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What are your "go to" Bond funds?

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  • edited February 8
    As usual, disregard the noise and follow markets in real time.
    In mid April 2025, after I was out for several weeks I posted that for the first time in my life I invested directly in an international fund. A couple months later, I increased it to 99+% of all our money. It is still there.
    For "sub" cash HOSIX and SCFZX have done well.
    See the chart vs PAAA, and AGZD.

    https://schrts.co/qInPfZAf
  • DrVenture said:

    For now, I'll take the 25% better return of TBUX.

    I was looking at TBUX as a MMKT substitute as well. The slim margin of improvement is not guaranteed for 2026, but we have to try. Receiving only ~3.5% on cash will not cut it in this environment, and we all know that the buffoon would like to cut rates further.

    When I go to buy these things called "groceries" (such a strange word to some, groceries) or durable goods and prices keep going up, it puts pressure on to reach for yield.
  • edited February 8
    Inflation has not subsided contrary to what was promised early last year.
    The current administration insists on a much lower fed funds rate.
    This imprudent policy, if implemented, will only exacerbate inflation.
    Higher real yields generated by MMKT and "near-cash" funds are more important in the current environment.
  • On a loaf of good bakery bread here in Northern CA- from $5.50 to $6.00 in one week. That's about 10% folks, and just one item of many groceries that are going up... up... up...
  • Bond funds: I've used FALN and was not disappointed, but the yield remains below my other junky stuff in PRCPX and TUHYX.

    FALN wins by Total Return, though. (1-year chart.)
  • edited February 8
    FALN is interesting in that it is composed of high-yield bonds which were previously rated
    investment grade (aka "fallen angels").
  • We prefer active bond managers/funds over index fund. Our 401(k) has only BND and TSP G funds. In IRAs, we invest in multi-sector PIMIX, PYLD, and RSIIX (MFO considered it as flexible income), oversea DODLX and NRDCX.

    This year, we are moving away from bank loan funds and we turned more cautious. Still think about EM bonds.
  • When we switched 401k's my only core option was BCOIX. Baird Core Plus Bond Fund

    When I left that company, when rolled over I used BCOSX in my IRA's.

    I'm in my 40's and a simple core fund is all I really care to use at this point.
  • All, fyi ---

    I was about to move a large slug of moneys from 3.5% Fido mmf to TBUX but had a meeting upcoming with my Fidelity 'adviser' (no fee, no pressure, just some veteran kid, so to speak, also fiduciary, who likes to talk every year or so; not sure I have acted before on anything he discussed).

    He said, "I hate to use the word annuity but since you have so much our 3.5% mmf, we offer a bond annuity of varying lengths, shortest is 3y, currently this week 4.4% guaranteed, next week resets lower lower [this part too I believe], and you can access 10% anytime no penalty and the penalty is only 7% if you need to bail. Through the Fidelity Insurance Network."

    Anyway, so I am researching that. FWIW. Providers are Fidelity Investments Life Insurance and also Guardian, MassMutual, Nationwide, New York Life, Pacific Life, USAA, and Western & Southern.

    I don't know minimums but 3y is short enough that I will be considering a few hundred thou. I think. If I proceed. Just fyi.
  • edited March 16
    Be aware that your taxable money will become tax-deferred money with the usual restrictions - 10% penalty and taxes before 59.5.

    Once in annuity, you can do 1035 exchanges among providers.
  • Tomorrow I'll be going to USFR in the IRA.
  • This is with a Roth
  • "the penalty is only 7% if you need to bail."

    While we can debate whether a penalty is small if it is "only" 7%, I have a different concern with "only". Most of the SPDAs offered by Fidelity are Market Value Adjustment (MVA) annuities.
    https://www.annuity.org/annuities/rates/market-value-adjustment/

    A market value adjustment makes an annuity behave like a bond in terms of interest rate risk. If you have a 4% bond and rates go to 5%, your principal goes down. Similarly, if you have a 4% fixed rate annuity and rates go to 5%, you'll get less than your original investment (minus the 7% penalty) if you cash out early.

    Of course if rates fall, then you'll get back more than your original investment (minus the 7% penalty).

    In short, MVA adds interest rate risk if you're thinking about the early withdrawal "escape clause."
  • k, tnx; not really thinking about any such thing; thought the penalty was lower than other annuities but evidently standard; would not undertake without planning / committing for the 3y; amount will be ~20% of our egg

    The appeal was the rate and the short period, that's all.
  • @msf

    It sounds like the Fido advisor to @davidmoran was talking about MYGAs rather than SPDAs. MYGAs have a fixed interest rate for the life of the annuity. Many allow you to withdraw up to 10% of the proceeds each year without penalty (though it will be taxable). Many MYGAs also have riders that allow you to withdraw the entire amount of the annuity without penalty in case of serious illness.
  • edited March 18
    Getting back on track. I have a big bond fund watchlist @ M*. I own none at the moment. It seems that the best return YTD is EGRIX with 4.62%. Though YTD it has dropped to ~4.6% total return in the last couple weeks.

    My list is by no means all-inclusive.



  • @DrVenture. I may be mistaken but is FSAMX a bond fund? Two sources I checked show 0% Bonds.
  • edited March 18
    @LarryB. Thank you for that correction. How it got on my bond watchlist, I can only assume is that I mistyped the ticker for something else.

    I will edit my post.


  • To be clear, the YTD return has declined by ~30% recently not the fund value. EGRIX is up 20% over the past year. Morningstar classifies as Nontraditional Bond fund and it's one of my alt holdings.

    @DrVenture
    DrVenture said:

    "Getting back on track. I have a big bond fund watchlist @ M*. I own none at the moment. It seems that the best return YTD is EGRIX with 4.62%. Though it has dropped by ~half in the last couple weeks."

  • edited March 18
    Oh yeah, my loose wording strikes again. Too much multitasking, not enough proof reading!
    I need a "do over" today. Just not thinking clearly at all.

    Fixed. I meant that YTD total return has dropped quite a bit.
    @DavidF
  • If you are looking to compare MYGAs, I suggest perusing 'stantheannuityman.com' - he provides online MYGA yield/rate quotes. While I've never purchased any annuity, I do visit his website to get a sense of what the annuity market is doing.
    Good luck.
  • edited March 18
    Edmond said:

    If you are looking to compare MYGAs, I suggest perusing 'stantheannuityman.com' - he provides online
    MYGA yield/rate quotes. While I've never purchased any annuity, I do visit his website to get a sense of
    what the annuity market is doing.
    Good luck.

    Stan the Annuity Man is quite the character!
  • edited March 19
    MrRuffles said:



    It sounds like the Fido advisor to @davidmoran was talking about MYGAs rather than SPDAs.

    SPDA this is
  • SPDA means Single Premium Deferred Annuity. You g[i]ve a lump sum to the annuity company [for] a Deferred Annuity: a Multi-Year Guaranteed Annuity [MYGA] or a Fixed Index Annuity
    https://www.stantheannuityman.com/learn/unpacking-deferred-annuities-spda-fpda-mva
  • Well, SPDA is a form of annuitization (typically lifetime but can be for finite term), make no mistakes about it. "D" only means that annuitization is deferred.

    Deferred-income-annuities (DIAs) have been made famous by Bonilla-Day and there is lot of PR behind selling them while the iron is hot. IMO, they may be useful some purposes, but be careful in putting lot of money into it without reading the entire prospectus, character-by-character, that @davidrmoran is capable of doing.
  • capable, possibly; willing, not even close

    don't know how the compounding is done, but should come out to ~13%-14% total interest after 3y
  • Deferred-income-annuities (DIAs) ...

    I don't think many of us in here are churchy-types. Many denominations push these things to offer supplemental income for those who need it in addition to SS and perhaps church pension. I tried to arrange it, but the local church business manager did not have a clue. She sent me to call the appropriate people in the building known as the God-box in NYC. I did. They sent me the wrong stuff to get things rolling; I gave up.
  • @PressmUP. Thanks for sharing that link. Confirming what I am seeing in my our stuff. Every day.
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