Below is what I posted on 1/31/2020
Performance..1 month...YTD as of 1/31/2020•
Multi• PDIIX……1.5.....
• PUCZX….1.1..…
• JMUTX....1.15....
• JMSIX.....0.8……. (JGIAX)
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Multi(high % securitized)• PIMIX.....0.8….
• EIXIX…..1.1….
• VCFAX...1.3...
• IOFIX.....1.8....
• SEMMX...1.3.... (ST duration, 3 year SD less than 1, over 30% IG bonds-good cash sub)
• DHEIX….0.6…..4.85 (ST duration, 3 year SD less than 1, over 80% IG bonds-good cash sub)
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HY Munis• PHMIX…..2.1.....
• NHMAX....2.7.....
• MMHAX....2.0.…..
• OPTAX.....2.4....
• ORNAX….2.6……..
• GHYAX......2.1......
• GWMEX….2.6…... (IG Munis but BBB+A rating)
• NVHAX……1.7……. (ST duration HY Munis-lower SD than the above)
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Inter Term CORe/CORE PLUS• USIBX.......2.1.....
• BCOIX......1.9…....
• PINCX……2.1..…….
• BND….......2.0…......
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Bank Loans/Floating rate• EIFAX.......0.5.....
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Uncontrain/Nontrad• IISIX..........0.7....
• PUTIX......-0.1….
• PAJZX……0.7….
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HY +EM• HYG.........-0.5.....
• PHIYX.......0.....
• ZEOIX……0.3…….(ST HY, 3 year SD less than 1, good as cash sub)
• FNMIX……1.4…….
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Corporate• PIGIX….…2.5..….
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Preferred• PFINX…...1.5……
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OTHER• FXAIX.…..0..…(SP500)
• PCI………0.9... (CEF)
Rating several good choicesMultisector+NonTrad-
SD less than 1=SEMMX,ANFIX,ANGLX,DHEIX…
SD less than 1.5=IISIX,TSIIX…
SD less than 2=VCFIX,/VCFAX,JMUIX/JMUTX,PIMIX…
SD less than 2.7=IOFIX,PUCZX,DPFNX,JMSIX
HY Muni-…
SD less than 2=NVHIX,WHYIX,ISHYX…
SD less than 3=NHMRX/NHMAX,GHYIX/GHYAX,MMHIX/MMHAX
Core+Core plus-…
SD less than 1.5=FIJEX…
SD less than 3=PINCX,GTO
Observations:2020 OPENED WITH A BANG FOR BOND OEFs. Rates were down and many funds did nicely.
Multi- Another good month and especially for IOFIX. SEMMX did great for its low SD.
HY Munis continues to be a great category with 2+% for a month.
Inter term – did fantastic because rates were down
Bank loans – are lagging
Uncontrain/Nontrad-are lagging and PUTIX fell off the cliff
HY+EM – HYG lost money and EM did pretty well.
Corp – This category was on fire because of the rate cut.
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Generic ViewsMy 2 favorite categories are Multi+HY Munis.
HY Munis-The funds that I usually invest in are NHMAX,OPTAX,ORNAX.
The Multi funds I’m interested are IOFIX,EIXIX,VCFAX,PIMIX,JMUTX,JMSIX/JGIAX,PUCZX but IOFIX is usually the leader. SEMMX did very well for a very low SD fund.
Investors who don't mind and understand the risk, may use SEMMX,DHEIX,ZEOIX as a "cash sub" LT, see 3 year SD less than 1(
link). In taxable, you can use ST duration Munis. NVHAX duration is about 4 which is between ST to LT. I remember so many posts in 01/2019 about MM/CD that were paying just 2-2.5%.
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Any question or subject about bond mutual funds (not CEFs) is welcome in this thread. I will try and answer all of them.
Comments
I'm also looking to make more than the average with bond funds but still, have reasonable low volatility, if I can make 20-30+% more money with portfolio overall SD lower than 2.5 than I accomplish my goals.
Bonds are where great managers can add performance + sometimes lower volatility compared to a generic index such as BND.
HY Munis continue to be my favorite category. OPTAX jumped 2 days, each at 0.9% which is very unusual. YTD...OPTAX 4.3%...NHMAX 3.65...ORNAX 3.4% (chart).
Funny thing about quoting percentages is that seem higher than they appear to be.
Say if a bond fund returns 3%, a 30% increase amounts to less than 1% increase in return.
Is the effort worth it for a tiny 1% increase in return?
Are other assets classes (stocks) or asset allocations (stock to bond ratios) better to target?
Nope, it's not only 1% increase it's much more than that.
Several examples:
1) PIMIX vs BND (link)=in the last 10 years PIMIX made 5% more annually with higher SD(but still low) and much better Sharpe+Sortino
2) IOFIX vs BND (link)=IOFIX made almost 8% more annually with similar SD and much better Sharpe+Sortino.
3) A relative used to invest in MM, I told him to use SEMPX instead after I explained it to him. In 5 years SEMPX made 4.4 while VG VMMXX made 1.2%, this is more than 3% annually.
4) I told another relative to use HY Munis instead of some of his MM/CD and he made over 7% in the last 3 years instead of 1.5-2%.
This tread intention is to discuss only open-ended bond funds.
Not stocks vs Bonds
Not CEFs vs bonds
Not asset allocation
Not how anybody invests currently and in the past.
Not about retirement or accumulation phase.
If you like to discuss the above non-related topics please start a new thread.
It's a pretty simple concept, you post a bond fund and we discuss it generally and compare it to other funds.
So, do you have a bond fund in mind you like to discuss?
This tread intention is to discuss only open-ended bond funds.
Not stocks vs Bonds
Not CEFs vs bonds
Not asset allocation
Not how anybody invests currently and in the past.
Not about retirement or accumulation phase.
If you like to discuss the above non-related topics please start a new thread.
+ 1
I'm also looking to make more than the average with bond funds but still, have reasonable low volatility, if I can make 20-30+% more money with portfolio overall SD lower than 2.5 than I accomplish my goals.
Bonds are where great managers can add performance + sometimes lower volatility..."
Might you do me the favor of including these three?
RPSIX PRSNX PTIAX.
Thank you very much.
Looking at PV (link)
You can see below that VCFAX,JMUTX,PUCZX,IOFIX are better RPSIX PRSNX PTIAX The last 2 columns are Sharpe +Sortino.
See this link (link)
See 3 year performance at PortVis(link)
See the chart (here)
The best risk/reward category over the last several years is securitized.
M* says that PTTFX has over 50% in it and it's the biggest category.
VCFAX has about 90% in securitized...JMUTX 49%...PUCZX 32%...IOFIX 90+%.
Portfolio Vis (link) shows that VCFAX,JMUTX,PUCZX have better performance, SD, Sharpe, Sortino.
I know this has been discussed several times over the years here. This link has several view points for data.
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I wasn't comfortable investing in this fund but after several years of solid performance, I like it.
The managers also provided excellent presentations, see the last (one).
Another good article written by Charles Boccadoro can be found at MFO (link)
YTD...OPTAX 5.6%...ORNAX 4.7%...NHMAX 4.9-5%
See YTD (chart) of IOFIX,PIMIX,VCFAX,PUCZX,JMSIX,JMUTX. The chart shows up to 2/27 but when I copy the link it's only to 2/26
IOFIX is the only fund that is still at the high for year.
According to MFO databased when you search for Multi sector funds for 3 years + best martin ratio you get the following funds
Fund performace
ANFIX 5.3
IOFIX 10.6
SEMMX 5.1
BDKNX 5.7
ANGLX 4.2
PUCZX 7.2
ZEOIX 3.3
IISIX 5.2
TSIIX 4.9
JMUIX 6.2
RCTIX 7.8
DPFNX 6.2
ENIAX 3.9
JMSIX 6.1
MINC 2.9
PIMIX 5.7
For several years I have been using mainly a subsector of Multi which is securitized. The following funds have at least 85+% in it. DHEIX,SEMMX,VCFAX,DPFNX,IOFIX. In this category, SEMMX has the best performance for SD<1 and IOFIX has the best performance over 10% annually for SD< 2.7. There are only 2 Multi funds with performance over 7% RCTIX,PUCZX.