Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

In this Discussion

Here's a statement of the obvious: The opinions expressed here are those of the participants, not those of the Mutual Fund Observer. We cannot vouch for the accuracy or appropriateness of any of it, though we do encourage civility and good humor.

    Support MFO

  • Donate through PayPal

Trump fires hundreds at US climate agency NOAA:  ‘Cruel and thoughtless’

edited February 27 in Off-Topic
Following are excerpts from a current report in The Guardian:

Employees informed by email that their jobs would be cut off at end of day in move a worker called ‘wrong all around’
The Trump administration has fired hundreds of workers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa), the US’s pre-eminent climate research agency housed within the Department of Commerce, the Guardian has learned.

On Thursday afternoon, the commerce department sent emails to employees saying their jobs would be cut off at the end of the day. Other government agencies have also seen huge staffing cuts in recent days. The firings specifically affected probationary employees, a categorization that applies to new hires or those moved or promoted into new positions, and which makes up roughly 10% of the agency’s workforce.

“The majority of probationary employees in my office have been with the agency for 10+ years and just got new positions,” said one worker who still had their job, and who spoke to the Guardian under the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. “If we lose them, we’re losing not just the world-class work they do day to day but also decades of expertise and institutional knowledge.”

Another anonymous staffer called the laid-off workers “dedicated, hard-working civil servants who came to Noaa to help protect lives and keep our blue planet healthy”. “These indiscriminate cuts are cruel and thoughtless,” the second worker said.

It is not only laid-off employees who will be harmed by the cuts, the second worker said. Ordinary Americans who rely on Noaa’s extreme weather forecasts, climate data and sustainably monitored fisheries will also suffer. “Words can’t describe the impact this will have, both on us at Noaa and on the country,” the employee said. “It’s just wrong all around.”

Andrew Rosenberg, former deputy director of Noaa’s National Marine Fisheries Service, said Thursday was a “sad day”.

“There is no plan or thought into how to continue to deliver science or service on weather, severe storms and events, conservation and management of our coasts and ocean life and much more,” he said. “Let’s not pretend this is about efficiency, quality of work or cost savings because none of those false justifications are remotely true.”

All of the probationary employees at Noaa’s Environmental Modeling Center, which improves weather, marine and climate predictions, lost their jobs, one employee posted on social media.

The Maryland senator Chris Van Hollen called mass layoffs within the commerce department “flatly illegal” in a letter on Wednesday to the commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick.

That same day, the climate non-profit Union of Concerned Scientists sent a separate letter to Lutnick, signed by more than 2,500 scientific experts calling for Noaa to maintain its funding and staff.
skip past newsletter promotion

“This will cost American lives,” said the congresswoman and ranking member of the House science, space and technology committee, Zoe Lofgren, in a written statement. Her comments were issued alongside Congressman Gabe Amo’s, the ranking member of the subcommittee on environment, after news of the firings broke.

“By firing essential staff who work tirelessly on behalf of the American people, President Trump and Elon Musk are playing politics with our national security and public safety,” Amo said. “Leaving Noaa understaffed will inevitably lead to additional chaos and confusion – I call on them to rehire these public servants immediately before preventable tragedy strikes.”

Lutnick assured Congress during his confirmation hearing that Noaa would not be dismantled under his watch. “It seems either Lutnick willingly lied to Congress and the American people or that he has caved in record-breaking time to the destructive agenda of the Trump-Musk regime,” said Dr Juan Declet-Barreto, a senior social scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

The Trump administration has not commented on the firings.
Note: Because removing "employees [who] have been with the agency for 10+ years and just got new positions" will have a potentially serious impact on national commerce, transportation, and public safety it seems reasonable to consider this information as financially related.

Comments

  • Anyone who lives in the hurricane belt, the tornado belt , who makes a living on the ocean, who sails on the ocean, will certainly miss this service … we never left our slip without checking the NOAA weather over a 50 year sailing career.
  • Get out your sharpies. You might need to update your maps. Will we believe we have better weather when no one reports otherwise. Do crops also do better when they believe the growing season is always perfect? Do forest fires just go away in the west when no one says the conditions are dangerous?
  • Following are excerpts from a current report in The San Francisco Chronicle:

    Elon Musk’s DOGE layoffs hit California National Weather Service employees
    Large federal workforce firings began at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Thursday, including National Weather Service employees in California.

    According to U.S. House Natural Resources Committee ranking member Jared Huffman, D-San Rafael, hundreds of NOAA scientists were being terminated. Employees were told terminations would go into effect Thursday evening.

    “People nationwide depend on NOAA for free, accurate forecasts, severe weather alerts and emergency information,” Huffman said. “Purging the government of scientists, experts and career civil servants and slashing fundamental programs will cost lives.”

    The scope of the firings “transcends virtually all the job descriptions in NOAA,” said Daniel Swain, a climate scientist with UCLA and UC Agriculture and Natural Resources, during a briefing Thursday. Swain described cuts affecting experts in the fisheries division, hydrologists and the scientists who build and maintain the American weather model.

    Some NOAA offices could lose up to 25% of their staff, according to a person familiar with the matter. The exact number of NOAA scientists terminated was not immediately clear.
  • edited February 28
    ...Circling back to the Musk email demanding the 5-item list: Orange Pus answered a reporter's question and specifically mentioned that "we don't know if some of those people even exist." That is plainly and obviously Conspiracy Theory 101. The best and most perfect illustration. Just like the guy in the "Woodstock" film, holding a joint and declaring: "Marijuana, Exhibit A."

    That is part-and-parcel of these massive gummint firings. Trumpy is throwing red meat to his base. If non-existent people get fired, where's the harm? But of course, it is childish, silly, absurd and destructive. Bosses know who their employees are. There are no cadavers.

    The Inspectors General could step in, but... oops. They were FIRED. Ya.
Sign In or Register to comment.