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Nuveen Tradewinds Value Opportunities (NVOAX) Fund

edited March 2012 in Fund Discussions
The news is the manager David Iben has left. Should we be selling on the news?

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  • I forgot to post this the other day after I saw it. I think it'll send a lot of people away from the fund - Iben did consistently very well and his replacements are unknowns.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/03/13/bloomberg_articlesM0U8O06VDKHT01-M0UHO.DTL
  • If you ask me absolutely. Then again the reason I did not invest in the fund after selling other funds and raising cash is because David Iben did not have any personal investment in the fund.

    What I would do is follow David Iben if I can. If you hear of Iben funds,...
  • edited March 2012
    Reply to @VintageFreak: He's joining a hedge fund.
  • Reply to @scott: Ibartman passed along word of Iben's departure earlier this week. According to the story he shared, Iben was hired by Jeff Vinik - former Fidelity Magellan manager - to work with his hedge fund firm, Vinik Asset Management.

    The story: http://www.mfwire.com/article.asp?template=article&wireid=2&storyID=39454&bhcp=1.

    For what it's worth, David
  • Hi Carefree ...

    Thank you for the update. I own a sister fund, NWGAX, that Mr. Iben also managed.
    I have been following it closely as it has lagged some other funds with a global focus that I own. Perhaps, his departure is the reason. I invested in the fund because Mr. Iben's tallent and not so much the fund itself. With this in mind, it will be gone form my portfolio tomorrow.

    As a replacement I am looking at a fund by Janus, JORAX. I have it currently under review ... but, I most likely will wait until a pull back in the market before I start to position into a replacement fund.

    Thanks again for the update .... It is most appreciated.

    Good Investing,
    Skeeter
  • Linked below is the Bloomberg news release ...

    http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/15226?type=bloomberg

    Skeeter
  • I think the big question is not, "whether we should sell on the news", but where should we put the proceeds. Anyone have any ideas of similiar funds?
  • Reply to @3yards: The four funds that M* identifies as "most similar" to Tradewinds, based on a combination of portfolio and performance:
    BlackRock Large Cap Core Plus "A" (BALPX)
    Leuthold Select Industries (LSLTX)
    Gabelli Dividend Growth (GABBX)
    Vice (VICEX)
    Screened for portfolio similarity alone, you'd add Fidelity Tax-Managed Stock (FTXMX).

    For a value-leaning large cap fund, their analysts would recommend Sequoia (SEQUX) and Yacktman (YACKX). Over the past 3 and 5 years, YACKX leads the group with Sequoia and Tradewinds pretty close in performance.

    For what it's worth,

    David
  • I don't own it, but I think David Winters at Wintergreen is an excellent manager (WGRNX) and is similarly global. WGRNX has not outperformed NVOAX overall, but has outperformed it over the last couple of years by a pretty decent amount. Hopefully the linky below will work.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NVOAX+Interactive#chart4:symbol=nvoax;range=2y;compare=wgrnx;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
  • Reply to @scott: Link worked for me, just fyi. David
  • edited March 2012
    Thank a lot for your helpful comments, Mr. Snowball and Scott. I will look into all the funds that you mentioned.
  • YACKX looks very interesting. Actually YAFFX is similiar, but NTF at Fidelity and TDA. WGRNX is interesting, but has a very high expense ratio. I am also looking into Berwyn Income (BERIX), although it is different than NWGRX and is also a transaction fee fund.
  • edited March 2012
    The Smartmoney Risk "Scatterplot" indicated that NVOAX was quite similar to an ING fund (3 Yr Risk and Return).

    http://www.smartmoney.com/quote/nvoax/?story=risk

    An observation that is confirmed by the following from Yahoo:

    http://tinyurl.com/NVOAX-PAVIX

    But a check on the ING website indicated the source of the similarity (and that fund is closed)... ;^(

    http://www.ingfunds.com/MutualFunds/profile/index.htm?f=126&tab=Overview

    oops...
  • Something a bit less expensive than WGRNX is ARTGX which is another good global fund.

    There isn't 1 single fund that's close to Nuveen Tradewinds but since I have some global funds including IVWIX, ARTGX and RIVFX --- I should be fairly well covered and am ok to drop Nuveen Tradewinds. Iben seems to like Mining/Materials/Industrials as his Global funds have a sizable and top allocation to that sector. RIVFX (Royce Global Value) for me provides that similar Mining/Materials/Industrial sector allocation which they also have as a sizable and top sector holding.

  • rmt
    edited March 2012
    I thought of watching for a while but i am selling it on Monday.

    Reason: M* has a new front page article saying that a lot of his staff are also leaving in June.
    http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/article.aspx?id=541029
    I will be adding to ARTGX,SGIIX and SFGIX (upon brokerage availabilty) ,once market pulls back.
  • Reply to @rmt: For what interest it holds, I got word tonight that Seafarer is available NTF from Scottrade starting now.

    David
  • That's great David.Hopefully,it will be available at Fidelity soon.
  • Not mentioned in the articles previously cited, is the CEF Iben managed: Nuveen Global Value (JGV), which until last year had a stellar record.
  • edited March 2012
    Right - and has David Iben been distracted lately over the past several months while being recruited or interviewing with this Hedge Fund firm?

    YTD Returns:

    NWGRX...+6.34% (Nuveen Tradewinds Global All-cap)
    JGV.........-0.83% (Nuveen Tradewinds Global Value Opportunities)

    ARTGX: +9.66% (Artisan Global Value)
    TBGVX: +9.75% (Tweedy Browne Global Value)
    DODWX: +15.10% (Dodge & Cox Global Stock)
    OAKGX: +17.02% (Oakmark Global)
    PTHDX: +9.41% (Pimco Pathfinder)
    RIVFX: +14.36% (Royce Global Value)
    RGVDX: +15.55% (Royce Global Dividend Value)
    VHGEX: +14.20% (Vanguard Global Equity)

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