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Do I need to see an occupational hypnotherapist

Maybe 2008 and 2020 shellacked me into “Scared Straight” attitude that made me fearful of taking risks.
When markets are hot, I realize that markets generally go up, so best to stay fully invested. When markets start going down I think why didn’t I buy protection. Even when I am following disciplined strategy I can’t fully commit. For example, on day in 2020 I was watching VIX explode above 50 and bought double SPY and sold few hours later when VIX fell. Easy 9% for that trade, but not enough funds risked. “Most of the hedge funds on opposite side of my trade must be smarter than me”.
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  • Professional traders (and athletes) consult with psychologists to function at a higher level. So, it is not a bad idea for retail investors as well. One has to evaluate ROI on such an investment.

    At the end of the day, you have to execute on knowledge (about yourself) however you obtain it. IMO, only 5% of success depends on knowledge and the rest depends on execution.
  • It's important to know your risk tolerance and then operate within it.

    And not to overthink what could-have or would-have.
  • The Psychology of Trafing is a good book I read many moons ago which I recommend to people who want to understand emotional techniques to deal with trading. This is not the same as investing for which you are better off listening to munger interviews.
  • edited December 9
    I've lost a sizable amount of $$ on UVXY so not playing that game again. I prefer LS funds now to hedge.
  • Yikes. UVXY's been really Ultra the last 4 years: -88%, -45%, -88%, -54% ytd.
  • Made me giggle. So many absurd, over-specialized specialties these days people call themselves just about anything. Even "they," when there's but one person there...
  • edited December 10
    but in the spirit of this convo, i am grappling with a nice problem to have. there will be significant travel expenses in 2025 for us. the good news is that we can afford it by saving plus taking, rather than reinvesting dividends. but oh, how i hate to part with money...
  • edited December 10
    Languages need a singular third person pronoun that refers to either male or female when, say, what you're going on about refers to either, or you just don't know. I mean, how many times can you say or write "he or she" and "him or her" before you wanna scream for mercy. It's easier to say "they" in those cases, but it never seems right because it's plural.
  • AndyJ said:

    Languages need a singular third person pronoun that refers to either male or female. I mean, how many times can you say or write "he or she" and "him or her" before you just wanna scream for mercy. It's easier to say "they" in those cases, but it never seems right because it's plural.

    Correct! but it's become a political agenda thing, too.
  • edited December 10
    Right, and it probably wouldn't get so much political traction if we had that missing pronoun. (Besides the fact that it's plain insane for the critics to try to make it into an existential issue.)
  • edited December 10
    Seems like we are butchering this thread but you guys have brought up a topic that I had not discussed with anyone before. I think I understand the critics, though I have not asked them to explain.

    Why torture the entire English speaking humanity and hijack “they” when “It” is available to use if “he” or “she” is not sufficient to describe oneself. It was very strange how everyone coddled those that demanded everyone else adapt to the confusion created in both listening and reading.

    People are becoming insanely lazy and impractical. If “it” was not good enough, come up with a new word rather than butcher an existing word. Creativity has gone out the window and in its place selfishness and a sense of entitlement have taken hold.

    From the critics POV, this is probably seen as a Tyranny of the Minority and they wanted to make sure their displeasure is registered and so they called the coddlers as playing “identity politics.”

    It is time the Middle rises to their responsibility or they will get whacked around by the extremes. I would have never thought the extreme right and left will band together to bring down a developed country government. The unthinkable will happen if the Middle chooses to stay passive and disengaged.
  • When it comes to diversions like this, we are not amused.

    There are alternatives other than "he or she" that one can use. Though a substitution may be inexact if one replaces a definite pronoun with an indefinite pronoun.

    With AI supposedly becoming pervasive, "it" may in fact be the ideal pronoun. Or should we be saying he/she/it when the actual identity of a specific referent is unknown?
  • edited December 10
    So glad I am old. I have alway believed that the young should drive the agenda of the future but, as an old woman in this day and age, I have trouble remembering which niece prefers "they" and which niece prefers "it" and which niece prefers "she". Brain just aint what it usta be. I even have nephews trying out various replacement first names and I never know what name I should use this week. I fein more dementia than I have just to avoid the issue. Like, I forgot your name but I love you.
  • I have used they for years, even if it's now wrong in newer ways than it used to be. :)

    I have also used y'all through the years, and if I was dealing with a single human with multiple permutations to consider, there is always all y'all.

  • edited December 10
    @WABAC Agree with you. I discovered interesting uses of Y'all, etc. being exposed to various regions of the U.S. I'm a Michigan born and live. We have our own 'tones' according to others. Moreso an Ontario accent, with the exception being the U.P., which has old carryovers from the Finlanders. Although tone is not part of this conversation.
    "You uns" is a regional dialect phrase primarily used in the Appalachian region of the United States, particularly in the southern states, as a way to say "you all" - essentially a plural form of "you" - considered a non-standard way of speaking; it is often shortened to just "y'uns" and is considered a marker of a Southern Appalachian accent.
    Key points about "you uns":
    Meaning: It is a way to address multiple people in a casual setting.
    Origin: Thought to be derived from the Scottish phrase "you ones," where "ones" acts as a plural marker.
    Regional association: Most commonly heard in the Appalachian Mountains, particularly in areas of West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, and North Carolina
    I've never used or considered needing a 'head doctor' for normal life or investing. Perhaps this is the result of doing TM (Transcendental Meditation' since 1974
  • @catch22, I did not find the upper Michigan accent quite so pronounced as accents I met in my college years in Minnesota. I'll never forget friendly teasing from stereotypical Minnesotans commenting on my hick Missour(ah) accent.
  • A little bit of meditation goes a long way. There is a large variety of techniques - use what works best personally. Basically, meditation forces the brain to organize, prioritize, streamline.

    Think of traffic at red light and the chaos that would follow if no one followed the signals. But lights streamline the traffic. This may cause delays in some situations, so police & fire vehicles and ambulances can go through with sirens.

    Many traders admit to using meditation.
  • Many traders admit to using meditation.

    I suspect that strong drink might also be involved at times!
  • English could theoretically adopt the equivalent of « one/one’s » as found in Romance languages. However, what people actually say has much greater influence on how a language is used and is changed; changes decreed or even suggested by some authority are rarely adopted. A least one prominent linguist has come down on the side of they/them in The NY Times. They/them grates on my ears as much as any other grammatical error or an NPR reporter who says « basically, » or « essentially » every other sentence.

    The French « on » can be used to refer to a him, a her, or an unnamed person. In English the possessive his/hers changes according to the possessor, whereas « son/sa/ses » in French changes according to the gender of the noun, the thing possessed. The French « on » is flexible enough that it can be used to refer to anyone, even I, you, he, she, we, and they. British English presents a partial solution in its much more frequent use of one/one’s in everyday speech. As is the case in French, the Brits have found a way to employ « one » to refer to more than just the third person singular, but I suspect Americans would find such speech too rarified or posh to adopt it. I can’t imagine the average American saying, « One was a bit stressed by news of the outbreak of war, » where the speaker is being self-referential. The French Academy, the arbiter of all things grammar in France, made an effort some years ago to remove « sexism » from the language through suggested usage reforms; AFAIK, the efforts met with ridicule.
  • edited December 10
    Yep, drinks too.

    Many politicians ahead of major speeches, actors ahead of demanding scenes, and traders on volatile days may take a drink or two (who is counting?).

    Humphrey Bogart famously said that the world is 3 drinks behind.

    Pandemic lockdown was transformational for me in many ways. I stopped drinking cold turkey. I expanded my social-media presence, joined MFO, etc.

  • edited December 10
    @yogibearbull Good for you; and we're so very pleased that you arrived HERE.

    TM for me, I do believe; has made a difference. Although, I can't compare to another me, as I've meditated for 50 years. And no, for those who do not meditate; I've not had some grand cosmic experience.........but a few small interesting experiences that would not have happened otherwise. Of this, I am certain. The affects on the human body are more readily measured today. This physical benefit is over and above what one may expect from a 'cosmic journey' on the side of a mental experience .
  • catch22 said:

    @yogibearbull Good for you; and we're so very pleased that you arrived HERE.

    TM for me, I do believe; has made a difference. Although, I can't compare to another me, as I've meditated for 50 years. And no, for those who do not meditate; I've not had some grand cosmic experience.........but a few small interesting experiences that would not have happened otherwise. Of this, I am certain. The affects on the human body are more readily measured today. This physical benefit is over and above what one may expect from a 'cosmic journey' on the side of a mental experience .

    If you are able to, please elaborate the two sentences I bolded. Thanks
  • 1. There have always been those who thought mediation will take them to some magic place mentally within a matter of months. For some, I am sure this happens. My point being, is that if one has never meditated, it would be difficult (for me) to express what 'it feels like'. And not everyone who meditates would have the same experience.
    2. With vastly improved medical measurements available today (versus the 1970's) it is my understanding that blood pressure and most normal items associated with a complete physical improve over time, assuming no other personal habits have changed.
    These would include brain activity and/or functions. I'm sure one can readily find this data/studies via YouTube or other searches.
  • Thanks. I agree. With your explanation, I understand your prior post better. I am one of those that is incapable of imagination and so I tend to ask too many questions / explanations. I hope that is not a bother to others.
  • AndyJ said:

    Yikes. UVXY's been really Ultra the last 4 years: -88%, -45%, -88%, -54% ytd.

    Vix started year ar 13 and is ending near 14. This ETF is probably one of the worst ETFs ever designed if you want to make money.
  • I’m taking “early” retirement next week at 57, so been thinking about risk/reward. Have coworkers who couldn’t tell you what WSJ means, but had retirement 100% in SPY for 30 plus years. Compared to 70/30 ratio, could mean 8% AR vs 11%. Over 33 years
    , could mean at least one million more. Coulda had the brokers yacht and Ferris Bueler’s Ferrari…gonna drink my big Black Cow…

    One of the Ferraris From Ferris Bueller's Day Off Just Sold for $396,000 in 2020. Replica 250 GT.
  • @equalizer, will you be covered through employer group health insurance plan until 65 when Medicare kicks in?
    Years ago, mine did only IF I opted for pension, not lump-sum. But plans differ on this.
  • edited December 15
    Devo said:

    ”The Psychology of Trafing Trading is a good book I read many moons ago which I recommend to people who want to understand emotional techniques to deal with trading. This is not the same as investing for which you are better off listening to munger interviews.”

    Right. Trading can be highly profitable as many here demonstrate. As @Equalizer noted, riskier holdings lend themselves to smaller commitment. So the perceived prize from any single holding is probably less than one might expect. Yet the mental work (anguish?) is very intense compared to owning a diversified fund.

    The ‘07-‘09 fiasco was relatively short in comparison to some of the major historical market slides. May have taught some of us the wrong lesson.

    I’d suggest following at least three different market commentators (pundits) with contrasting market outlooks or approaches to investing, including one bearish source. Try to give each some credence and then chart your course..

    The portfolio analyzers may help keep one (ie he, she, it, they, them) on an even knell. If it’s hard to find compelling buys, ratchet up the cash, bond, “other” or income focused part while pulling back a bit on the percentage in stocks. Personally, I reached a high of 48-50% equities 12-18 months ago. Has fallen to 35% today. My unorthodox approach is to swap-out entire portfolio segments (each representing about 17%).Hence, the considerable slug in LCORX (60+% equity) was recently moved into LPXAX which invests primally in short duration bonds and preferred stocks. A year from now, who knows? Might sell it and move back into a more aggressive holding if market valuations change. (My positioning is for a 78 year old and not a recommendation for others.)

    I do not recommend alcohol for any important thought activity like trading. But it probably works for some. I began taking small doses of NAC, a non-prescription health supplement a decade ago after reading a WSJ piece saying it may stop nail biting. And it worked after 40+ years of gnawing. Works by reducing compulsive tendencies. I don’t think it affects my investing. But possibly makes the bumps along the way easier to tolerate.
  • edited December 15
    @equalizer,

    I know of a distressed credit manager who keeps 100% of his investment between SPY and QQQ, depending on whether he wants to tilt to extra growth. My taxable account (mostly ETFs) is wildly profitable compared to my IRAs because I can not trade in the taxable account. It would have been better if I did not deviate from SPX. Also, my IRA always has twice as much cash compared to my taxable account. 99% of my investing effort is on my IRAs.

    The source of my underperformance emanates from a constant feeling that SPX is very expensive. There is a good reason why it is expensive. I would never eat cheap sushi but I always looked for cheapness in investing. It seems investing based on feelings is dangerous.

    Having said all that, if the role of money is to buy conveniences, then maximizing portfolio size should not be the goal but efficiency (or effortlessness) can always be the goal.
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