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"BLM" Rioters "Shut Down" Restaurants In Rochester, Smash Bank Windows In Manhattan, During Latest N

edited September 2020 in Off-Topic
In a Democrat controlled city (cities) ... "While mainstream media outlets like the New York Times largely neglected to cover the goings-on in Rochester, New York, last night, independent and local reporters were on the scene to document the chaos as agitator-fueled unrest engulfed yet another small post-industrial American city."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blm-rioters-shut-down-restaurants-rochester-smash-bank-windows-manhattan-night-mayhem

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  • Did another unarmed man die in Rochester? Oh well... I guess they choked. I mean look at all the attention it's getting and it's STILL happening.
  • I tire of this back-and-forth. The "what-about-ism" is killing me. It's not any sort of defense or justification for the soul-less, ignorant, unfettered childish behavior of the one who occupies the White House right now. "What-about-ism" has been postd before, on this discussion board.
    "...without directly refuting or disproving their argument." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
  • Hmmm OS, why are those darn black people so angry? Comparing your post to Mona's, I think you look foolish. I think Mona's video highlights that. You go ahead and make your America great again by keeping your status quo.
  • Black lives matter. I guess I will die without seeing this country understand. President Barack Obama gave me hope that America could change. How naïve was I?
  • Anna said:

    Black lives matter. I guess I will die without seeing this country understand. President Barack Obama gave me hope that America could change. How naïve was I?

    My Alma Mater is seriously confronting the issue, though I can't say the METHOD is always to my liking. They invited feedback from alumni, so I sent them some, earlier today. Confronting the past, facing the future, too.
    https://www.ptsem.edu/
    https://slavery.ptsem.edu/the-report/introduction/
  • It's been my personal observation that the elections of Obama actually lit the torches of at least some of the Trumpsters. Having a black person as president seems to have been one step too many, and pushed them over the edge. Their entire "value system" was overwhelmed and threatened.
  • edited September 2020
    Most whites don't realize or (I've been there ) don't get it... what if the previous 4 generations to you were shall we say not given a fair shake... THINK ABOUT IT.... . I was always against reparations but not now ...walk a mile in their moccasins,,,,
  • Crash said:

    Anna said:

    Black lives matter. I guess I will die without seeing this country understand. President Barack Obama gave me hope that America could change. How naïve was I?

    My Alma Mater is seriously confronting the issue, though I can't say the METHOD is always to my liking. They invited feedback from alumni, so I sent them some, earlier today. Confronting the past, facing the future, too.
    https://www.ptsem.edu/
    https://slavery.ptsem.edu/the-report/introduction/
    Are/were you in the Reformed tradition?
  • Old_Joe said:

    It's been my personal observation that the elections of Obama actually lit the torches of at least some of the Trumpsters. Having a black person as president seems to have been one step too many, and pushed them over the edge. Their entire "value system" was overwhelmed and threatened.

    yes and yes
  • Crash said:


    My Alma Mater is seriously confronting the issue, though I can't say the METHOD is always to my liking. They invited feedback from alumni, so I sent them some, earlier today. Confronting the past, facing the future, too.
    https://www.ptsem.edu/
    https://slavery.ptsem.edu/the-report/introduction/

    Thanks, fascinating report especially the early time frame cognitive dissonance of some of the moral leaders of yesterday.

  • royal4 said:

    Most whites don't realize or (I've been there ) don't get it... what if the previous 4 generations to you were shall we say not given a fair shake... THINK ABOUT IT.... . I was always against reparations but not now ...walk a mile in their moccasins,,,,

    you read this, perhaps?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/opinion/trump-suburbs-racism.html

    As a teenager 57y ago in SW Ohio I demonstrated and leafleted for local fair housing legislation, and this FHA stuff is sickening, like the 40ac+mule reversal.
  • WABAC said:

    Crash said:

    Anna said:

    Black lives matter. I guess I will die without seeing this country understand. President Barack Obama gave me hope that America could change. How naïve was I?

    My Alma Mater is seriously confronting the issue, though I can't say the METHOD is always to my liking. They invited feedback from alumni, so I sent them some, earlier today. Confronting the past, facing the future, too.
    https://www.ptsem.edu/
    https://slavery.ptsem.edu/the-report/introduction/
    Are/were you in the Reformed tradition?
    Yes! Presbyterian Church (USA.) But it was never a good "marriage." I took the standard seminary degree as a Catholic. Then I wanted to get married, so I switched. So they asked me to get a supplemental degree. I was on the East Coast then, so I went to PTS. Just a year, full-time. First wife is PC-USA. She was ordained before I was. ...These days, there's no in-person church here on Sundays, but I attend Episcopalian. ... How about you?
  • edited September 2020
    @Anna Glad that the report rang your bells. It's about time such a document and the rest of the ongoing stuff is getting done. After watching an introductory video, however, I was not very impressed with THAT particular item. Before moving here, I substituted a lot in the pulpit for a mostly black congregation in my hometown. One particular woman was married to a white fellow. He was sharing some of the basic lessons in the training they were giving. For instance, the two of them walk into a shop, and the salesperson automatically addresses HIM--- even though SHE'S got the purse and is obviously wearing a look on her face that says: "I'M here to buy something." ..... Deep down, I'm thinking this is much ado about nothing, insignificant. But meatier issues do remain. Integrity, character, genuineness, humility, a willingness to learn: these things cannot be legislated. People need to have human hearts, and simply look the other person in the eye. On the societal level, it goes without saying that laws are necessary to ensure that discriminatory rules and policies aren't foisted on people of color. I volunteered to say, in the feedback I offered to the folks at PTS, that my own thoughts and perspective comes from very often being the only white person in the room, for years and years.
  • Crash said:

    WABAC said:

    Crash said:

    Anna said:

    Black lives matter. I guess I will die without seeing this country understand. President Barack Obama gave me hope that America could change. How naïve was I?

    My Alma Mater is seriously confronting the issue, though I can't say the METHOD is always to my liking. They invited feedback from alumni, so I sent them some, earlier today. Confronting the past, facing the future, too.
    https://www.ptsem.edu/
    https://slavery.ptsem.edu/the-report/introduction/
    Are/were you in the Reformed tradition?
    Yes! Presbyterian Church (USA.) But it was never a good "marriage." I took the standard seminary degree as a Catholic. Then I wanted to get married, so I switched. So they asked me to get a supplemental degree. I was on the East Coast then, so I went to PTS. Just a year, full-time. First wife is PC-USA. She was ordained before I was. ...These days, there's no in-person church here on Sundays, but I attend Episcopalian. ... How about you?
    Crash said:

    WABAC said:

    Crash said:

    Anna said:

    Black lives matter. I guess I will die without seeing this country understand. President Barack Obama gave me hope that America could change. How naïve was I?

    My Alma Mater is seriously confronting the issue, though I can't say the METHOD is always to my liking. They invited feedback from alumni, so I sent them some, earlier today. Confronting the past, facing the future, too.
    https://www.ptsem.edu/
    https://slavery.ptsem.edu/the-report/introduction/
    Are/were you in the Reformed tradition?
    Yes! Presbyterian Church (USA.) But it was never a good "marriage." I took the standard seminary degree as a Catholic. Then I wanted to get married, so I switched. So they asked me to get a supplemental degree. I was on the East Coast then, so I went to PTS. Just a year, full-time. First wife is PC-USA. She was ordained before I was. ...These days, there's no in-person church here on Sundays, but I attend Episcopalian. ... How about you?
    Un-churched, non-subscribing, old-light, existentialist Calvinist with a boat-load of We Free Men in the family tree (if you read Terry Pratchett.) Lots of Christian Church and Cumberlands too.

    My grandmother came home from the grand tour at the turn of the 19th century with one of these little mementos of Savanarola. Probably seen as a pre-reformation martyr like Jan Hus.

    I got my BA in religion at one of the little Princetons that dot the prairies (Macalaster St. Paul, MN). But I was mainly studying the history of the early church and the writing of the Bible. I have forgotten the technical nomenclature for all that.

    While I'm not superstitious, I'm afraid I might be struck dead if I darkened the door of an Episcopalian church.;-)
  • Does a Born Again Agnostic raised as a Catholic count for anything? :)
  • Old_Joe said:

    Does a Born Again Agnostic raised as a Catholic count for anything? :)

    Is there any comfort in numbers? Everybody I know that went to Catholic school belongs to your church.
  • edited September 2020
    My good friend in western Massachusetts calls himself a "lapsed agnostic." He's stopped worrying about it. (This could become an interesting off-topic thread, if we keep it intellectual.) I'm always evolving when it comes to this stuff. Because the very topic is a reaching, or the attempt to reach, what is ultimately beyond our ken. But that hasn't stopped humans through the ages from asking the Ultimate questions.

    Voltaire: "If God did not exist, we should have to invent him."

    Nietzsche: "I would believe only in a god who could dance... Now I am light, now I fly. Now I see myself beneath myself, now a god dances through me."
    ("Thus Spake Zarathustra.")
    **************************************
    "Zorba, teach me to dance." ---The "Boss."

    ...And THIS thread's been hijacked. Woops.
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