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Was justice ever really blind? I doubt it. A myth we were taught perhaps in civics class somewhere. If you can afford a good enough legal team or makes a very large contribution to the “right” party or partisan ticket judicial candidate you’ll be treated more favorably - while 20-something age kids, dumb and poor, do time for lesser offenses. Being of WASP heritage has also afforded privileges in that regard.
Was justice ever really blind? I doubt it. A myth we were taught perhaps in civics class somewhere. If you can afford a god enough legal team or makes a very large contribution to the right party or partisan judicial campaign you’ll be rewarded...
The Human Condition? Granted, it's a reality. Looking out for Number One, ingratiating oneself with the powerful, influential ones. Ya. Things have never been perfect, nor will they ever be in a HUMAN society. But the moral disgrace of our current "leaders" is beyond merely profound. It is of galactic, obvious, heinous proportions. And all right out in the open. No shame.
Crash - Did you raise a stink when Biden pardoned Hunter?
Your WAH (What about him?) argument might apply if we were talking about wrongful or illegal actions. But citing past precedent regarding the exercise of a constitutionally granted power (to pardon) does not strike me as a “what about him” argument. Courts rely on past precedent in adjudicating cases before the bench all the time.
I wonder if the left would have been outraged had President Harris pardoned Santos? Would you be calling her disgusting names with references to her physical appearance?
the vast majority did not object to either blagojevich nor menendez being found guilty, relative to objections on the pardons. to make any comparison to the current extended trump crime family indicates absolutely no comprehension of scale nor ethics.
Crash - Did you raise a stink when Biden pardoned Hunter?
Your WAH (What about him?) argument might apply if we were talking about wrongful or illegal actions. But citing past precedent regarding the exercise of a constitutionally granted power (to pardon) does not strike me as a “what about him” argument. Courts rely on past precedent in adjudicating cases before the bench all the time.
I wonder if the left would have been outraged had President Harris pardoned Santos? Would you be calling her disgusting names with references to her physical appearance?
Your WAH (What about him?) argument might apply if we were talking about wrongful or illegal actions....
Yes, the President has pardoning power. It is legally provided for by law, somewhere. Don't ask me where.
Clearly, Biden was pre-pardoning people because he knew that Orange One would do the very thing we see him doing: going after people just to be vindictive. And Orange Bag is busy pardoning, on the other hand, every manner of criminal filth.
Pardons have historically been employed sparingly. Scooter Libby, eh? Was that GWB, that time? I forget. And in Libby's case, he pardoned him at the very end of his Term in office. Orange Sac has certainly abused the whole process, throwing pardons around like candy.
It's part of a much bigger and sleaze-ier Big Picture. @a2z points to it, above. Santos is just a single brick in The Wall. Trump breaks the law pretty much on a daily basis; then, because things take time, responsible people have to challenge him in court. Meanwhile, even when Trump is legally stopped, the damage is done. He likes to ignore court judgments he doesn't like, too.
The fabric of this current regime in Washington is synthetic: a weaving together of crime, corruption, disregard for the very concept of Ethics and the Rule of Law, and self-aggrandizement (with the family and others connected to the Orange Tool.) Every time he exhales, the planet is exposed to his nauseating, unbearable, narcissistic, detestable existence.
I'm no Democrat, nor Republican. Until there is a gargantuan sea change involving both, they will never get my vote. Donald Trump is neither of those. He is unique, to say the least. He is deliberately subverting this country and picking apart its institutions. I don't just have small and large disagreements with Orange Child. In our history, he is a singular case, out of bounds and beyond anything we've seen in the American Presidency. Ever. Including his use of Pardons. Did you scream when the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were pardoned? It started very early in the regime. It only makes sense to look at the Big Picture. It is publicly available--- rather than to single-out a particular instance, like the Pardons.
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The Human Condition? Granted, it's a reality. Looking out for Number One, ingratiating oneself with the powerful, influential ones. Ya. Things have never been perfect, nor will they ever be in a HUMAN society. But the moral disgrace of our current "leaders" is beyond merely profound. It is of galactic, obvious, heinous proportions. And all right out in the open. No shame.
Link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Blagojevich
What about-ism, @hank? You can do better, I know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Your WAH (What about him?) argument might apply if we were talking about wrongful or illegal actions. But citing past precedent regarding the exercise of a constitutionally granted power (to pardon) does not strike me as a “what about him” argument. Courts rely on past precedent in adjudicating cases before the bench all the time.
I wonder if the left would have been outraged had President Harris pardoned Santos? Would you be calling her disgusting names with references to her physical appearance?
the vast majority did not object to either blagojevich nor menendez being found guilty, relative to objections on the pardons. to make any comparison to the current extended trump crime family indicates absolutely no comprehension of scale nor ethics.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-trump-family-presidency-wealth/
santos epitomizes pre-qualification for advancing in the modern gop, as do the recent young republicans social chats.
Yes, the President has pardoning power. It is legally provided for by law, somewhere. Don't ask me where.
Clearly, Biden was pre-pardoning people because he knew that Orange One would do the very thing we see him doing: going after people just to be vindictive. And Orange Bag is busy pardoning, on the other hand, every manner of criminal filth.
Pardons have historically been employed sparingly. Scooter Libby, eh? Was that GWB, that time? I forget. And in Libby's case, he pardoned him at the very end of his Term in office. Orange Sac has certainly abused the whole process, throwing pardons around like candy.
It's part of a much bigger and sleaze-ier Big Picture. @a2z points to it, above. Santos is just a single brick in The Wall. Trump breaks the law pretty much on a daily basis; then, because things take time, responsible people have to challenge him in court. Meanwhile, even when Trump is legally stopped, the damage is done. He likes to ignore court judgments he doesn't like, too.
The fabric of this current regime in Washington is synthetic: a weaving together of crime, corruption, disregard for the very concept of Ethics and the Rule of Law, and self-aggrandizement (with the family and others connected to the Orange Tool.) Every time he exhales, the planet is exposed to his nauseating, unbearable, narcissistic, detestable existence.
I'm no Democrat, nor Republican. Until there is a gargantuan sea change involving both, they will never get my vote. Donald Trump is neither of those. He is unique, to say the least. He is deliberately subverting this country and picking apart its institutions. I don't just have small and large disagreements with Orange Child. In our history, he is a singular case, out of bounds and beyond anything we've seen in the American Presidency. Ever. Including his use of Pardons. Did you scream when the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were pardoned? It started very early in the regime. It only makes sense to look at the Big Picture. It is publicly available--- rather than to single-out a particular instance, like the Pardons.