believes that it has the upper hand in any given situation will choose military aggression as it's first option.

    While it is true that Israel has been the target of many of these attacks and has justifiably responded, it is equally true that Israel has frequently used it's superior military force to create or inflame situations that eventually result in some of those attacks.

    You people deserve each other. A pox on all of you.
  • @Old_Joe The sad thing is it isn't even an "Israeli perspective" any more than Donald Trump's and the GOP's ideas on foreign policy are the singular American perspective. This is Bibi Netanyahu's and the Likud party's perspective. Many in Israel disagree with these policies, which aren't just bad for the Palestinians, but bad for Israel's long-term future and bad for the Jews globally as people who don't understand the situation confuse zionism and radical rightwing Zionism like the Likud's with Judaism overall.
  • @Old_Joe @LewisBraham saying it for me! Just another thought: I've visited Jordan, next-door. The King's wife, Queen Rania, is herself a Palestinian. Jordan has accepted as many Palestinians as it wants to, already. The decision not to accept any more is in order not to continue to leave Israel with an easy "out," effectively allowing the Israelis to depopulate the entire occupied region of Palestinians. The British promised Israel a homeland after the War, also the Arabs. Time after time, "talks" were undertaken. There was always a pretext about why Israel could not proceed. In the meantime: house demolitions, militarized checkpoints restricting freedom of movement. Jewish-Israeli freeways are built, but the people who are native to the land are forbidden to use them. The Apartheid Wall is a land-grab. Meanwhile, Israeli "settlers" destroy groves and orchards. Israelis provoke, Palestinians respond, and then the victims are blamed. @FD1000
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172963/
  • Yes, I agree with both of you.
  • edited December 2020
    I "love" opinions from people that never lived in the Middle East and don't understand the nuances, especially Americans who live in a huge country and so far from the enemy while Israel is a tiny country with just several millions surrounded by a billion Arabs and huge countries(link)
    But, let's see a big picture first without Israel. Any country is a democracy? Are these countries leaders treat their own citizens well? Are these countries have a great relationship with each other (think of all the wars among them)? that is a nutshell why Israel can't safely achieve real peace.
    There is no way a trust can be build when terror doesn't stop.
    Why several Arab countries now made peace with Israel? because of Israel and Trump strength.
    Why ISIS started? because of Obama's weakness.
    When Egypt and Israel made peace, Israel cleared the settlements. The Palestinians keep waiting and denying every offer. The more they wait, more settlements and Jews will increase, and it will get harder.

    The Middle East swamp is unsolvable between Israel and the Palestinian or without Israel until Islam will get more moderate and advanced. Actually, it's a global problem in India, Africa and now in Europe (wait and see, it's just the beginning) and could arrive to the US...wait, it already did in 9/11

    I know, you will deny it but hey, that's your choice and opinion.
  • edited December 2020
    I did live in the Middle East. Israel isn't a true democracy because of the law of return guaranteeing citizenship and voting rights to any person of Jewish descent, but not to other nationalities/religions, creating a two-tiered citizenship. It increasingly resembles a theocracy like many other Middle Eastern countries because of the Likud party's and the ultra-orthodox's encroachment on the West Bank and their asinine biblical claims to the region. The worst part of this travesty of justice is that the ultra-Orthodox claiming the settlements and inflaming the region don't have to serve in the military because of religious reasons while every other Israeli citizen does. Thus while they are causing the fighting, they aren't doing any of the dying or at least fighting over the region. More moderate and left Israelis think what Bibi, the Likud and ultra-Orthodox are doing is despicable. For the ultra-Orthodox to make a biblical claim to the area makes far less sense than a Native American coming to your house and saying, "I used to live here five hundred years ago. Get out." At least that claim is based on well-recorded history, not myths and storybooks. And even if there is history behind the ultra-Orthodox's claim, it wouldn't be those of Ashkenazi descent who once lived in the West Bank. It would be Sephardic Jews who look exactly like the Palestinians. But it is primarily ultra-Orthodox Ashkenanzi Hasidim staking their claims. And I actually think this is bad for Israel and bad for the Jewish people long-term. A country founded in hope and sanctuary for refugees has become a caricature of what it once was because of Bibi and the Likud. And there are plenty of Israelis who feel the same way.
  • edited December 2020
    Well LewisBraham, Israel is the only county that will accept Jews when things will get really bad. We already have a proof of what happened to Jews in the last 2 thousand years. It happened again in France several years back and thousands immigrated to Israel.
    Like most Lib you try to play the race card. Politics in Israel was never easy or united for decades already. I have talked to many Israelis, many don't like Bibi but couldn't come up with a better replacement. Many don't like most politicians either, what a surprise?. I already acknowledged the West Bank problem.
    Bibi isn't going to live forever and things will change but comparing Israel to other Middle East countries is so far from the truth.
    Funny thing, nobody can come up with a real doable solution.
    When you ask them what about Gaza? they have nothing much.
    Since most of you Libs, I didn't expect any real viable solution or agreement with me.
    Is Israel perfect? nope, but far ahead of all the dictators and the other Middle East countries. It's a miracle to see how Israel developed and what it achieved in spite of all the wars and the enemies and its contribution to the world in science, medicine and IT is beyond any nation based on the size of its population.
    Now let's go back and talk about the US. This country slaughter the Indians and occupied land taken by wars. Sure, it happened hundreds of years ago, but you still did it. You threw 2 atomic bombs on Japan killing between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians. That was 1945. The US killed over 300K Vietnamese civilians, that was until 1975. Israel fights for its existence, Vietnam is thousands of miles away. Racism among western countries just until several decades and maybe still today has been pretty high. Am I getting closer to today? Maybe Israel should adopt the USA way and nuke them. So, before you lecture me about Israel please take a look at the US.
    You just can't talk about the Palestinians in a vacuum, the Middle East is a complicated place, Muslims regimes are extreme. They fight and kill each other regardless, and they hate Jews and Christians. There is no way to live in the Middle East and be "pure" and survive.
    Amanpour is one of the most biased journalist I know. When I served in the West Bank and Gaza on the ground, CNN was reporting lies and misinformation constantly. Nothing really changed for decades. Nothing new in general.
    Most journalists and major media outlets are Liberal. Being "good", "right", and "pure" sound good until it hits you.

    BTW, I used to be Liberal and naive, but I grew up and got wiser.
    Lastly, many can't stand strong and prosper Israel. Finally, Jews, only in Israel, are not afraid or timid. I guess you really prefer the Muslim regimes over Israel, are you? or maybe naive to think that Liberalism exists without getting your hands dirty. Unfortunately any conflict with extremer regimes such as Muslims countries, China, Russia isn't easy or short. Are Israelis going to do the next attack in US soil or the these extreme regimes?
  • edited December 2020
    @FD1000 Your response is hilariously hypocritical. You accuse me of "playing the race card" and making generalizations and then talk of "Muslim regimes" being aggressive, killing each other and hating Christians and Jews as if all Muslims are a monolith, as if all the people of Saudi Arabia are identical to those in Jordan, Egypt or Indonesia. There are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. Are they all identical to you? Then you make the nasty and actually anti-Semitic claim that "Finally, Jews, only in Israel, are not afraid or timid." So Jews in the diaspora are cowards in your view? And of course the sheer hypocrisy of this machismo about Israel while ignoring the simple fact that the ultra-Orthodox in the West Bank or anywhere in Israel don't have to serve in the military because of their religion, don't have to fight or do the dying for the region. And then there's the Law of Return. The ultra-Orthodox have been pushing in Israel to forbid liberal reform and conservative Jews from being allowed to become citizens: https://haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-bill-denying-citizenship-to-non-orthodox-jewish-converts-stalls-1.5729715They already prevent non-Orthodox from legally marrying in some cases. So Israel really is becoming an ultra-orthodox theocracy, with two tiers of citizenship, and perhaps not the only place safe for Jews as you claim, but only safe for the ultra-Orthodox with the same group think.
    And I know Israel's real history. It was socialist zionist kibbutzniks who really built the country in the beginning, who really fought for it and died for it as a sanctuary for European refugees. Guys like David Ben-Gurion were not particularly religious and were not particularly interested in biblical claims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion As for many Israelis not liking Bibi and not being able to find a replacement or a better solution to the current one, I will say they had a better replacement and solution. His hame was Yitzhak Rabin, and he was making strides towards bringing peace to the region when he was assassinated. Yet it wasn't an Islamic terrorist who killed him. It was Yigal Amir, a far rightwing ultra-orthodox Jew. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin
    I was there when it happened and it was a tragedy for the peace process. The Likud and Bibi have ruined that country much like the right-wing in the U.S. have ruined it. And I make no excuses for the U.S.'s history regarding slavery or Native Americans or about dropping nuclear weapons on Japan. But in your whataboutist logic, somehow the U.S.'s misdeeds justify Bibi's and Likud's. I agree the situation is complicated. But it is you that are making reductive simplistic claims. I see Israel's left as being held hostage by the Likud and the ultra-Orthodox. I recognize the complexity fully and don't generalize about Muslims, Israelis or the Middle East at all. This is the pot calling the kettle black.
  • edited December 2020
    The usual, no response to any of my questions. No response to the evil in the Middle East.
    Let me guess, you know if one day you visit one of these Muslims countries, it may be very inconvenient for you.
    All I did was post about a good thing of a peace agreement between Israel and Morocco and all the liberals had to find something bad to say.
    Gaza is a good case why it will not work.
    The longer the Palestinians wait the worse it gets. We are going in circles, let me know when you have a real solution not a dream.
    Yes, I can generalize. The vast majority of the Muslim population is great but many of the regimes are extreme. Just post what Muslim countries(start with Saudi Arabia) have extreme regimes and what they did wrong, since you know so much it would be pretty easy. I bet you are afraid to post it and all you do is blame Israel for everything, pretty obvious on what side you are.
  • Elias Chacour enjoyed a simple childhood in Biram, a small village in Galilee. School, church, and family met his needs and nurtured his soul, so he grew in the security of love and spirituality. Even as a young child, he particularly enjoyed going off by himself to talk with his hero, Jesus, a man he came to know not just as the Christian savior but as a human with strength and purpose. Life as he knew it came to a violent and crushing end, however, as World War II ended and Zionist Jews, with their militias, moved into Palestine, confiscating Palestinian land, routing entire villages, and driving the natives from their own land. Elias' family was forced from their village, their orchards ultimately being sold to a Zionist investor. In a horrible twist of irony, Elias' father and older brothers, from their new home in Gish, were employed to work in the fig orchards they once owned. Hoping to provide a better future for his young son, Michael Chacour sent Elias to an orphanage in order to receive and education under the supervision of the Bishop. As a student and then seminarian, Elias sought somehow to reconcile what had been inflicted upon his people with the promises of God and Jesus, though he struggled with anger and hatred toward the interloping Zionists well into adulthood. Upon ordination, he was assigned a dying church in the factious village of Ibillin and was forced to confront his own "demons" as he fought to unify its people. His journey to ultimate reconciliation within himself and his subsequent efforts to foster reconciliation among warring peoples, rewrites much of the history of the Middle East, providing the reader with perspectives not given in typical Western history texts. Rather than focus on the injustices of the past, however, Father Chacour, from his current residence in the village of Ibillin, has become a force for peace, justice and reconciliation among all ethnic and religious groups in Israel, bringing dignity to Arabic Palestinians and fostering cooperation and mutual effort toward progress. Chacour has spearheaded the construction of community centers, schools and libraries in native Palestinian villages throughout Israel and has founded the country's first non-sectarian university in Ibillin. He has received praise and honor from fellow Christians, Muslims, and the Israeli government, so much so, that he was named Man of the Year in Israel. Blood Brothers is both an authentic picture of the historical development of the current Palestinian issue and a story of the spiritual journey of one man who refused to allow the forces of anger and hatred to consume him.
    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ctiwLWLUL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
  • edited December 2020
    Any war follows by many sad stories. Let's think what would be the reverse. Muslim win, Israel lose. How about killing thousands, raping women, taking over everything...basically hell. They have done it to Christians, Jews and other Muslims too. The Middle East regimes don't have real election, women don't have equal rights and if you speak up against it, you are interrogated, jailed and maybe shot.

    There is a good reason LewisBraham wouldn't post the bad stuff about countries like Saudi Arabia (a "friend" of the USA and where the guys who did 9/11 came from) because if he ever wants to visit/work in these Muslim countries there maybe consequences, while nothing will happen to him if he will visit Israel.

    Hey crash you want real "great stories", try (this)
    1) In May 2019, 690 rockets and mortars sent from Gaza into Israel
    2) During November 12-13, 562 rockets and mortars were fired from Gaza into Israel, forcing schools to close and civilians to take shelter in affected areas.

    Let me know how you feel living in San Diego while Mexico sends hundreds of rockets toward you.

    Or, maybe you want to read about Palestinian political violence that targeted Israelis, Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanians,[18] Egyptians,[19] Americans[20] and citizens of other countries.[21]

    Or, maybe you want to educate yourself about Islamic terrorism "The largest numbers of incidents and fatalities caused by Islamic terrorism have occurred in India, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Yemen, and Syria.[3] In 2015 four Islamic extremist groups were responsible for 74% of all deaths from Islamic terrorism: ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda, according to the Global Terrorism Index 2016.[4] Since approximately 2000, these incidents have occurred on a global scale, affecting not only Muslim-majority states in Africa and Asia, but also states with non-Muslim majority such as the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Sweden, Russia, Australia, Canada, Sri Lanka, Israel, China, India and Philippines."

    And I can post hundreds of sad stories about Jews who abused and murdered over many years in many countries, including the USA.
    The Muslims will have to acknowledge the existence of Israel at some point and the simple facts are Israel wants peace and always looked for one but terror must stop first. We already know how it looks, Gaza is a good example.

    You post I will answer, until you quit, or maybe you want to go back to investing :-)
  • edited December 2020
    @FD1000
    There is a good reason LewisBraham wouldn't post the bad stuff about countries like Saudi Arabia (a "friend" of the USA and where the guys who did 9/11 came from) because if he ever wants to visit/work in these Muslim countries there maybe consequences, while nothing will happen to him if he will visit Israel.
    Thanks for putting fake words in my mouth. Years ago I applied for a job in Qatar and was considering it and was considered for it in the wealthiest country per capita on earth. Didn't get the job but the employer expressed interest. I also have visited and enjoyed Egypt, Turkey, Morocco and Jordan. Would I want to live in these countries? Probably not, but then I wouldn't want to live in Israel today as an apartheid state either.

    I have no problem criticizing any Middle Eastern country's regime, and don't care if it impacts my future there. Turkey's Erdogan is another nationalist idiot like Trump. Saudi Arabian royals were responsible for 9-11, and it's a pity that Republican Bush cozied up to them afterwards and attacked another country instead that had nothing to do with 9-11--Iraq. Egypt's new uber-religious, now militarized el-Sisi regime has been a disaster. Qatar, despite being wealthy, can be repressive. Iran's shah has ruined what once was an enlightened democratic country. Results at the top are bad when religious rightwing fanatics end-up in charge wherever you are, including in Israel and the Evangelical rightwing in the U.S..
    The usual, no response to any of my questions.
    In your lengthy diatribe against me you asked six questions, three of which were straw men rhetorical ones that you answered yourself, one of which I answered and two of which I will answer now.

    Rhetorical, no answer:
    Many don't like most politicians either, what a surprise?.
    When you ask them what about Gaza? they have nothing much.
    Is Israel perfect? nope, but far ahead of all the dictators and the other Middle East countries.
    I answered that I make no excuses for America's behavior:
    Racism among western countries just until several decades and maybe still today has been pretty high. Am I getting closer to today?
    Unanswered:
    I guess you really prefer the Muslim regimes over Israel, are you? or maybe naive to think that Liberalism exists without getting your hands dirty. Unfortunately any conflict with extremer regimes such as Muslims countries, China, Russia isn't easy or short. Are Israelis going to do the next attack in US soil or the these extreme regimes?
    This is your usual whatboutist propagandist logic, pointing the finger in other directions instead of addressing the real problems. I never said I prefer other Middle Eastern regimes. But their behavior towards their own citizens does not justify Bibi's Likud party's regime's treatment of the Palestinians. If your neighbor stones his his wife to death for having an affair that does not justify holding someone completely unrelated in your basement and torturing them.

    The thing is, despite your earlier remark "The vast majority of the Muslim population is great but many of the regimes are extreme" it is evident that you are not talking about their political leadership but Muslims in general as a people when you say things like:
    Muslim win, Israel lose. How about killing thousands, raping women, taking over everything...basically hell.
    The truth of the matter is you see all 1.8 billion Muslims as the same, a part of the same political entity acting in concert. That is the only way for you to rationalize Israel's treatment of the Palestinians by pointing the finger at places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Their own represssive regimes do not in any way justify Israel's own towards the Palestinians unless you lump them all together. But the truth is, both are bad. Similarly, regarding your last question:
    Are Israelis going to do the next attack in US soil or the these extreme regimes?
    You can't look at that last question as a justification for Israel's treatment of the Palestinians unless you lump all Muslims together and say that any Islamic terrorists in the U.S. are the same as the Palestinians in the West Bank--that they are all the same and part of the same group. Fundamentally, you are a racist prejudiced person who sees all Muslims as the same.
  • @FD1000: I will steal just part of one sentence from @LewisBraham and re-direct it to you. Then I'm done. Time spent discussing with you is wasted because you refuse to LEARN. There is no honest conversation happening here, because your mind is already made up and refuses to consider new information. You are a pharisee of the worst sort, referred to by Jesus in the Christian gospels. Hypocrite. And that partial sentence from Lewis? Here it is: "This is your usual whatabout-ist propagandist logic..."
  • LewisBraham, it's pretty funny to read your comments. Your conclusions are so one-sided, GOP are all bad, Dems are good. Obama foreign policy was a disaster and a direct cause to ISIS, he couldn't even handle ISIS until Trump did.
    When I say "The vast majority of the Muslim population is great but many of the regimes are extreme" I mean it, you are not the one to interpret it, I live there for decades, visited the west bank, shopped there, fixed my car and so on.
    I'm still waiting for your viable solution in the West Bank. The Palestinians had their windows of opportunities but their leaders missed it, and they can't control the extreme. It got complicated and will continue this way.
    If Israel uses the Gaza model and bring all their citizens back within the old border, give them all the West Bank, they still wouldn't be able to handle it. They got full control of Gaza + billions of dollars and have nothing to show for. They still sent hundreds of missiles toward Israel. But I already said it...it's easy to be a terrorist but much harder to really run a country.

    Crash, you entitle to your own opinion but really have no clue.
    Jews lived in the area since forever. Actually, I can trace my family in Israel in the last several centuries.
    I don't know many countries that started a war on another country, lost, and then got most of their land back more than once. The Israeli army could easily reach the capitols and destroyed them.
    Lastly, a true peace can only be achieved if the Muslim countries acknowledged the existence of Israel and start a true relationship, after all, the vast majority of the population wants it.
    You are the Hypocrite, until you don't really experience the situation on the ground, and especially when you are safe far away from the conflict, it means nothing.
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