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  • Art Cashin: "Ally Auto Loan Comments 'Reverberated Through The Market"
    @bee: Thanks for reminding the board about Puddhead's head's-up on auto loans. Just as an aside I own ALLY-A GMAC Capital Trust I, 8.125% Fixed Rate/Floating Rate Trust for it's excellent yield.
    Regards,
    Ted
  • Emerging Market Funds - Looking for an Oxymoron
    In last month's Elevator Talk, Paul allows that he'll pursue for SFVLX some investments that are riskier than what would be appropriate in SFGIX.
    If you want to limit downside, consider a fund that hedges its equity exposure. There are three possible hedges: a hybrid fund that holds bonds (often flagged "Total" or "Multi-asset"), a fund that's willing to hold a lot of cash, or a fund with a formal hedging policy. I screened for open, retail funds with the lowest downside deviation over the past five years. Here are 14 of the 15 "best" (the other was an institutional fund). Ten of the 14 have peer-beating returns over that period. Remember: these aren't recommendations, these are just a set of funds that meets one of your criteria that you might want to learn a bit more about.
    David
    GuideMark Emerging Markets GMLVX - 98% equity exposure
    Capital Group Emerging Markets Total Opportunities ETOPX - 45% equity
    Deutsche X-trackers MSCI Emerging Markets Hedged Equity ETF DBEM - hedged equity
    Harding Loevner Frontier Emerging Markets HLFMX -95%
    ICON Emerging Markets Fund ICARX - 88%
    New World Fund NEWFX - 84%
    Amana Developing World AMDWX - 87%
    AB Emerging Markets Multi-Asset ABYEX - 47%
    Fidelity Total Emerging Markets FTEMX - 63%, a Great Owl
    Lazard Emerging Markets Multi Asset EMMIX -47%
    Baron Emerging Markets BEXIX - 92%
    Calamos Evolving World Growth CNWIX -80%
    Seafarer Overseas Growth and Income Fund SIGIX - 90%, a Great Owl
    iShares Edge MSCI Min Vol Emerging Markets ETF EEMV - hedged equity
  • ROTH IRA Question
    I think Dolphin nailed it. If you have no other IRAs, then just roll this one into a Roth IRA and you'll just pay the income tax on the gains that have taken place. The actual deposits move for free.
    401k holdings don't apply at all UNLESS you roll those into an IRA. Then suddenly this little IRA becomes only a part of your total IRA holdings.
    I once had this type of IRA also. When I cashed it out to buy a house, the tax due was only on the increase in value. Same concept as rolling it over.
  • Funds with high cash stakes
    @briboe69, How about SGENX? I own both IVWAX and SGENX. The performance and risk profile are comparable.
    A great fund, I've owned it for 20 years. I'm a little concerned about asset bloat with SGENX, so I also own FEBAX since there is a lot of overlap between the two. My four largest holdings in order are PRWCX, FEBAX, IVWAX, and SGENX. My main goal is capital preservation first, growth second, despite being only age 45.
  • ROTH IRA Question
    Converting a non-deductible IRA to a Roth IRA is straightforward if you have no other IRA assets. The taxable portion is only on the gains since the contributions have already been taxed.
    However, it's rarely a good idea if you have other traditional IRAs. Total balances of all your IRAs are used to determine the taxable amount of your Roth IRA conversion.
  • ROTH IRA Question
    Here's some info from the IRS that doesn't specifically answer the question but would be interesting if you wanted to get all the after-tax contributions out of the IRA and into a Roth while moving whatever gains are there into another pre-tax plan.
    https://irs.gov/retirement-plans/rollovers-of-after-tax-contributions-in-retirement-plans
    I didn't follow any of the other links on the page but my guess is that you might find specific answers about the tax implications and/or penalties in one of those links.
    The tax returns and Form 8606, which is used to report after-tax contributions to the IRS is all you need to prove your basis. I believe, but I'm guessing a little, that brokers or trustees have to report the value of retirement plans to the IRS annually or at least when there's a distribution so the IRS can calculate what portion of the distribution you should be paying tax on.
  • ROTH IRA Question
    @LLJB. If at least I can confirm the penalty is only on the gains after cost basis, that'll be good. However, it would be really nice if there is not even that penalty since the IRA was funded with after tax dollars anyways.
    I've tried to get this clarified reading Roth IRA conversion rules, but this situation is not addressed anywhere that I can find. Hoping someone can provide some guidance.
    Finally, there remains the item of proving your cost basis, whether for Roth IRA conversion right now, or whenever I sell out the IRA. Because I'm thinking even if I let money stay in current IRA when I sell it, I should not have to pay deferred taxes on the entire withdrawal since after all I have a cost basis on which taxes were already paid. I did put this in my tax returns so it shows up I have a cost basis.
  • ROTH IRA Question
    Sorry I'm not an expert but I also have after tax dollar in an IRA together with pre-tax money I rolled over from a previous employer's 401k. My understanding is that the after-tax contributions gives me, and your wife, a "basis" in that IRA. Just like when I eventually take distributions and I won't have to pay tax on everything I believe your wife would only pay tax on whatever gains are in the account if she does a Roth conversion.
    Based on the research I've done about converting my rollover IRA to a Roth I also don't believe there's any penalty, just whatever tax is due on the gains you covert to the Roth.
    Hopefully someone is able to confirm my opinion because I probably wouldn't want to rely on it alone.
  • Tax Efficient Balanced Funds
    Holding a balanced portfolio, comprised of muni-bonds and stocks, probably makes sense for many people.
    But, IMO, using the 'wrapper' of a balanced fund to do so, is not the approach I would take. Instead, I would own separate stock & muni-bond vehicles (probably ETFs or CEFs), held in the desired stock/bond allocation. Why? - When stocks (or bonds) drop, you can use the taxability of your account as an asset, rather than a liability -- sell the item which is 'down', harvest the tax loss, then buy a similiar-but-not-identical ETF.
    OTOH, the manager of a tax-aware balanced fund doesn't drive his/her decisions on what YOUR cost-basis is.
    jmo
    I think a problem with this plan occurs when you have little to no losses, but a lot of capital gains and income. This has been the case for me more often than not.
  • Stock-Picking Champ Is A Do-Gooder Who Doesn't Overdo Idealism: PARWX & WFC
    Sorry, IMO lack of courage of your convictions. I still have hope they will sell out of WFC. Trump + Low borrowing + Stock Purchases is behind most of market gains, and especially in financials. It is not due to manager prowess. So let's not say his decision to not sell WFC worked out in the best interest of shareholders. That's not different than saying he knew another stock was going to go up 100% and decided not to overdo idealism and bought that stock.
    “People thought socially responsible investors were do-gooders doomed to fail,” HTF is he a do-gooder? Oh of course. Staying in WFC is also helping society.
    Dodson doesn’t envision hiring a successor at the Endeavor fund any time soon.
    “If you’re wondering about a precedent, I would like to point out that Warren Buffett is still managing Berkshire Hathaway and he is 86 years old,” he wrote in last month’s letter. “I’m only 73, so I have a long way to go.”

    WTF? Buffett has enough successors at BH.
    Just like so many articles, it is meant to excuse the manager. Finally, no mention of WFC beyond opening shot. Why even bring it up in article? Only to gloss over it?
    It is wrong to sleep with your neighbors wife. Doing to the contrary once in a while is not not overdoing morality. WFC should have been sold.
    PS - Cannot resist calling out the over-the-top bullshit. "The thin boyinsh looking money manager" WTF?!?!?!?! If he is boyish looking then I'm a fat 3 month old baby.
  • Funds with high cash stakes
    Ummm ... you might check the article we wrote on the subject in May and June, 2016.
    When I checked the premium screener just now for domestic equity with over 25% cash, I got:
    Comstock Capital Value Fund; Class A Shares
    GAMCO Mathers Fund; Class AAA Shares
    Scharf Alpha Opportunity Fund
    Probabilities Fund;
    Bullfinch Fund Inc: Unrestricted Series
    PACE Small/Medium Co Growth Equity Investments;
    Pinnacle Value Fund
    Frank Value Fund
    Weitz Partners III Opportunity Fund
    Hussman Strategic Value Fund
    Intrepid Disciplined Value Fund
    Day Hagan Tactical Dividend Fund
    Bread & Butter Fund
    Port Street Quality Growth Fund
    PACE Small/Medium Co Value Equity Investments;
    American Growth Fund Series Two (AMREX)
    Cullen Small Cap Value Fund
    The list is a bit truncated because some of the Intrepid folks seem to be moving to short-term bonds rather than pure cash. ICMAX, for instance, shows as 16% equity, 18% cash, 64% bonds. That might be a more-common move now.
    David
  • Fidelity Inflation-Protected Bond Fund to close?
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/35315/000137949117001676/filing836.htm
    497 1 filing836.htm PRIMARY DOCUMENT
    Supplement to the
    Fidelity® Inflation-Protected Bond Fund
    May 28, 2016
    Prospectus
    Effective after the close of business on March 31, 2017, new positions in the fund may no longer be opened. Existing shareholders may continue to hold their shares and purchase additional shares through the reinvestment of dividend and capital gain distributions.
    IFB-17-01
    1.774739.115 March 15, 2017
    Supplement to the
    Fidelity® Inflation-Protected Bond Fund
    Class A, Class T, Class B and Class C
    May 28, 2016
    Prospectus
    Effective after close of business on March 24, 2017, Class T will be renamed Class M.
    Effective after the close of business on March 31, 2017, new positions in the fund may no longer be opened. Existing shareholders may continue to hold their shares and purchase additional shares through the reinvestment of dividend and capital gain distributions.
    AIFB-17-02
    1.790682.127 March 15, 2017
    Supplement to the
    Fidelity® Inflation-Protected Bond Fund
    Class I
    May 28, 2016
    Prospectus
    Effective after the close of business on March 31, 2017, new positions in the fund may no longer be opened. Existing shareholders may continue to hold their shares and purchase additional shares through the reinvestment of dividend and capital gain distributions.
    AIFBI-17-01
    1.790683.120 March 15, 2017
  • Sign of a market top?
    Some snippets of interest ... the rest is comments from investors/analysts about staying diversified and knowing that a 'correction' will come sometime.
    < - >
    Investors have poured money into stocks through mutual funds and exchange-traded funds in 2017, with global equity funds posting record net inflows in the week ended March 1 based on data going back to 2000, according to fund tracker EPFR Global. Inflows continued the following week, even as the rally slowed. The S&P 500 shed 0.4% in the week ended Friday.
    The investors’ positioning suggests burgeoning optimism, with TD Ameritrade clients increasing their net exposure to stocks in February, buying bank shares and popular stocks such as Amazon.com Inc. and sending the retail brokerage’s Investor Movement Index to a fresh high in data going back to 2010. The index tracks investors’ exposure to stocks and bonds to gauge their sentiment.
    “People went toe in the water, knee in the water and now many are probably above the waist for the first time,” said JJ Kinahan, chief market strategist at TD Ameritrade.
    < - >
    That brings individual investors increasingly in line with Wall Street professionals. A February survey of fund managers by Bank of America Merrill Lynch found optimism about the global economy improving while investors were holding above-average levels of cash, leaving room for them to drive stocks still higher. Bullishness among Wall Street newsletter writers reached 63.1%—the highest level since 1987—a week ago in a survey by Investors Intelligence, before falling to 57.7% this past week.
    < - >

    Not sure "being in line" with Wall street professionals is always a good idea. That usually happens late in the game when retail/dumb money climbs on the bandwagon and helps form that proverbial blow-off top. Institutions trim their holdings and lock in gains while selling to the exuberant and retail investors eager to get in on the action --- but at the top, as usual.
  • Sign of a market top?
    A good mention @Tony The WSJ audio clip I received (subscription service) sounds like the same article you're referencing - but I can't read it online either. It's a 6-8 minute clip laying out the bear case which we're all by now familiar with from various sources.
    Summary
    - Stocks have increased about 250% from the end of '08 when (according to the article) "nobody" wanted them.
    - As always, the mom & pop / momentum crowd come late to the party and drive the "euphoric" stage for an indeterminable number of additional years.
    - Serious investors face a tough decision whether to hang on to equities longer hoping to reap the big gains that come in the final "blowoff' stages of a market top or to sell now locking in gains before stocks plummet.
    I know. "Same Old" - "Same Old" that we've all been hearing for the past few years. I'm not saying the analysis is correct. And I haven't a clue what anyone should do. Just wanted to help clarify the focus of the WSJ piece you appear to be referencing. Thanks again for sharing.
    Edit/Additional
    Source: WSJ March 9 2017, Author: James Mackintosh, Title: "This Crazy, Expensive Stock Market Is for Speculators, Not Investors" https://www.wsj.com/articles/this-crazy-expensive-stock-market-is-for-speculators-not-investors-1489078334?tesla=y
    Excerpt: Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism and die on euphoria—Sir John Templeton. Eight years ago today, investors were more pessimistic than they had been in many decades. Stocks had crashed back to where they stood almost 13 years earlier, banks were failing and comparisons to the Great Depression of the 1930s were routine. It was a great time to buy."
    Re: James Makintosh http://topics.wsj.com/person/M/james-mackintosh/8338
    (I made a couple minor corrections to original summary based on a second listening.)
  • Highest Annualized Rate of Return
    Those are nice Kiplinger tables (data from M*). Be careful with the top figures though, because funds often have multiple share classes.
    For example, it says the top 3 year performer was DSENX, but DSEEX performed about 1/4% better. That's as one would expect since the I class shares have no 12b-1 fee. (I checked to make sure that DSEEX was also around for at least three years as of 2/28/17.)
    Online, M* only goes back 15 years, but with that in mind, the top 15 year performers are (as of 3/10/17):
    OSMAX 14.71% (foreign small/mid)
    PHSZX 14.60% (health)
    SHSSX 14.55% (health)
    PRMTX 14.53% (communications) - converted from CEF New Age Media 7/28/97 (> 15 years ago)
    ESMAX 14.44% (Europe)
    CGMRX 14.27% (real estate)
    BRUFX 14.21 (allocation 50%-70%)
    INPIX 14.14% (trading - leveraged equity)
    To address the question about the next 20 years, the most obvious answer is: your guess is as good as mine. FWIW, my guess is a bit south of 8%. Look at Ted's 20 year top LC performers. Domestically, around 11-12%, internationally 7%-8%.
    Rate of population growth is declining quickly (might result in slower demand/profit growth). Unlike the first industrial revolution that increased both production capability and demand (hiring workers), the new revolution in machines (both service and manufacturing) seem to improve primarily just the production side of the equation.
    Just a couple of random thoughts. Not sure how it will really affect long term profits (which is supposed to be what drives capital gains).
  • Highest Annualized Rate of Return
    Thanks, Ted. 10 years is too short for what I'm asking about. Looks like the best they have for a 20 year period is Vanguard Capital Opportunity at 12.9%.
    @Junkster, what I was intending by using the word diversified was to exclude those funds.
  • What are you ... Buying ... Selling ... or Pondering? (March 2017)
    Sold DLRFX in my IRA.
    Took partial gains in lot of my Artisan holdings.
    Bought some American funds.
  • The chart that could be pointing to trouble for stocks
    We interpret charts based on what we wish should happen in the markets. Now, there is nothing wrong with that.
    It's one thing for me to get paranoid about an unfavorable MACD crossover if I'm mulling taking gains in one of my holdings. I can convince myself if I sell and the security then goes up, at least I "acted" in the present. Similarly if I was looking to buy a security and then I can use a positive MACD crossover (among other things) to decide I need to buy it. Once again, if the security starts plummeting at least I did my ANALysis.
    What is NOT okay, is to write a BS article every other week trying to predict the direction of the market based on a chart and get paid for it. Because there is no personal money at stake in doing that. It is just utter nonsense, and is THE reason investor returns do not match fund returns. These experts are making money and they don't even have to invest it because they get a consistent "return" for every such article they publish while investors use real money when reacting to these articles.
    Let's all agree to not perpetuate this criminal enterprise.
  • It’s NOT The Fees?!?!?!
    I will also note that fees always have a negative impact on investor returns. ... Mutual fund managers never have a losing year when their funds have negative years, the investor does. ER is paid regardless as to whether the investor subtract the fee from gains or adds the fee to losses.
    Morningstar: "Zero or negative expense ratios are rare but not unprecedented." The article contains examples and links. The ones I had in mind were the Bridgeway funds the article leads with. They are especially relevant as they have performance adjustments that can make fund expenses go negative. The fund managers most definitely had a losing year.
    Since the article is old, and some of those links are dead, I'll help out a little. The Elon Musk backed funds referenced are also described in this Bloomberg article.