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Trump administration says 'top MS-13 national leader' arrested

(https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-top-ms-13-national-leader-arrested/story?id=120211143)

Remember, the Dems told us you can't close the border and arrest the most violent criminals unless we pass immigration laws...but Trump has been doing pretty well with the existing laws.

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  • Good news. Yet he gets due process, unlike students who simply express opinions the Administration does not agree with. Achtung! And then there is the case of the woman from Canada, and how many others?
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-border-1.7483021. She was doing precisely ZERO harm.
  • FD1000 said:

    (https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-top-ms-13-national-leader-arrested/story?id=120211143)

    Remember, the Dems told us you can't close the border and arrest the most violent criminals unless we pass immigration laws...but Trump has been doing pretty well with the existing laws.

    The president said that he “couldn’t care less” if foreign automakers raised prices after he announced that he would impose 25% tariffs on all foreign-made automobiles.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-couldnt-care-less-automakers-raise-prices-tariffs-rcna198731
  • edited March 30
    "Remember, the Dems told us you can't close the border and arrest the most violent criminals
    unless we pass immigration laws..."


    @FD1000,

    Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your post.
    We have laws which allow the U.S. to arrest and/or deport violent criminals regardless of any immigration laws. I'm strongly in favor of incarcerating violent criminals and deporting them (if relevant).

    Recent deportations of alleged Tren de Aragua gang members to El Salvador's mega-prison were conducted without due process. There have been numerous reports which stated that some of the deportees were not affiliated with Tren de Aragua or any other gangs. The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states,
    in part,"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial..."
    The Trump administration needs to uphold the Constitution and follow applicable laws
    when conducting these proceedings. They can't just disregard any laws that they don't like!
  • @Observant1, history says that FD1000 does not post after his initial political one and certainly not in response to a well-reasoned post such as yours. He has low intellectual ability.
  • "They can't just disregard any laws that they don't like!"

    I dunno about that... they're sure giving it a good try.
  • edited March 30
    Old_Joe said:

    "They can't just disregard any laws that they don't like!"

    I dunno about that... they're sure giving it a good try.

    OJ,

    You are absolutely correct!
    The Trump administration believes they are "above the law."
    I've never seen such a blatant, widespread disregard for law emanating from the executive branch.
    I suppose this is to be expected when you consider that Trump is a grifter and a convicted felon.
    Congressional Republicans have relinquished their solemn responsibilty to check executive power.
    Consequently, the judicial branch must now shoulder the entire responsibility.
    The Framers of the Constitution did not intend for the government to operate this way.
    At least our courts have ruled against some of Trump's illegal executive orders.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/how-many-of-trumps-executive-orders-are-being-challenged
  • edited March 30
    @FD1000,

    I have a few questions for you.
    Do you believe that we are a nation of laws and that all U.S. residents are bound by these laws?
    If certain goals/outcomes are deemed worthy, does it matter how these goals are attained?
    In other words, do you believe the end justifies the means?
  • FD1000 believes that as long as his portfolio is healthy nothing else matters.
  • Old_Joe said:

    FD1000 believes that as long as his portfolio is healthy nothing else matters.

    And you could say the same about Dump.

  • edited March 31
    2 easy questions that haven't been answered by Dems because they would never admit anything.
    1) Is the number of illegal immigrants much lower?
    2) Is the number of criminal illegal immigrants that have been arrested much higher?

    Remember, this thread is only about these 2 questions, nothing else.
  • edited March 31
    Old_Joe said:

    FD1000 believes that as long as his portfolio is healthy nothing else matters.

    Seriously?
    I didn't like the previous admin at all, but I didn't cry and complain every day. It's your turn now. What would you do if the current admin will do OK and the next one will be another GOP?

  • edited March 31
    FD1000 said:

    2 easy questions that haven't been answered by Dems because they would never admit anything.
    1) Is the number of illegal immigrants much lower?
    2) Is the number of criminal illegal immigrants that have been arrested much higher?

    Remember, this thread is only about these 2 questions, nothing else.

    Why do you frequently resort to whataboutism when responding to legitimate questions?
    I will provide another opportunity to answer previous questions (if you choose to do so)
    related to recent immigrant deportations.

    Do you believe that we are a nation of laws and that all U.S. residents are bound by these laws?
    If certain goals/outcomes are deemed worthy, does it matter how these goals are attained?
    In other words, do you believe the end justifies the means?
  • Old_Joe said:

    FD1000 believes that as long as his portfolio is healthy nothing else matters.

    Bob Dylan, License To Kill:
    ..."Now he worships at an altar
    by a stagnant pool.
    And when he sees his reflection, he's fulfilled..."

  • edited March 31
    Don't know??? from Reuters 3/22/2025 (a week or so ago)

    11,000 compared to 12,000 last year, so there's that, talk is cheap.

    "Trump deporting people at a slower rate than Biden's last year in office"
  • surprise
  • edited April 1
    You would think that MAGAts would have enough brain cells to know that bringing up immigration is a losing proposition for a debate given the buffoon killed a bipartisan bill that was proclaimed by both parties to be perhaps the best we've seen in ages (maybe ever) because

    (drum roll)

    the buffoon wanted immigration as a key election issue.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2024/08/22/trump-border-bill-arizona-visit/74898253007/

    Oh, I'm sorry, forgive me, he actually did it twice.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html

    I mean, how TF do they think they can swerve around those, you know, facts?

    Any MAGAts in the house wanna take a stab at that one?
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