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  • The Only Thing A Muni Bond Guru Won't Predict
    Thanks Ted,
    Three national Munis I have used in taxable accounts are from USAA. USAA is NFT at Vanguard.
    USATX - Intermediate Term Nat'l Muni
    USTEX - Long Term Nat'l Muni
    USSTX - Short Term Nat'l Muni
    I noticed SFLTX has a load, high turnover rate (218%) and a slightly higher ER. USAA's turnover rate is 13%. Here they are charted together over the last year. Capital apreciation has been a big part of muni gains.
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  • The New Safe Haven Durning Stock Market Sell-Offs
    Reply to @bee: Some of them already trade at zero or negative spread to treasuries (hi quality companies). i would not count on capital gains here. the asset class will be lucky to collect its interest payments. it will go straight down with increase in interest rates. lower quality companies' debt will continue some correlation with equities, but don't expect much capital appreciation there as well. the spread is tight and 'all in' yield is at historical low while defaults hit the bottom and are poised to rise a bit. again, the investors should be just happy to collect yield at this point in time.
  • The New Safe Haven Durning Stock Market Sell-Offs
    Wondering if Long Term corporates bond funds might continue to be the beneficiary of capital appreciation especially if interest rates in this sector move lower. These bonds impact the growth of the private economy...maybe a tax incentive to owns these bonds much like munis might be one way the governments could juice these investment as well as providing liquidity.
    Me thinks you are on to something...
  • A Look Back at Dodge & Cox Stock Fund (DODGX)

    Several recent posts prompted me to take a closer look at DODGX historical performance.
    Ted posted the most recent: "Dodge & Cox: The San Francisco Treat". Basically, an article from Morningstar defending why D&C has been a top pick for years, based on a strong corporate fiduciary culture and long term record, despite its struggle in 2008 and poor stock selections since, like HPQ, a DODGX heavy for years. hank and Shostakovich made good comments about AUM, definition of value, intrinsic risk management, and debated whether a better approach for a value shop is to be all-in or have some assets in cash at times.
    An earlier post: "3 Former Star Funds to Avoid", a stunner by Steve Goldberg, which challenged DODGX exalted status, pointing to "deep flaws in the fund's stock picking" in 2008 and mediocre performance since. The article took its share of lashings from most, but not all, MFO readers.
    I lamented a bit on an earlier related post: "Dodge & Cox Balanced Regains Its Stride, Finally?" A look back at my decision to buy DODBX over VWELX in 2002. This post includes more recent entries describing HPQ's 13% plunge on Oct 3. scott weighed in on transient nature of defining value for technology companies. (This week HPQ had another 12% downer-day on suspected fraud disclosure over recent acquisition. Can you believe? This is Hewlett Packard for crying out loud. Good grief.) And fundalarm noted how Dodge & Cox doesn't appear to "have price targets at which point to book profits or cut losses," which again brings into question D&C's risk management philosophy.
    OK, stage set. I was very interested in looking at DODGX from a perspective both before and after the real estate collapse in 2008. With David's assertion that folks are more concerned about loses than gains, and VintageFreaks' comment about it's "WHEN you buy, not WHAT you buy," I looked at worst-case rolling performance, initiated every month over the periods noted, from DODGX's inception in Feb 65.
    The figure below illustrates one reason why everybody was clamoring to own shares in DODGX before 2008. Basically, its worst-case return beat SP500's worst-case return consistently over just about any period:
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    Note also that DODGX lost virtually no money for any 8-year or longer period, whereas an unlucky investor in SP500 could still be looking at nearly 20% loss, even after 9 years.
    Even longer term, depicted below, DODGX trounced SP500. Basically, the worst period for DODGX was substantially better than the worst period for SP500.
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    After 2007, however, an investor could have worse return in near-term with DODGX than with SP500:
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    But despite this near-term under-performance, an investor with DODGX for periods of about 9 years or more has still never lost money, even periods including 2008, whereas SP500 investors must have invested for periods of 12 years or more to avoid loss.
    OK, so that is worst-case DODGX versus worst-case SP500.
    Next, I compared DODGX relative to SP500 for same rolling periods. Basically, wanting to see, depending on WHEN, whether it was better to be in DODGX or SP500. So, below are comparisons of DODGX best and worst total returns relative to SP500 for rolling periods dating back to Feb 65 through to present Oct 12:
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    Clearly, there are periods when DODGX has under-performed the SP500, especially over the short-term. But then its periods of over-performance tend to be more impressive. Over its life, DODGX has bested the SP500 hands-down.
    Taking a closer look at WHEN, data from above two charts are tabulated below, along with ending month/year of the corresponding best and worst periods. At a glance, most of the best over-performance were during periods leading up to the real estate bubble in 2008, while most of the worst under-performance actually occurred in the years leading up the tech bubble in 2000.
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    Going still further, the chart below shows growth comparison from DODGX inception through 1987 market crash. Basically, for first 20 plus years of DODGX existence, it beat SP500 handsomely overall. Perhaps more important is that DODGX performed comparable to the market, within 2-4%, during the five or so significant down-markets during this time.
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    Then, during the next 20 years, shown below, DODGX had its most extraordinary performance, which surely helped establish the many recommendations for DODGX, by M*, Kiplinger, and others.
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    Leading up to late '90s, DODGX actually lagged the SP500 somewhat; in fact, that's where its worst total returns relative to SP500 actually occurred. But when the tech bubble popped in 2000, DODGX sailed-on through. While the SP500 lost 45% in the down-market from Sep 00 through Sep 02, DODGX lost nothing. In the five years after the bubble, it continued to handsomely beat the SP500. No doubt, DODGX's stellar reputation was born during this extraordinary period of performance. Everybody clamored to get in, AUM grew, and the fund closed. It had become the perfect equity fund, avoiding down-side losses, while over-performing in up-markets. Until, of course, 2007. The funny thing here is that DODGX lost only 9% more than the SP500 during the great recession, but its reputation--that of being the perfect equity fund--was tarnished, if not shattered.
    Just a few more comparisons, and I will stop, promise.
    The tabulation below shows a "batting average," basically number of times DODGX beat SP500 in rolling periods considered since Feb 65. On any given year, it has beaten SP500 more than 50% of time. More than 60% in any 2-year period. More than 70% any 7-year period. More than 80% in any 10-year period.
    The tabulation also shows the number of these periods that DODGX and SP500 have lost money. Since Feb 1965, SP500 has never lost money over any 12 year period or longer. DODGX has never lost money over any 10-year period. A closer look shows that it only lost 2% in its worst case 9-year period. In fact, there were only two 8-year periods out of 478 considered that DODGX lost money: the period ending Feb 09 when its total return was -13.2% and Mar 09 when it was -4.2%.
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  • Duff & Phelps Global Utility Inc.
    by looking at cefconnect.com, i can see right away that over 50% of this fund's quarterly distribution is a return of capital. this would make it a no go for me right away. also, the history of the fund is very short. I am sure there are other global utility plays you can use. If you don't insist on global, there is a very decent monthly paying US utility CEF that has been around forever. Very value oriented management. it's UTG: Reaves Utility Income. I remember when I was looking for a utility play several years ago, this was -- for me -- the best in class. I sold it earlier in the year at the record price and am thinking to re-enter at some point.
  • Dan Ivascyn continues steady purchases of Pimco Income Fund he manages
    I'm thinking, at best, PONDX treads water going forward. Capital appreciation has been the "wind beneath its sails" as interest rates have moved downward. Japan is about to go negative with their rates so there may still be some continued opportunity for capital appreciation in bond funds like PONDX.
    The yeild on PONDX is 6%ish...seems like a reasonable return for a multisector bond fund. Capital appreciation is another matter. Income fund managers like Ivanscyn will soon be tested with respect to their ability to navigate a raising interest rate environment and produce positive real returns. Instruments like floating rate bank loans, short term / high yield corporates, convertible securities, TIPS, maybe even dividend paying stocks might soon replace "what's working now". How do these bond managers reverse course without losing their mojo for a period of time? Low tide becomes slack tide before the water rising again.
    An article from Forbes back in 2010 discussed some of these raising rate options.
    how-to-protect-your-portfolio-from-rising-interest-rates
    Dan Fuss is a guy we should be listening to:

    4 investing guidelines from bond expert Dan Fuss:
    What's the Fuss Dan?
  • Mairs Power growth fund & a couple of reads
    http://www.kiplinger.com/columns/fundwatch/archive/mairs-power-growth-fund-for-bbh-core-select.html
    the next bubble
    http://www.mauldineconomics.com/images/uploads/pdf/mwo111912.pdf
    what's next for muni market
    http://www.uptilt.com/content/6433/What Next for the Municipal Market11 12 2012.pdf
    rbc wealth management - weekly read
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    Market Week: November 19, 2012
    The Markets
    Equities around the globe continued to slide, suffering four straight down days as both the United States and Europe grappled with fiscal cliffhangers. Despite some optimism at week's end, the Dow saw its fourth straight negative week. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq and small-cap Russell 2000 entered correction territory with declines of more than 10% since their September highs.
    Market/Index 2011 Close Prior Week As of 11/16 Week Change YTD Change
    DJIA 12217.56 12815.39 12588.31 -1.77% 3.03%
    Nasdaq 2605.15 2904.87 2853.13 -1.78% 9.52%
    S&P 500 1257.60 1379.85 1359.88 -1.45% 8.13%
    Russell 2000 740.92 795.02 776.28 -2.36% 4.77%
    Global Dow 1801.60 1881.43 1848.57 -1.75% 2.61%
    Fed. Funds .25% .25% .25% 0 bps 0 bps
    10-year Treasuries 1.89% 1.61% 1.58% -3 bps -31 bps
    Equities data reflect price changes, not total return.
    Last Week's Headlines
    Double dip: A second quarter of economic contraction pushed Europe back into recession for the second time in four years. The European Union's official statistics agency said gross domestic product fell 0.1% during Q3 after a 0.2% contraction in the previous quarter. The pace of contraction in Spain and Italy slowed and France's GDP rose for the first time since Q3 2011, while Germany's economic growth was more sluggish than in Q2.
    Greece fire: In the wake of Greece's narrow approval of new austerity measures, eurozone finance ministers and the International Monetary Fund clashed over whether to give the country a two-year extension (until 2022) to reduce its debt to the level required by its most recent bailout agreement. The extension is estimated to add €32.6 billion to Greece's tab with the IMF, the EU, and the European Central Bank.
    President Obama and congressional leaders opened discussions on a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. Both sides indicated they might pursue a two-phase approach by adopting small deficit reduction measures before January 1 while trying to develop guidelines for a more comprehensive agreement next year.
    The Chinese Communist Party rejected reform-minded candidates to lead its Politburo Standing Committee, considered the country's highest decision-making body, over the next decade in favor of more conservative candidates. Xi Jinping will replace Hu Jintao as party chief and China's de facto leader.
    The biggest jump in housing costs since March 2008, along with higher costs for clothing and airfare, helped push up the Consumer Price Index in October, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The 0.1% increase put overall consumer inflation at 2.2% for the last 12 months. Meanwhile, despite a 0.4% increase in foods, lower energy costs helped cut wholesale prices 0.2% for the month, leaving inflation at the wholesale level for the past year at 2.3%.
    Despite a 3% increase in October, mortgage foreclosures were 19% lower than the same time last year, according to RealtyTrac.® Also, the Mortgage Bankers Association said the number of households that were behind on their mortgage payments in the third quarter was at its lowest level in almost four years, though the delinquency rate varied dramatically among states.
    Outages caused by Hurricane Sandy hurt manufacturing activity measured by the Federal Reserve's Empire State and Philadelphia Fed November indices. The Philly Fed index hit -10.7, while the Empire State measure was at -5.2. Sandy also affected October retail sales, though the Commerce Department said it couldn't quantify how much of the 0.3% decline could be attributed to the storm. Sales were up 3.8% from a year ago.
    The Fed is considering using economic indicators, such as a target unemployment or inflation rate, rather than a calendar date to determine when to begin raising interest rates. Minutes of the Federal Open Market Committee's most recent meeting showed that most members also favored extending "Operation Twist" bond purchases past the program's scheduled December expiration date.
    British Petroleum will plead guilty to felony charges and pay $4.5 billion in penalties in connection with the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill as part of an agreement with the U.S. Justice Department. And a House subcommittee investigating MF Global Holdings' bankruptcy said that regulatory agencies had failed to share information that might have helped prevent the eighth largest bankruptcy in U.S. history.
    New technologies are expected not only to make the United States a net exporter of natural gas by 2020 but also to transform North America into a net oil exporter by 2035, according to the International Energy Agency. The agency's annual World Energy Outlook also said renewable energy sources could become the second largest global source of power generation by 2015 if development subsidies are continued. Finally, the IEA projects that as global energy demands increase by more than a third by 2035, Iraq would replace Russia as the world's second largest oil exporter and 90% of Middle East oil supplies would go to Asia.
    Eye on the Week Ahead
    European finance ministers will meet Tuesday to discuss whether to release €31.5 billion needed to make upcoming payments on Greek debt, and whether to disregard the IMF's concerns about relaxing the bailout agreement's terms. The Thanksgiving holiday could keep trading volumes light.
    Key dates and data releases: home resales (11/19); housing starts, meeting of EU finance ministers (11/20); leading economic indicators (11/21).
    Data sources: Includes data provided by Brounes & Associates. All information is based on sources deemed reliable, but no warranty or guarantee is made as to its accuracy or completeness. Neither the information nor any opinion expressed herein constitutes a solicitation for the purchase or sale of any securities, and should not be relied on as financial advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
    The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) is a price-weighted index composed of 30 widely traded blue-chip U.S. common stocks. The S&P 500 is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy. The NASDAQ Composite Index is a market-value weighted index of all common stocks listed on the NASDAQ stock exchange. The Russell 2000 is a market-cap weighted index composed of 2000 U.S. small-cap common stocks. The Global Dow is an equally weighted index of 150 widely traded blue-chip common stocks worldwide. Market indexes listed are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment.
  • Our Funds Boat, Week - .11%, YTD + 11.61%.....OK, I'll choose luck.....11-18-2012
    Howdy,
    A thank you to all who post the links, start and participate in the many fine commentaries woven into the message threads.
    For those who don't know; I ramble away about this and that, at least once each week.
    NOTE: For those who visit MFO, this portfolio is designed for near retirement, capital preservation and to stay ahead of inflation creep. This is not a buy and hold portfolio, and is subject to change on any given day; based upon perceptions of market directions. All assets in this portfolio are in tax-sheltered accounts; and any fund distributions are reinvested in the funds. Gains or losses are computed from actual account values.
    While looking around.....Short on time this week. Numbers have been updated to current data. Noting the obvious, many equity sectors were weak again this past week, with the exception of some Japanese areas; mostly due to weaker Yen currency. This situation may not remain for any longer term trend. Although one could presume that most bond sectors would have moved positive for the week, with the negative action in equities; only Friday had some broad sector positives in bonds. Exceptions for some of the week were muni's and longer term government issues. One may suspect a longer upward play in muni's, if enough money moves to this area to "avoid" higher investment area tax rates. Generally speaking, most active HY bond funds had losses between .20-.60%, indicating some reflection towards the weak equity sectors. Overall, most bond sectors performed their duty last week in helping to preserve capital. Too many investment areas remain a coin toss, eh? Going towards the yearend and the unknowns; "luck" of where one's portfolio is positioned will likely be the "main" guiding factor for shaping the next six weeks investment returns to modify one's final YTD returns. We're at the investment casino, at this time, in my opinion; whether one recalls buying the bus ticket or not.
    The data/numbers below have been updated.
    As to sector rotations below (Fidelity funds); for the past week: (Note: any given fund in any of these sectors will have varing degrees of performance based upon where the manager(s) choose to be invested and will not directly reflect upon your particular fund holdings from other vendors.) Sidenote: The average weekly return of 200 combined Fidelity retail funds across all sectors (week avg = - 1.12%, YTD + 9.04%).
    --- U.S. equity - 2.6% through - .80%, week avg. = - 1 .5% YTD = + 10.3%
    --- Int'l equity - 2.5% through + 1.2%, week avg. = - 1 .7% YTD = + 9.7%
    --- Select eq. sectors - 7.7% through + 1.3%, week avg. = - 1.7% YTD = + 9.9%
    --- U.S./Int'l bonds - .40% through + .22%, week avg. = - .03% YTD = + 4.1%
    --- HY bonds - .86% through - .20%, week avg. = - .51% YTD = + 11%
    A Decent Overview, M* 1 Month through 5 Year, Multiple Indexes
    You may consider our portfolio to be quite boring, but you may be assured that it moves and bends each and every day; from forces beyond our control.
    I have added a few blips related to our portfolio and market observations at the below SELLs/BUYs and Portfolio Thoughts.
    SELLs/BUYs THIS PAST WEEK: = NONE.

    Portfolio Thoughts:
    Our holdings had a - .11 % move this past week. We'll continue to watch; but do not have plans at this time, to enter into equity areas.
    b> Still plodding along, and we will retain the below write from previous weeks; as what we are watching, still applies.

    --- commodity pricing, especially the energy and base materials areas; copper and related.
    --- the $US broad basket value, and in particular against the Euro and Aussie dollar (EU zone and China/Asia uncertainties).
    --- price directions of U.S. treasury's, German bunds, U.K. gilts, Japanese bonds; and continued monitoring of Spanish/Italian bond pricing/yield.
    --- what we are watching to help understand the money flows: SHY, IEF, TLT, TIPZ, STPZ, LTPZ, LQD, EMB, HYG, IWM, IYT & VWO; all of which offer insights reflected from the big traders as to the quality/risk, or lack of quality/risk; in various equity/bond sectors.
    The Funds Boat is at anchor, riding in the small waves, watching the weather and behind the breakwater barrier. To the high praise of MFO and the members, it is very difficult to find a topic to note here that has not been placed into the discussion boards. Excellence, as usual.
    I have retained the following links for those who may choose to do their own holdings comparison against the fund types noted.
    The first two links to Bloomberg are for their list of balanced/flexible funds; although I don't always agree with the placement of fund styles in their categories.
    Bloomberg Balanced
    Bloomberg Flexible
    These next two links are for conservative and moderate fund leaders YTD, per MSN.
    Conservative Allocation
    Moderate Allocation
    A reflection upon the links above. We attempt to establish a "benchmark" for our portfolio to help us "see" how our funds are performing. Aside from viewing many funds within the balanced/flexible funds rankings (the above links), a quick and dirty group of 5 funds (below) we watch for psuedo benchmarking are the following:
    ***Note: these week/YTD's per M*
    VWINX .... - .57% week, YTD = + 8.42%
    PRPFX .... - .78% week, YTD = + 5.01%
    SIRRX ..... + .04% week, YTD = + 6.64%
    TRRFX .... - .74% week, YTD = + 7.96%
    VTENX ... - .62% week, YTD = + 7.31%

    Such are the numerous battles with investments attempting to capture a decent return and minimize the risk.
    We live and invest in interesting times, eh? Hey, I probably forgot something; and hopefully the words make some sense. Comments and questions always welcomed.
    Good fortune to you, yours and the investments.
    Take care,
    Catch
    ---Below is what M* x-ray has attempted to sort for our portfolio, as of Nov. 1, 2012 ---
    From what I find, M* has a difficult time sorting out the holdings with bond funds.
    U.S./Foreign Stocks 1.9%
    Bonds 93.9% ***
    Other 4.2%
    Not Classified 0.00%
    Avg yield = 3.99%
    Avg expense = .57%
    ***about 18% of the bond total are high yield category (equity related cousins)

    ---This % listing is kinda generic, by fund "name"; which doesn't always imply the holdings, eh?
    -Investment grade bond funds 28.2%
    -Diversified bond funds 22.4%
    -HY/HI bond funds 14.5%
    -Total bond funds 32.4%
    -Foreign EM/debt bond funds .6%
    -U.S./Int'l equity/speciality funds 1.9%
    This is our current list: (NOTE: I have added a speciality grouping below for a few of fund types)
    ---High Yield/High Income Bond funds
    FAGIX Fid Capital & Income
    SPHIX Fid High Income
    FHIIX.LW Fed High Income
    DIHYX TransAmerica HY
    ---Total Bond funds
    FTBFX Fid Total
    PTTRX Pimco Total
    ---Investment Grade Bonds
    ACITX Amer. Cent. TIPS Bond
    DGCIX Delaware Corp. Bd
    FBNDX Fid Invest Grade
    FINPX Fidelity TIPS Bond
    OPBYX Oppenheimer Core Bond
    ---Global/Diversified Bonds
    FSICX Fid Strategic Income
    FNMIX Fid New Markets
    DPFFX Delaware Diversified
    LSBDX Loomis Sayles
    PONDX Pimco Income fund (steroid version)
    PLDDX Pimco Low Duration (domestic/foreign)
    ---Speciality Funds (sectors or mixed allocation)
    FRIFX Fidelity Real Estate Income (bond/equity mix)
    ---Equity-Domestic/Foreign
    NONE outright, with the exception of equities held inside some of the above funds.
  • True or False: "Whole market index funds should be treated as growth funds in a portfolio...
    ....since they are largely momentum driven".
    This is basically the way I play index funds in my own portfolio, was interested in tapping into this boards' collective human capital for points/counterpoints, and debate.
    Cheers
  • Cost Control
    Reply to @Old_Joe:
    Hi Old Joe,
    I’m sure you did well with American Funds; I hired them in the early 1990s and they did deliver positive Alpha for me for good parts of a decade. I’ve adopted a more passive oriented approach more recently.
    The Capital organization emphasized deep research in all their products and developed their talent internally. Given Charles Ellis’s penchant for passive investing, I was amazed at how fairly he detailed the Capital system in his book. He honestly believed that Capital managed to identify, develop, and maintain an exceptional cohort of researchers and money managers to successfully execute the challenging active management task.
    He concluded that the firm achieved low turnover rates because of a carefully crafted financial incentive program, and an industry admired corporate culture whereby innovative thinking was encouraged and rewarded.
    Ellis writing kind words about an active fund management operation sort of unbalanced me. My cognitive equilibrium was perturbed, like seeing one of M. C. Escher’s staircase drawings. Here is a great Link that presents some of Escher’s more famous physics defying drawings:
    http://www.google.com/images?q=escher+waterfall&hl=en&gbv=2&gs_l=heirloom-hp.3..0l10.1636.9414.0.15474.12.6.0.6.6.0.228.916.0j5j1.6.0...0.0...1c.1.rpA423tePJc&oq=escher+waterfall
    I particularly like the Escher waterfall picture at:
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.lipson/escher/lego_waterfall_1600.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.andrewlipson.com/escher/waterfall.html&usg=__62R1IQmU2_39xJal9W2IRSjn1E0=&h=1600&w=1394&sz=539&hl=en&start=3&zoom=1&tbnid=-MMhbr3uuv3fvM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=131&ei=b-mhUJLDI4Hs2QXMuIC4DQ&prev=/images?q=escher+waterfall&hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&itbs=1
    Enjoy and thanks for your comments. Escher’s work wows me.
    Best Wishes.
  • Cost Control
    Reply to @bee:
    Hi Bee,
    I too was fascinated by Charles Ellis’s assessment of mutual fund management fees. I didn’t think it was possible, but Ellis out-Bogled cost containment master John Bogle himself with respect to cost analysis.
    John Bogle forever cautioned that cost matters should be judged against prospective annual returns. A 1 % management fee is less onerous when a 10 % annual return is expected and delivered than when a 5 % yearly return is realized.
    Charles Ellis proposes a more challenging demand since you already own your portfolio, and are entrusting it to your fund manager's protection against the vicissitudes of general market uncertainty. He suggests that the fee schedule should be coupled to returns measured against a relevant benchmark. Little chance of that ever happening.
    Ellis has long been a staunch ally and advocate of passive Index investing. I was shocked when he wrote a book, “Capital” , in 2004 that chronicled the history of The Capitol Group Companies, financial and investment advisors for the American Funds family. I found it unlikely that Ellis would elect to do this task, and even more unlikely that Capital would enthusiastically participate in this company biography, given Ellis’s preference bias and passion for passive fund management. Strange bedfellows indeed.
    Yet Ellis produced a book that extolled the virtues of the long term investment outlook, the team management concept, the shunning of investment superstars, and publicity that characterizes Capital and American Funds long, and mostly distinguished, record. Given a long enough time horizon, bad outcomes damage all investors: private, professional, and institutional alike. Recently, American Funds suffered that regression to the mean.
    I love analogies. They help in the understanding of a complex landscape and provide stories that facilitate memory. Your toll booth analogy serves both those desirable purposes. It is excellent. I will certainly remember it, and might use it. Congratulations.
    Thanks for your contribution, especially for your perceptive analogy.
    Best Wishes.
  • AQR Risk Parity HV/MV now available
    Reply to @catch22:
    I would recommend that your friend's first priority should be to do whatever it takes to convince himself that "capital preservation and appreciation" are NOT the goals he should set if he wants to satisfy his needs/wants...
    If he were planning to spontaneously blow it all in one shot on a small yacht (let's say to impress some gold-digger he met unexpectedly) at some point then capital preservation and appreciation would be a worthy goal, but given the circumstances you described what his goal should be is a stream of regular income that can be derived from some combination of dividends and capital gains...and towards this end I agree with the perspective of David Swensen that the safety of an investment portfolio used in this way is determined by the stability of the dividends (and that doesn't mean past dividends or dividend yield as naively conceived of by some investors, but the likelihood of stable dividends being paid in the future) and the risk, by and large, determined by the amount of capital gains you intend to siphon from the pockets of the greater fools who may or may not materialize to take the other side of your trades.
    So what one ideally wants to do in this situation is establish a safe floor of dividend income (which could include maturing bond principal) to satisfy one's needs and then use the principal to finance various arbitrage strategies to siphon whatever money might be left on the table by the greater fools, should they dare show up to play. There are many ways to employ arbitrage depending on the amount of time and skill you have at your disposal, but the simplest way to capture arbitrage profits I'm aware of that can be employed by an unsophisticated investor is, for a given level of future dividend income, to simply increase the volatility of one's portfolio as much as possible (which acts kind of like a bucket under a leaky roof because as volatility increases all arbitragers face more and more difficulty and their profits tend to spill over the edges and pool at the most volatile corners of the market...this is the source of the so called "risk premium" which really doesn't have much to do with risk at all).
    So your question was what funds do I recommend your friend use to do this specifically? Well one way to implement it would be with one of Vanguard's Managed Payout funds...VPGFX, VPGDX, and VPDFX: Get the distributions direct deposited into his checking account, sign up for online mutual fund statements, shred/forget his password, and let the distributions grow (in case of VPGFX) or not (in case of VPDFX). This is not the only way to do it, but the key is realizing that if your need is a stream of income then your goal should be to grow a stream of income, not shoot yourself in the foot by fretting over irrelevant capital fluctuations.
  • AQR Risk Parity HV/MV now available
    Howdy BannedfromBogleheads,
    You wrote:
    "And on the basis of my best understanding of prudent investment strategy I have to admit that volatility aversion does certainly seem to be an indication of stupidity because all the investment theory I know says that volatility is rewarded...which is, unfortunately, commonly misinterpreted as the impossible contradiction that "risk is rewarded"; Risk is not rewarded (it can't be because, as you noted, risk is defined from loss which is the opposite of reward and, thus, it's logically impossible for an investment to simultaneously tend towards both risk and reward), volatility is rewarded and so the key to successful investing is to minimize risk while maximizing volatility."
    I am in a position of helping a friend with some retirement decisions; and attempting to define your above thoughts as they might apply to his monetary investments during his retirement.
    He is being early retired due to the elimination of his current position; along with other co-workers.
    He just turned age 65, has no debt, owes a small house that suits his needs and has always been prudent with his spending. He is divorced and his former wife has signed off against his small pension, so that he will receive his full amount. He was not part of a union for his work; so he will need to pay for supplemental insurance plans to offset some fees within Medicare A and B, as well as provide his own prescription medication insurance, which will total about $260/month.
    What he will have going forward:
    --- $1,000/month gross pension
    --- $1,800/month net Social Security (if he started today)
    --- About $200,000 total in IRA accounts (includes 401k rollover)
    His monthly pension will be totally consumed, and more, from supplemental health insurance, house & auto insurance, utilities, food, auto gas, etc. He will also attempt to maintain an emergency cash acct. at his credit union.
    He, of course; prefers to not withdraw any monies from the IRA account until the required minimum distributions after age 70.5 years.
    Based upon your statement above, what 4-6 mutual funds could he use to provide capital preservation and also have some captial appreciation of his IRA funds?
    Regards,
    Catch
  • Building a portfolio for income
    I editted this to "fund discussion status" because of all the great "fund discussion" going on here...
    A Fidelity article:
    building-portfolio-for-income
    "If you are saving for retirement, you should be taking a total return approach that considers both income and capital appreciation. If you’re in retirement, you likely have some guaranteed1 income streams like Social Security, a pension, or an annuity. But you may also want or need to generate income off your investment portfolio. And regardless of your stage in life, there may be times you want to generate income for a specific goal..."
    Some income investment sectors to consider:
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  • couple of reads
    Hi MikeM,
    I do believe some of the equity selling is related to possible tax changes for cap. gains; and folks taking profits with some of the better areas of equity returns for 2012.
    This could apply to both individual stocks and/or etf's/active mutual funds.
    If the sells become large enough within some areas; they may come back in to buy in 2013.
    If some of the sellers are looking at locking in gains of 12-30% on some holdings and are concerned about what else may be coming down the road with the "fiscal cliff" stuff; why not sell and sit on the money for a few months?
    Just a thought.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • Okay, I'll be the first to start the equity sell-off
    Someone else mentioned HQH and HQL as CEF options in terms of health care. They are unique in that they can dip (to considerable degree) into private equity health care names. They also provide a significant yield, although I believe a good deal of that is likely return-of-capital.
    The market seems a tad ....... displeased this morning.
    Edited to add: went past -300 briefly.