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Morocco has become the latest Arab League country to agree to normalise relations with Israel in a deal brokered with US help.
As part of the deal, the US has agreed to recognise Morocco's claim over the disputed Western Sahara region.
It is the subject of a dispute between Morocco and the Algeria-backed Polisario Front, which has been seeking to establish an independent state.
Morocco is the fourth state to make such a deal with Israel since August.
Agreements have also been struck recently with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Sudan.
Along with Egypt and Jordan, Morocco becomes the sixth Arab League member to normalise ties with Israel.
Another win for Trump.
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The Palestinian made their own bed. They had several chances but didn't take it and continue with terrorism. It's much easier to be a terrorist than to run a country.
The Jewish treatment of the Palestinians and occupation of their territory is presently active. You are quick to condemn deplorable past actions of the United States, but have no problem in continuing to do exactly the same thing yourselves.
You encroach upon and occupy any Palestinian area that seems attractive to you. You drive the Palestinian occupants of those areas into compounds which you make difficult to access or around which you build walls. You justify this by condemning the reactions of the Palestinians who have the temerity to object to this treatment.
You constantly remind us of what was done to you in Europe, but have no problem doing some of those same things yourself. What our ancestors did is no excuse for what you are doing right now. Both are equally shameful.
You conveniently forget what came first and how it started. Israel was founded in 1948, who started the war and the next one? Who wants to kill all the Jews(and Christians too) and still say it?
The Palestinians and the settlers is and will be a problem. In the beginning, the Palestinians used to come and work in Israel, their education and services got better, they got autonomy but Palestinian terrorists had many explosions inside Israel and why the wall was erected and solved the problem.
It's funny that Israel supposed to solve the Palestinian problem while other countries such as Egypt, Jordan and Syria and other Arab countries don't. Israel has been looking for peace for decades and signed it with several countries. The Palestinians were offered a pretty good deal, but they rejected it. The Palestinian leadership can't control the extreme while Israel can. So, instead of getting 90% of what they want, they get nothing and continue to suffer.
But wait, Gaza is a good case to see what would happen if the Palestinians control it. It's now about 15 years since they have the control. They got billions in aid from the west, instead of investing in education, services, commerce, they build tunnels and sent thousands of rockets to Israel + other terror attacks. As I said already, it's easy to be a terrorist but much more difficult to run a country.
Nothing new here in several Arab countries, most of the people are great but a small % of extreme rule the population and dictate their life. Some times, if you find a moderate leader with good intention he/she will get slaughtered.
BTW, do you find many Israeli terrorist attack globally compare to Muslim?
It's also very easy and safe to live in the US thousands of miles from any enemy and lecture others. Just several years ago, they shot hundreds of missiles from Gaza toward Israel. I want to know how the US would respond to similar attach from Mexico into Southern CA? Just a month ago they shot 2 missiles from Gaza close to Tel-Aviv(link), again, I like to see how you react when it happens to your family.
It reminds of an American guy from M* that lives in France and used to post the same garbage. I told him that once an explosion will hit close to him, he will change his tune, and it happened and what do you know, he changed his mind.
Israel, under the present expansionist leadership, uses superior armament and force in two ways: to respond to attacks from other Mid-East entities, and to aggressively encroach upon and occupy any Palestinian area that seems attractive to it. In part, the attacks upon Israel are the direct result of this latter policy.
None of you are the least bit interested in actually achieving a lasting and peaceful compromise. Most frequently whichever seat of power believes that it has the upper hand in any given situation will choose military aggression as it's first option.
While it is true that Israel has been the target of many of these attacks and has justifiably responded, it is equally true that Israel has frequently used it's superior military force to create or inflame situations that eventually result in some of those attacks.
You people deserve each other. A pox on all of you.
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But, let's see a big picture first without Israel. Any country is a democracy? Are these countries leaders treat their own citizens well? Are these countries have a great relationship with each other (think of all the wars among them)? that is a nutshell why Israel can't safely achieve real peace.
There is no way a trust can be build when terror doesn't stop.
Why several Arab countries now made peace with Israel? because of Israel and Trump strength.
Why ISIS started? because of Obama's weakness.
When Egypt and Israel made peace, Israel cleared the settlements. The Palestinians keep waiting and denying every offer. The more they wait, more settlements and Jews will increase, and it will get harder.
The Middle East swamp is unsolvable between Israel and the Palestinian or without Israel until Islam will get more moderate and advanced. Actually, it's a global problem in India, Africa and now in Europe (wait and see, it's just the beginning) and could arrive to the US...wait, it already did in 9/11
I know, you will deny it but hey, that's your choice and opinion.
Like most Lib you try to play the race card. Politics in Israel was never easy or united for decades already. I have talked to many Israelis, many don't like Bibi but couldn't come up with a better replacement. Many don't like most politicians either, what a surprise?. I already acknowledged the West Bank problem.
Bibi isn't going to live forever and things will change but comparing Israel to other Middle East countries is so far from the truth.
Funny thing, nobody can come up with a real doable solution.
When you ask them what about Gaza? they have nothing much.
Since most of you Libs, I didn't expect any real viable solution or agreement with me.
Is Israel perfect? nope, but far ahead of all the dictators and the other Middle East countries. It's a miracle to see how Israel developed and what it achieved in spite of all the wars and the enemies and its contribution to the world in science, medicine and IT is beyond any nation based on the size of its population.
Now let's go back and talk about the US. This country slaughter the Indians and occupied land taken by wars. Sure, it happened hundreds of years ago, but you still did it. You threw 2 atomic bombs on Japan killing between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians. That was 1945. The US killed over 300K Vietnamese civilians, that was until 1975. Israel fights for its existence, Vietnam is thousands of miles away. Racism among western countries just until several decades and maybe still today has been pretty high. Am I getting closer to today? Maybe Israel should adopt the USA way and nuke them. So, before you lecture me about Israel please take a look at the US.
You just can't talk about the Palestinians in a vacuum, the Middle East is a complicated place, Muslims regimes are extreme. They fight and kill each other regardless, and they hate Jews and Christians. There is no way to live in the Middle East and be "pure" and survive.
Amanpour is one of the most biased journalist I know. When I served in the West Bank and Gaza on the ground, CNN was reporting lies and misinformation constantly. Nothing really changed for decades. Nothing new in general.
Most journalists and major media outlets are Liberal. Being "good", "right", and "pure" sound good until it hits you.
BTW, I used to be Liberal and naive, but I grew up and got wiser.
Lastly, many can't stand strong and prosper Israel. Finally, Jews, only in Israel, are not afraid or timid. I guess you really prefer the Muslim regimes over Israel, are you? or maybe naive to think that Liberalism exists without getting your hands dirty. Unfortunately any conflict with extremer regimes such as Muslims countries, China, Russia isn't easy or short. Are Israelis going to do the next attack in US soil or the these extreme regimes?
And I know Israel's real history. It was socialist zionist kibbutzniks who really built the country in the beginning, who really fought for it and died for it as a sanctuary for European refugees. Guys like David Ben-Gurion were not particularly religious and were not particularly interested in biblical claims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion As for many Israelis not liking Bibi and not being able to find a replacement or a better solution to the current one, I will say they had a better replacement and solution. His hame was Yitzhak Rabin, and he was making strides towards bringing peace to the region when he was assassinated. Yet it wasn't an Islamic terrorist who killed him. It was Yigal Amir, a far rightwing ultra-orthodox Jew. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin
I was there when it happened and it was a tragedy for the peace process. The Likud and Bibi have ruined that country much like the right-wing in the U.S. have ruined it. And I make no excuses for the U.S.'s history regarding slavery or Native Americans or about dropping nuclear weapons on Japan. But in your whataboutist logic, somehow the U.S.'s misdeeds justify Bibi's and Likud's. I agree the situation is complicated. But it is you that are making reductive simplistic claims. I see Israel's left as being held hostage by the Likud and the ultra-Orthodox. I recognize the complexity fully and don't generalize about Muslims, Israelis or the Middle East at all. This is the pot calling the kettle black.
Let me guess, you know if one day you visit one of these Muslims countries, it may be very inconvenient for you.
All I did was post about a good thing of a peace agreement between Israel and Morocco and all the liberals had to find something bad to say.
Gaza is a good case why it will not work.
The longer the Palestinians wait the worse it gets. We are going in circles, let me know when you have a real solution not a dream.
Yes, I can generalize. The vast majority of the Muslim population is great but many of the regimes are extreme. Just post what Muslim countries(start with Saudi Arabia) have extreme regimes and what they did wrong, since you know so much it would be pretty easy. I bet you are afraid to post it and all you do is blame Israel for everything, pretty obvious on what side you are.
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There is a good reason LewisBraham wouldn't post the bad stuff about countries like Saudi Arabia (a "friend" of the USA and where the guys who did 9/11 came from) because if he ever wants to visit/work in these Muslim countries there maybe consequences, while nothing will happen to him if he will visit Israel.
Hey crash you want real "great stories", try (this)
1) In May 2019, 690 rockets and mortars sent from Gaza into Israel
2) During November 12-13, 562 rockets and mortars were fired from Gaza into Israel, forcing schools to close and civilians to take shelter in affected areas.
Let me know how you feel living in San Diego while Mexico sends hundreds of rockets toward you.
Or, maybe you want to read about Palestinian political violence that targeted Israelis, Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanians,[18] Egyptians,[19] Americans[20] and citizens of other countries.[21]
Or, maybe you want to educate yourself about Islamic terrorism "The largest numbers of incidents and fatalities caused by Islamic terrorism have occurred in India, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Yemen, and Syria.[3] In 2015 four Islamic extremist groups were responsible for 74% of all deaths from Islamic terrorism: ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda, according to the Global Terrorism Index 2016.[4] Since approximately 2000, these incidents have occurred on a global scale, affecting not only Muslim-majority states in Africa and Asia, but also states with non-Muslim majority such as the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Sweden, Russia, Australia, Canada, Sri Lanka, Israel, China, India and Philippines."
And I can post hundreds of sad stories about Jews who abused and murdered over many years in many countries, including the USA.
The Muslims will have to acknowledge the existence of Israel at some point and the simple facts are Israel wants peace and always looked for one but terror must stop first. We already know how it looks, Gaza is a good example.
You post I will answer, until you quit, or maybe you want to go back to investing
I have no problem criticizing any Middle Eastern country's regime, and don't care if it impacts my future there. Turkey's Erdogan is another nationalist idiot like Trump. Saudi Arabian royals were responsible for 9-11, and it's a pity that Republican Bush cozied up to them afterwards and attacked another country instead that had nothing to do with 9-11--Iraq. Egypt's new uber-religious, now militarized el-Sisi regime has been a disaster. Qatar, despite being wealthy, can be repressive. Iran's shah has ruined what once was an enlightened democratic country. Results at the top are bad when religious rightwing fanatics end-up in charge wherever you are, including in Israel and the Evangelical rightwing in the U.S.. In your lengthy diatribe against me you asked six questions, three of which were straw men rhetorical ones that you answered yourself, one of which I answered and two of which I will answer now.
Rhetorical, no answer: I answered that I make no excuses for America's behavior: Unanswered: This is your usual whatboutist propagandist logic, pointing the finger in other directions instead of addressing the real problems. I never said I prefer other Middle Eastern regimes. But their behavior towards their own citizens does not justify Bibi's Likud party's regime's treatment of the Palestinians. If your neighbor stones his his wife to death for having an affair that does not justify holding someone completely unrelated in your basement and torturing them.
The thing is, despite your earlier remark "The vast majority of the Muslim population is great but many of the regimes are extreme" it is evident that you are not talking about their political leadership but Muslims in general as a people when you say things like: The truth of the matter is you see all 1.8 billion Muslims as the same, a part of the same political entity acting in concert. That is the only way for you to rationalize Israel's treatment of the Palestinians by pointing the finger at places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Their own represssive regimes do not in any way justify Israel's own towards the Palestinians unless you lump them all together. But the truth is, both are bad. Similarly, regarding your last question: You can't look at that last question as a justification for Israel's treatment of the Palestinians unless you lump all Muslims together and say that any Islamic terrorists in the U.S. are the same as the Palestinians in the West Bank--that they are all the same and part of the same group. Fundamentally, you are a racist prejudiced person who sees all Muslims as the same.
When I say "The vast majority of the Muslim population is great but many of the regimes are extreme" I mean it, you are not the one to interpret it, I live there for decades, visited the west bank, shopped there, fixed my car and so on.
I'm still waiting for your viable solution in the West Bank. The Palestinians had their windows of opportunities but their leaders missed it, and they can't control the extreme. It got complicated and will continue this way.
If Israel uses the Gaza model and bring all their citizens back within the old border, give them all the West Bank, they still wouldn't be able to handle it. They got full control of Gaza + billions of dollars and have nothing to show for. They still sent hundreds of missiles toward Israel. But I already said it...it's easy to be a terrorist but much harder to really run a country.
Crash, you entitle to your own opinion but really have no clue.
Jews lived in the area since forever. Actually, I can trace my family in Israel in the last several centuries.
I don't know many countries that started a war on another country, lost, and then got most of their land back more than once. The Israeli army could easily reach the capitols and destroyed them.
Lastly, a true peace can only be achieved if the Muslim countries acknowledged the existence of Israel and start a true relationship, after all, the vast majority of the population wants it.
You are the Hypocrite, until you don't really experience the situation on the ground, and especially when you are safe far away from the conflict, it means nothing.