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  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    I think we're in agreement here. If one buys a "go anywhere" international fund that really does go anywhere, then one is delegating regional allocations. Then one should simply benchmark against a global ex-US index and not complain about the world regions it wanders into.
    However, that's not the way many funds function. IMHO, the difference between a traditional balanced (60/40) fund and a moderate "allocation" fund is that the latter has a little more wiggle room to make tactical shifts. But it's still going to be meandering near that 60/40 "set point", and so should be benchmarked that way.
    Likewise, if one picks an international fund that holds around 1/5 in EM, then one should keep that in mind when fleshing out one's portfolio. So long as the fund doesn't lose big relative to its set point allocation, then as you wrote, "that's fine".
  • Analyst Who Nailed 2018 Has Same S&P 500 Forecast For Next Year
    FYI: Mike Wilson, the biggest equity bear on Wall Street whose prediction has proved prescient this year, has a similar outlook for 2019.
    The chief U.S. equity strategist at Morgan Stanley forecast that the S&P 500 will end next year at 2,750, the same level he forecast for 2018. That’s about 3 percent above the index’s current level. With five weeks to go for the year, Wilson’s estimate is by far the closest of all estimates to coming true.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-26/analyst-who-nailed-2018-has-same-s-p-500-forecast-for-next-year?srnd=premium
    His "On The Markets For November"
    https://www.morganstanleyfa.com/public/projectfiles/onthemarkets.pdf
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Interesting. DODFX (down 13%+ YTD) has cranked out better than 10% average annual returns over the past 10 years. And over that longer period ranks in the top 5% (5th percentile) of its peers according to Lipper. Gets back to what I said earlier about needing a long time horizon and a lot of patience to invest with these guys. I’d be loath to give up on it.
  • No Refuge For Investors As 2018 Rout Sends Stocks, Bonds, Oil Lower
    The WSJ link did not work for me. This link includes at least a partial (full?) copy of the article....
    All told, 90% of the 70 asset classes tracked by Deutsche Bank are posting negative total returns in dollar terms for the year through mid-November, the highest share since 1901. (The S&P 500 is up slightly in 2018 on a total-return basis.) Last year, just 1% of asset classes delivered negative returns.
    https://dollarcollapse.com/short-everything-in-sight-market/
  • No Refuge For Investors As 2018 Rout Sends Stocks, Bonds, Oil Lower
    FYI: The failure of so many investment strategies is viewed by some as a warning of what could come following years of above-average returns.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-refuge-for-investors-as-2018-rout-sends-stocks-bonds-oil-lower-1543155033?mod=hp_lead_pos5
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Let me try fine tuning VF's statement slightly. Instead of "YOU are supposed to know how much exposure you should have to the market", try: YOU are supposed to know how much exposure you should have to various markets.
    If you invested 100% in a (relatively) well performing gold fund, its your problem for having picked the gold market instead of having invested in, say, a mediocre bank loan fund this year.
    DODFX has roughly treaded water. If one buys into DODFX (this year or any time), one is choosing to invest around 1/5 in EM stock and the rest in developed market stock. No bonds, no gold, no pork bellies. YOU make that decision. Given what DODFX invests in, it continues to do okay relative to its market.
    Foreign Large Blend YTD: -11.93%
    Emerging Markets YTD: -15.80%
    80/20 mix YTD: 80% x -11.93% + 20% x -15.80% = -12.70%
    DODFX YTD: -13.64%
  • IOFIX
    Sorry, guys I just don't get you. Look at the link below.
    http://schrts.co/WwJmK5
    I mentioned earlier it spiked in August. Now it spiked down. If it hadn't done either, it is not too hard to see the NAV would land where it is today.
    I don't own this fund but I can't understand suddenly and only when fund drops like this there is a lot of analysis and speculation about it, while it is no problem when a fund spikes - no one asks why it could have, we just celebrate.
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Current Morningstar rating of the 6 Dodge&Cox funds show 4 funds with a 5 Star rating and 2 funds with a 4 Star rating. Not too many fund companies with multiple funds can beat that.
    I think their “gross” underperformance in ‘08 was likely a one-time occurrence. But, can’t say for certain. However, D&C’s funds will normally give you a rougher ride for sure. Not for the “queasy”.
    Long term (10+ year out) if one has a lot of patience they’re a hard act to beat IMHO. A lot of that is due to their very competitive ERs. Not many investors today possess that degree of patience. Actually, now in my 70s, I don’t possess that degree of patience either. I continue to hold slices of DODBX, DODIX and DODLX, but now avoid their equity funds.
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Current Morningstar rating of the 6 Dodge&Cox funds show 4 funds with a 5 Star rating and 2 funds with a 4 Star rating.
    Not to many fund companies with multiple funds can beat that.
  • 2018 Mutual Funds preliminary capital gain distribution estimates
    @Mark,
    Here is the earlier post about Harbor's large CG forthcoming.
    https://mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/discussion/43072/m-taking-a-bath-lessons-from-a-big-fund-s-9-billion-capital-gains-distribution-hainx
    Also check Principal and Transamerica Funds links above for extremely large CGs. Even BRAGX paid a $5 per share CG this year after all of the years it had carry forward losses.
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    @Mark is correct. D&C was a train-wreck during the late ‘07 to early ‘09 market collapse. One of the worst performers across all their equity funds. Some of their funds lost more than 50% during that 2-3 year period. Their balanced fund, DODBX, held up better, but also was hammered relative to peers. Reading their commentaries back than, D&C management blamed unanticipated and unusual government intervention during the crisis, in part, for their poor performance.
    I’m sorry I can’t remember exactly what transpired, but believe it had to do with the government and courts’ failures to hold accountable issuers of (defunct) obligations D&C held. D&C got stung good on some of that paper. I believe they contested it in court to no avail.
    I stuck with them, shifting more and more into their most beaten-up funds as markets crumbled. At the end of the mess I had 100% in DODWX, which bounced nicely in ‘09.
    Personally, I don’t understand or pay much attention to moving averages. But I do believe in spreading risk around. That means D&C is but one of several houses I entrust my life savings to. I’ve always considered them a bit more aggressive than the average fund manager in their equity and balanced funds. So you need to be prepared to take a little bigger hit in down markets.
    You can read about the 2008 misery in the linked Dodge & Cox Annual Report, dated December 31, 2008: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/29440/000119312509037454/dncsr.htm
    In the report, reference is made to their failure to foresee “the likelihood of government interventions” in the crisis as one cause of their poor performance.
  • IOFIX
    Adding to @Junkster and his note about the (14 day RSI in the 90s). The "teal" color at the top of this chart is the RSI section above the 70 number. One finds the available range of 100 (overbought, too hot to handle/buy) to 0 (oversold, dying or dead) for a FULL RSI scale.
    3 year IOFIX chart
    --- A more typical chart for a well performing fund, being FSMEX, and one will see the periodic moves above the "70". I reference this particular fund for its long term performance overview and typical bumps in the road. The 10 year annualized = 19.3%.
    3 year chart, FSMEX
    I suspect that Junkster will agree that the IOFIX chart and the implication is very exceptional to the rule.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • Discussion with a Portfolio Manager
    @PBKCM: I see you've been doing very well over the last year with KCMTX !
    Regards,
    Ted
    Fund Return: Category Return: S&P 500: %Rank: Quntile:
    YTD 4.68% -4.63% 0.84% 5% 1
    1yr 8.85% -3.55% 3.95% 2% 1
    3yr2 10.11% 2.46% 10.48% 1% 1
    5yr2 7.67% 1.38% 10.34% 1% 1
    10yr2 8.32% 6.29% 15.15% 14% 1
  • emerging markets value: a rare ray of sunshine from GMO's strategists
    Thanks to David for doing all the leg-work on researching these EM value funds. I find the performance comparisons among the several funds surprising in that Seafarer seems to be a laggard. This is surprising to me, a former shareholder, and maybe to MFO participants who have voiced quite steadfast support for Mr. Foster. Over the last 25 years, when I have been a market participant, I haven't made much money in EM and I certainly have not been compensated for the risks. Grandeur Peaks's latest letter to shareholders, a "mea culpa," says they had too much exposure to EMs. Granted, there's no place to hide these days; EMs seem to offer the least protection, but never fail to attract the soothsayers who prod the unwary to catch the next wave up. The TRP EM value fund does have a good, though short, record.
  • GMO 7-Year Real Return Asset Class Forecast (Oct2018)
    I offer this post (my follow-up) info from a few days ago; relative to "the smart folks" gett'in investment things correct or not.
    https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/discussion/45519/worst-is-yet-to-come-for-stocks-morgan-stanley
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Through October, all six Dodge & Cox funds below 3- and 10-month simple moving averages (SMAs), including its Income fund DODIX. Its closed International Stock fund DODFX is trending 8.5% below is 10-month SMA.
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  • Which Markets Are Closed On Thanksgiving?
    Okay, the financial markets are closed on Thanksgiving. (I think we all knew that.)
    Here's some information on the retail markets: Stores Closed on Thanksgiving Day
    It contains links to a list of stores open Thanksgiving Day, and to Black Friday hours.
    Those are some of the regular markets. Supermarkets may vary :-)
  • emerging markets value: a rare ray of sunshine from GMO's strategists
    GMO monthly issues their "7‐Year Asset Class Real Return Forecasts" for 10 - and, beginning this month, 11 - asset classes. Their method is fairly simple: assume that things - P/E ratio, profit margin, sales growth and dividend yield - will revert to "normal" over the next 5-7 years and sketch the line from here to there. The "real" part is that you deduct the effect of inflation from the resulting "nominal" returns.
    Several scholars have examined their predictive validity and found it to be pretty robust. One, examining projections from 2000-2010 then comparing them with Vanguard index funds concluded:
    The correlation between the GMO predicted returns and the Vanguard realized returns for equities, bonds, and all assets taken together are 0.954, 0.959 and 0.677 respectively. (Tower, 2010)
    Others found that even when the absolute values are off (i.e., GMO was too pessimistic during the frothier parts of bull markets), the relative values are right: GMO's top-ranked asset class tends to outperform its second-ranked class, and so on. Ben Inker, their chief strategist, claimed a 94.5% accuracy (2012).
    As recently as September, the real return projections were negative for every asset class except cash. They were least negative about the emerging markets. The newest projection released today begins to factor-in the effect of the recent market turbulence. Bad news: cash remains the most promising US asset class, with US equities in the red over the next 5-7 years and US fixed income breaking even. Good news: there is one asset class now poised for historically exceptional returns, emerging market value equity. GMO projects a 7.7% annualized real return for EM value, well above the historic 6.5% real return in the US stock market. Emerging equity, as a whole, is the second-highest asset class (4.4% real) and emerging debt (2.8%) is third. The one caveat: these asset class return projections are not risk-adjusted; that is, there's no suggestion about how much volatility you'll need to accept in return for your hoped-for 7.7% real.
    Traditionally value investing in the emerging markets has been painful and, mostly, unprofitable. Managers at Seafarer and elsewhere argue that structural changes in the emerging markets - largely marked by local investor activism - has fundamentally changed that equation and that long-ignored value plays offer ... well, exceptional value. As a result, there are relatively few EM value funds though their ranks are growing.
    Based on YTD performance (as of 11/21/18), here are the top 10 EM value funds available to domestic investors:
    • BlackRock EM Equity Strategy
    • American Beacon Acadian EM Managed Volatility
    • ICON EM
    • T. Rowe Price EM Value
    • Schwab Fundamental EM Large Company Index Fund
    • Pzena EM Value
    • Dreyfus Strategic Beta EM Equity
    • State Street Disciplined EM
    • SA EM Value
    • Seafarer Overseas Value
    Pzena, T Rowe and Dreyfus sport five-star ratings from Morningstar. Dreyfus and T Rowe have also earned Great Owl designations from MFO for their consistently top-tier risk-adjusted returns. State Street and SA (for Strategic Advisers, a set of funds offered to certain Fidelity clients) trail with two-star ratings. BlackRock and Seafarer are relatively new funds.
    On the your choices in the upcoming December issue of Mutual Fund Observer.
    Take care,
    David