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Near Collision at JFK - Friday 1/13

edited January 2023 in Off-Topic
https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines/two-planes-near-collision-at-jfk-prompts-faa-investigation.html

Somebody screwed up royally. I was living in the Detroit metro area in 1990 when a couple Northwest jets collided under similar circumstances at DTW. https://www.usdeadlyevents.com/1990-dec-3-fog-runway-collisionfire-northwest-1482-299-dtw-ap-romulus-mi-8/

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  • I never worked at a tower, but we always heard that ground control is the toughest. Remember the Canary Island disaster.
  • edited January 2023
    You read my mind. In the process of digging up the Canary Islands event. Heartbreaking.
    Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster

    Sounds like the American crew was at fault in the recent incident. Can tell from the recording the Delta guys are a bit shaken.

    Ever taxi at O’Hare? They surely need GPS for that one. Usually taxi 30-45 minutes to get to a runway for the 20 minute flight up to TVC. Way OT - But unless you’ve been in LGA past year you won’t believe how they upgraded it. Feels more like the inside of a luxury hotel - just incredibly different and impressive.
  • edited January 2023
    Yes, it sure looks like it was American's screwup, at least at this point.

    "Ever taxi at O’Hare? They surely need GPS for that one."
    I well remember. Now that's an airport.
  • edited January 2023
    Triskaidekaphobia - Might apply here ….

    - The incident occurred on Friday the 13th

    - Delta flight “1943” contains the numerals 1 and 3 (first & last numbers)

    - Adding together the two middle numbers, 9 and 4, results in 13

    On a more serious note - ever wonder why you need to wear a seatbelt and secure all your personal possessions so they can’t move about for takeoff? The Delta hard braking ought to answer that.

    @Old_joe - Those intersecting runways at O’Hare are frightening to me.
  • edited January 2023
    I'd guess that they're now frightening to the Delta crew too.
  • If one is to stay safe in an auto, stay belted at all times ! Same applies for air travel !
  • edited January 2023
    It is unfortunate / inexcusable that the American crew was allowed to depart without delay and proceed to London. The cockpit voice recordings contain only the last 2 hours’ conversation, important (it would seem essential) for determining how this near catastrophe occurred. Drug & alcohol testing should have been done on scene or shortly thereafter following such an egregious breech of operational standards.


    Interesting article about Chicago’s intersecting runways. Apparently being phased out. I can attest to having seen them in use. ISTM, however that what I observed were planes both landing and taking off at once, each using just one end of the runway. Still doesn’t look right.
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