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The Value Of Skill

FYI: 2014 was an extraordinarily difficult year for active equity managers, especially in the U.S. market; our year-end SPIVA report, e.g., showed that 86% of large-cap equity funds underperformed the S&P 500. This observation is hardly unique, nor original to us. What’s unusual about 2014’s results is that the rate of failure was extraordinarily high — between 2000 and 2013, on average “only” 58% of large-cap managers underperformed, as against 2014’s 86%.
Regards,
Ted
http://www.etftrends.com/2015/03/indexology-the-value-of-skill/

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  • So 14% (100%-86%) of managers OUT performed the S&P in 2014....That's
    14%x8000 funds=1,120 managers beat S&P in 2014....pretty good I would think
    Can you find 6-10funds out of 1,120 to own? Always thinking....
  • I'm sure there's a list out there somewhere but us poor minorities would only know it after the fact.
  • Picking a winner(s) always a conundrum....

    [ kəˈnəndrəm ]


    NOUN
    a confusing and difficult problem or question:

    "one of the most difficult conundrums for the experts (investors)
  • MJG
    edited March 2015
    Hi Guys,

    The SPIVA reports have been issued for over a decade now, and the primary conclusions have remained constant during this entire period. Although percentages change depending on the market environment, less than half active mutual fund managers outperform applicable Indices.

    The law of conservation of returns demands this outcome since these active managers are themselves mostly the marketplace. Their cohort underperformance can be roughly estimated by considering the negative impact of costs and fees in the mix.

    SPIVA has done yeomen work in measuring the shortfall distributions in terms of asset classes (large/small, growth/value, US/International, government/corporate bonds, etc.). To fully appreciate and exploit the SPIVA studies, a nuanced review of the many SPIVA tables is required. I recommend that interested MFOers invest that required time.

    SPIVA does NOT compare, nor do they advise comparing, the bulk of their funds against a single reference standard. That’s wrongheaded. It is meaningless to contrast the returns of a Small Cap Value fund against the S&P 500 measure. These are obviously horses of a totally different color.

    The referenced ETF Trends article quoted the 86% record for only one year (2014) and only represented those funds that are assigned to the Large Cap category. The assumption that there are 8,000 funds in that grouping is wrong. In fact, there are typically slightly over 1,000 funds in that classification with a period survival rate that is less than 100%. The 8,000 assumption is grossly in error.

    Therefore, it’s incorrect to calculate that 1,120 active fund managers outdistanced the S&P 500. Also, using a single year’s performance data is similarly wrongheaded; returns are simply too jumpy and non-repeatable year-to-year to reliably use a single year for decision making.

    Even with this correction, a respectable number of active managers do indeed outdistance their benchmarks. But it is a narrow field, and Alpha (excess returns) is a vanishing quantity; a deeper examination of the SPIVA data sets quickly uncovers the disappearing Alpha phenomena. Superstars exist in all professional fields, although the stars’ output does erode with time. So too in the active fund management discipline.

    The erosion of overall Alpha these days is often attributed to the abundant expert, field leveling status of all fund managers. Jesse Livermore, Benjamin Graham, and Warren Buffett battled weaker opponents when establishing their superior records. The persistent perils are becoming a rare find.

    Please do not interpret this post as being generated by a fully committed Indexer. I am not. I am moving in the Indexer direction, but I still maintain over 30% of my portfolio under active fund management. Winners are out there.

    It is a challenge in a multi-dimensional world to identify the potential (never with certainty) winners. A history of positive Alpha is surely a good starting point. Style consistency and tenure are also contributing factors. Also smaller fund size allows the active manager to be more agile. Perhaps the single best discriminator is the overall cost of the fund. The most promising funds offer the lowest ownership costs.

    Several Vanguard studies that have been referenced on MFO earlier demonstrate a situational advantage for active management. Here are repeat Links to that work:

    http://www.vanguard.com/pdf/s356.pdf

    https://pressroom.vanguard.com/content/nonindexed/7.5.2013_The_bumpy_road_to_outperformance.pdf

    Admittedly, Vanguard is constantly grinding its axe, however, please checkout both the Vanguard studies and the SPIVA series. They’ll guide you in identifying solid active fund managers, without any guarantees of course. For example, the SPIVA data clearly show that an investor has a highly likelihood of selecting a superior Alpha fund manager for a Large Cap Value fund then for a Large Cap Growth fund.

    To end on a happy note, I’m sure you all know the story about what they call a mushroom who goes into a bar and orders drinks for the house. A fungi (a fun guy).

    Sorry about that. I suppose this tarnishes my image still further. My stock picking skills are no better than my joke selection skills. That’s yet another reason why I go the mutual fund route.

    Best Wishes.
  • "Sorry about that." You should be! :-)
  • "SPIVA does NOT compare, nor do they advise comparing, the bulk of their funds against a single reference standard. That’s wrongheaded. It is meaningless to contrast the returns of a Small Cap Value fund against the S&P 500 measure. These are obviously horses of a totally different color."

    I always find it interesting by answering one ridiculous statement, with another that contradicts someone's (wrong) findings
    Thus I reply.... 14%x8000 funds=1,120 managers beat S&P in 2014....pretty good I would think

    I like to wait and see if anyone can counter with a more accurate conclusion: a respectable number of active managers do indeed outdistance their benchmarks.

    Which is the correct conclusion: and that is the ONLY conclusion of any managed vs. index funds....e
    enjoy, the next soon to appear article with new misleading figures to promote any conclusion they want
  • Larry Swedroe's new book, "The Incredible Shrinking Alpha" lays out a good argument as to why obtaining Alpha is getting increasingly difficult.
  • I saw an interesting article recently (but unfortunately cannot locate it) which maintains that the reason active management is not performing better is that "dispersion" (a measure of how differently individual stocks perform as opposed to the average of the set) has been low in recent times. Thus the change in value of individual stocks has not varied greatly from the change in the average, making it difficult to outperform an average (index). The article charted dispersion over time and noted that dispersion has in the past been much higher than in recent years. Thus it is possible that dispersion will in the future widen out and make active management look a lot better. I thought this was an interesting and plausible argument.
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