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Bulls Only: Every Wall Street Analyst Now Predicts a Stock Rally

Take it as you will, but imo it probably at least warrants some caution. Per BBG:

At the big banks and the boutique investment shops, an optimistic consensus has taken hold: the US stock market will rally in 2026 for a fourth straight year, marking the longest winning streak in nearly two decades.

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But after three years when the equity market’s rip-roaring run made a mockery of any bearish calls, sell-side strategists are marching in lockstep optimism, with the average year-end S&P 500 forecast implying another 9% gain next year. Not a single one of the 21 prognosticators surveyed by Bloomberg News is predicting a decline.

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“The pessimists have just been wrong for so long that people are kind of tired of that schtick,” said veteran market strategist and longtime bull Ed Yardeni. He expects the S&P to finish next year at 7,700 — up 11% from Friday’s close — yet even he finds the lack of dissent a little concerning.

“That’s where my counter instincts come out: Things have been going my way for so long that it is kind of worrying that everyone else seems to have become optimistic,” he said. “Pessimism is on the out right now.”

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Full article @ https://archive.ph/7it02

Comments

  • From where is the value being sucked? I wish the investment could be in conversion to alternative energy sources rather than consumption of even more non-renewable (and dirty) natural resources. Can politics and tax policies, ala government, replace value and constructive innovation? (Admittedly, it could be I am just too narrow to see the big picture.) Gimme some value that I can see.
  • From X/Twitter LINK

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  • Warren Buffett: “Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful."

    The bears had been beaten down and have now totally disappeared.
  • a2z
    edited December 29
    i dont see an overwhelming amount of factors against the typical jan effect.
    but it may not last the entire q1 2026.

    https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/discussion/65194/jan-effect-2026#latest

    i suspect today's broad dumping of precious metals is a play to capture 2026 equity gains.
  • edited December 29
    @rforno
    Excellent thread. I have no real opinion, per se. I can see arguments that this can go on longer than is rational. And arguments that it is a reasonable proposition. And arguments that valuations matter. And/or that a "backfill scenario" can happen while tech simply remains rather static.

    I would add that 9% return, with +/- a couple percent, may be equivalent to a good MS bond fund in 2026. As a possible counterpoint to a more risky approach.
  • edited December 29
    a2z said:

    i dont see an overwhelming amount of factors against the typical jan effect.
    but it may not last the entire q1 2026.

    https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/discussion/65194/jan-effect-2026#latest

    i suspect today's broad dumping of precious metals is a play to capture 2026 equity gains.

    Interesting.

    I am prepared to go in several directions. A portfolio with lots of cash. A strong FI component. A value shift in 2025. Plenty of legacy tech. I feel pretty comfortable watching how things evolve.

    My YTD return @ 62% equity is ~16.5%. Standing pat for now. Official retirement in 6 months and counting.

  • edited 4:38PM
    Statistics show that the S&P 500 has been positive in over 80% of the years since 1980. Despite this, most, or even all so called “experts” have been wrong repeatedly (see link). The takeaway is simple: being consistently bearish is a losing strategy most of the time.

    Given this track record, it’s hard to understand why people continue to read or post market predictions when history shows they are largely unreliable.

    Warren Buffett famously said, “Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful.” While catchy, this advice is often overstated. If you had sold at any point over the last 15 years because “others were greedy,” you would likely have underperformed the market, unless you had near-perfect timing.

    Markets have been labeled “overvalued” for years (= greedy investors), yet they continued to deliver strong returns. Even Buffett himself has been accumulating cash over the past three years, during which the S&P 500 gained roughly 90%. For most investors, that cash-heavy positioning would have resulted in significant underperformance.
  • Interesting that a supposed "bonds only" investor comes here to pound the table on the S&P and tell us how stupid we all are.
  • edited 6:18PM
    @JD_co Interesting? Or entirely predictable? I don't actually read anything that he posts. He takes "mansplaining" and repetition to an entirely new stratospheric level.

    Such "education" would be far more relevant on an Investing 101 forum. Some folks cannot read a room and love pontification as if it were a sport.

    I should start a thread that trolls him in, then let an AI keep him busy for months.
  • He is the sole reason why I keep asking for an IGNORE button here at MFO.
  • UMich Consumer Confidence is Low, Which is Bullish
    Part of the reason why low consumer sentiment are bullish is that such readings usually arise from a condition of seeing a bad economy, which the Federal Reserve then steps in to do something about. We have had 3 rate cuts in 2025, and now the Fed has started up QE5 (although they are not calling it that yet). Those are bullish conditions for both the stock market and the actual economy. It should lead to a rebound in the consumer confidence data, and that should help keep the bull market going.
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  • edited 9:03PM
    i suspect today's broad dumping of precious metals is a play to capture 2026 equity gains.
    The precious metals have rebounded to 80% of yesterday 5.6% loss.

    The circular investment and concentrated AI stocks may present challenges to hit new high. 2022 was the turning point of new lows for both stocks and bonds simultaneously. And that was only 3 years ago.

    Edit: . Seriously doubt that he made outstanding gain in 2022. Even for those who were 100% in cash, money market yield was only about 1%. The yield curve did not invert until the FED raised the interest rate. Very few bond funds had positive gain.
  • edited 8:12PM
    bee said:

    UMich Consumer Confidence is Low, Which is Bullish

    Part of the reason why low consumer sentiment are bullish is that such readings usually arise from a condition of seeing a bad economy, which the Federal Reserve then steps in to do something about. We have had 3 rate cuts in 2025, and now the Fed has started up QE5 (although they are not calling it that yet). Those are bullish conditions for both the stock market and the actual economy. It should lead to a rebound in the consumer confidence data, and that should help keep the bull market going.
    umich_consumer_confidence_is_low_which_is_bullish
    I totally can agree with this. It is also said that lower rates are a sign of a weak economy, and no one should really desire that. Not sure, if these two things are in agreement or not.

    Also much higher prices, with no end in sight, may also drive low consumer sentiment, I would suppose. Making context relevant.
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