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  • Senate bill could spell end to ETF tax advantage
    A couple of reference links:
    I believe this is the Melanie Waddell writing that syzygy quoted.
    Ed Slott Weighs In on House Democrats' Proposed Mega-IRA Crackdown (from ThinkAdvisor)
    The 881 page markup to the Build Back Better Act that contains the proposed backdoor Roth IRA changes:
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/NEAL_032_xml.pdf
    Thanks to davfor for the Wyden proposal link; it contains a link to the actual text:
    https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Pass-through Changes Discussion Draft Legislative Text.pdf
    The part of the text that pertains to ETFs, in its entirety is:
    SEC. __17. RECOGNITION OF GAIN ON CERTAIN DISTRIBUTIONS BY REGULATED INVESTMENT COMPANIES.
    (a) IN GENERAL.—Section 852(b) is amended by striking paragraph (6).
    (b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to taxable years beginning after December 31, 2022.
    Simplicity itself. Section 852(b)(6) gives RICs (including ETFs) special tax treatment. So striking this section takes away that special treatment. ETFs would no longer be able to divest themselves of gain without owing taxes on the gain.
  • Senate bill could spell end to ETF tax advantage
    An oft heard refrain: I just want to make sure that the small investor isn't hurt. Coincidentally, the definition used for small investor turns out to include the speaker. Though it may sound like I'm picking on BenWP here, my observation is general. Even before reading details of the proposal, I was confident that the proposed change would fall primarily on wealthier investors.
    First, because the truly little guy is insulated from capital gain taxation - until one's taxable income exceeds $40,400 (single) or $80,800 (joint), cap gains are taxed at 0%. Second, because (at least as of 2012) only 1/3 of households even had taxable investment accounts, and I think it's a safe bet that these are largely not lower income households. "It is immediately clear that household income has the strongest relationship with taxable account ownership."
    https://www.sec.gov/spotlight/fixed-income-advisory-committee/finra-investor-education-foundation-investor-households-fimsa-040918.pdf
    The in-kind transaction loophole existed for all forms of businesses (corporations, funds, etc.) since 1935. Congress began narrowing it in 1969. It was little used until ETFs came along and exploited it. It has never made sense from a tax principle perspective - cap gains cannot simply go **poof**. Logically they should either accrue to the company (RIC) or if passed through, to the recipient.
    Throughout the history of U.S. investment companies, in-kind distributions have been exempt from tax at the fund level. As Congress began to limit and finally prohibit in 1986 the tax-free distribution of appreciated property by corporations, it continued to specifically exempt open-end funds from this rule. There is scant discussion in the legislative history for the justification for this exemption or why closed-end funds were not also eligible. Perhaps the simplest explanation for the legislative silence is that when [the tax code was changed to narrow the exemption], in-kind distributions from open-end funds were rare.
    Jeffrey Colon, The Great ETF Tax Swindle: The Taxation of In-Kind Redemptions, 122 Penn St. L. Rev. 1 (2017)
    Abstract: https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/faculty_scholarship/722/
    Paper: https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1721&context=faculty_scholarship
    As to the proposal, it is simplicity itself. Registered investment companies (OEFs and ETFs) are to be treated the same way as other companies. When they sell holdings, they are to recognize capital gains. Regardless of the form of the sale, i.e. regardless of whether they receive cash or fund shares in exchange for the securities they sell.
    No more special cases. No special case because they're conducting an in-kind transaction. No special case because they're an OEF or ETF rather than a CEF.
    ETFs would be expected to respond by selling their highest cost shares to the AP (authorized participant) rather than their lowest cost shares. At least if they cared about tax efficiency. That's the same method that OEFs use when raising cash to redeem shares.
    Regarding Vanguard: Even before Vanguard started selling VIPERs (Vanguard Index Participation Receipts), their index funds tended to be the most tax efficient on the market. There were many years when their broad based index funds did not distribute cap gains. The proposed change should make Vanguard funds (and ETFs) look even better relative to their competition because of demonstrated skill in minimizing taxes.
    Vanguard writes: “the ability of mutual funds and ETFs to transact securities in-kind is a longstanding practice that improves outcomes for millions of investors.” Funds could always transact in-kind.
    ETFs fundamentally rely upon this ability in order to keep market price close to NAV. The proposed change does not affect their ability to transact in-kind. OEFs sometimes rely upon this ability as well. It is reasonably well known that Sequoia not only reserves the right to redeem shares in kind, but states explicitly that it is likely to do so for redemptions above $250K. Investors benefit because funds are not forced to conduct fire sales to meet large redemptions.
    Sequoia Prospectus: It is highly likely that the Fund will pay you in securities or partly in securities if you make a redemption request (or a series of redemptions) in an amount greater than $250,000.
  • Senate bill could spell end to ETF tax advantage
    Regarding Roth conversion limits for high-earners, Congress chose to delay the limits for 10 years according to Ed Slott:
    "In order to close so-called “backdoor” Roth IRA strategies, the bill eliminates Roth conversions for both IRAs and employer-sponsored plans for single taxpayers (or taxpayers married filing separately) with taxable income over $400,000, married taxpayers filing jointly with taxable income over $450,000, and heads of households with taxable income over $425,000 (all indexed for inflation).
    “This is similar to the old $100,000 income limitation for Roth conversions that existed before 2010, except now the income limits are increased to the $400,000/$450,000 levels,” Slott explained. “Oddly though, this proposal would not be effective for 10 years. The effective date says this would apply in years after Dec. 31, 2031.”
    This change “would end Roth conversions for high-earners, but Congress still wants its conversion tax dollars. What to do?” Slott continued. “Maybe this delayed effective date shows us that Congress still needs this Roth conversion revenue so it can fill budget gaps, at least for the next 10 years. So, this provision is a non-issue for now.”
  • Senate bill could spell end to ETF tax advantage
    If, in fact, the proposed legislation aims to levy CG taxes on the big traders and big financial firms that benefit from the tax loophole, I might favor it. OTOH, if the individual shareholder, “the little guy,” were to bear the burden of yearly CG taxes on fund distributions, I’d tend to think it was just another effort to shelter the truly wealthy to the disadvantage of the middle class. The recent changes in IRA distribution rules do not really affect the wealthy, who don’t rely on IRA investments to save for retirement. The rules do, however, shift a tax burden to the heirs of taxpayers who, in all likelihood, are of relatively modest means. The wealthy can pass on vast sums practically tax-free to their heirs. I’m old enough to remember the new tax rules governing IRAs the Reagan administration promulgated. Individual shareholders had to cough up big bucks for tax year, 1986, IIRC. Relative to my wealth, my two cents represent a lot, in case you were wondering…
  • Robinhood Wants Younger Investors - Kicks off Campus Campaign
    “Robinhood Markets Inc., the go-to trading app for young investors, wants its user base to get even younger. The digital brokerage is kicking off a nationwide marketing campaign Wednesday that is designed to turn more college students into Robinhood customers. Robinhood will give students who sign up for brokerage accounts using their school email address $15 to trade, and enter them into a $20,000 giveaway.
    “Robinhood executives will tour campuses of community colleges and historically black colleges and universities this fall … Robinhood reported earlier this year that its median user was 31 years old and that more than half of its customers hadn’t previously had a brokerage account. Robinhood already has more than 3.8 million student customers.”

    From: The Wall Street Journal September 16, 2021
    Here’s a link, but you’ll likely need a subscription to get in
  • Senate bill could spell end to ETF tax advantage
    This bill is just in the trial balloon stage of consideration. It reportedly has support among mutual fund providers. Adoption (a long shot possibility?) would somewhat level the playing field between mutual funds and ETFs.
    ETF tax advantage
  • Updated MFO Ratings: March ... MTD Thru 25 April
    Appropriately, on a day when four civilian astronauts were launched into space with a SpaceX Falcon rocket, Brad Ferguson, an ardent Elon Musk fan, discussed the origin and application of the Ferguson Metrics to identify consistent outperforming funds. Here is the Zoom session recording.
  • PRWCX Cuts Equity Exposure
    Oops! … The information I relayed yesterday in quoting from a subscription blog proved incorrect. A reader questioned author Bill Fleckenstein’s prior assertion and, to his credit, Bill published that exchange for his readers today and admitted the error was his.
    Here’s an excerpt from today’s exchange:
    “Q: Hi Bill
    I was hoping you could help interpret the statement: "if you put a dollar into the S&P, 41 cents goes toward Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and Facebook" as those combined market caps don't reach up to 41% of the index (I see Mid 20s depending on the day), I just wanted to see what I'm missing and how to calculate this important point.
    Thanks
    Fleck (Bill Fleckenstein): That is because I made a mistake. That (41%) is the weighting for the QQQ, NOT the S&P. I just double-checked what James said. So, it was my error due to quoting the wrong index, not his.“

    -
    I really appreciate all the accurate feedback from mfo members the (errant) quote generated. I think Fleckenstein’s underlying point that a few big caps are responsible for most of the gain in the S&P is valid. It’s just not as extreme as he initially claimed.
    Glad he corrected it. - But there is no joy in Mudville—
  • Vanguard Advice Select funds in registration
    Here's a deeper dive into Vanguard's three new active equity funds for PAS clients.
    Link
  • Artisan Floating Rate Fund in registration (now available)
    I don't predict rates. All I am saying is that BLs have done very well in 2021, and fund families do not start funds, because they think that fund will not do well going forward.
    Fund companies want to attract new investors, and if you do not have a fund that investors are interested in, they will go to another company that does offer that kind of fund.
  • Vanguard Multi-Sector Income Bond & Core-Plus Bond Funds in registration
    @WhollyTerriers,
    I didn't find the Top 10 Country Breakdown when using the newer M* format.
    However, there is a way to obtain region exposure if that would be helpful.
    Click 'Portfolio' > Go to 'Fixed Income Exposure Analysis' section > Click drop-down arrow for 'vs. Credit Rating (Portfolio Weight%') > Select 'Region (Portfolio Weight %')
    The Top 10 Country Breakdown can be viewed in the older format by using the following URL (replace ticker).
    https://performance.morningstar.com/fund/performance-return.action?t=DODLX&region=usa&culture=en-US
  • Artisan Floating Rate Fund in registration (now available)
    My reasoning for "suggesting" that Artisan starting a BL fund, is just based on "my" general observation, that some of the major investing families, will often introduce a new category fund, or an additional fund in an existing category, when they view the fund's future as bright, and potentially attractive, for investors interested in that category. In general, BL funds do well when interest rates are flat, or rising. In 2021 BL has been one of the most consistent bond categories for the year, with many of the better known BL funds "quietly" having very good years, compared to historical TRs. It is just my opinion, but I have done well with some BLs in 2021, and I am not surprised to see more BLs opening.
  • David Rubinstein Interviews Ron Baron
    Did you mean to post a clip that is only 1:22 minutes long or did something got cropped?
    @BaluBalu - Thanks for catching the bad link. The updated one should be for the full 24 minutes.
    Agree with @Observant1 that Rubinstein does some good interviews. This one in particular is laid-back / easy to listen to - however short on actionable advice.
    Regards
  • Vanguard Multi-Sector Income Bond & Core-Plus Bond Funds in registration
    It's probably right in front of my nose, but where in "new format" Morningstar can you find the U.S./International fixed income percentage breakdown for a fund?
    In the old format you could at least get that from "Top 10 Country Breakdown."
  • Updated MFO Ratings: March ... MTD Thru 25 April
    Brad Ferguson will be joining us tomorrow to discuss his methodology, 15 September, at 10:30 am Pacific. Please register here.
  • David Rubinstein Interviews Ron Baron
    Did you mean to post a clip that is only 1:22 minutes long or did something got cropped?
  • PRWCX Cuts Equity Exposure
    To compare, no pun intended, apples to apples, you need to drop Tesla since it wasn't in the original list.
    VRGWX and VFIAX are not all that similar. Six weeks ago, the former had 45% of its holdings in the top ten, while the latter had "only" 28%. Data from M*.
    https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/vrgwx/portfolio
    https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/vfiax/portfolio
    Further, because a given stock can have, say, 60% of its cap weight allocated to the growth index and 40% of its cap weight allocated to the value index, what it means when a stock has a large (or small) weight in the growth index is not straightforward. That company could be a larger (or smaller) company, or it could simply be more (or less) growthy than other stocks in the growth index.
    https://research.ftserussell.com/products/downloads/Russell-US-indexes.pdf
    Given that six weeks ago the top ten holdings of VFIAX constituted 28% of the fund, it should be clear that the five named companies (six securities) could not now comprise 41% of the S&P 500.
    Six weeks ago, those six holdings comprised 22% of VFIAX, and thus presumably of the S&P 500. As of yesterday (Sept 13), they accounted for 23% of the S&P 500. Per SlickCharts.
    It is best not to take figures on blind faith, especially when they don't pass a laugh test.