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For those who believe Covid will not affect the young

sma3
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Governor Baker press conference just now. 44% of ICU days at Massachusetts General Hospital are in people under 60.

And this is with social distancing and strict stay at home. What would it be like without these restrictions?

So anybody who believes that it is only the old folks who get sick and hospitalized and use up resources etc is absolutely incorrect. God help Georgia.

https://patch.com/georgia/dacula/georgia-ranked-among-worst-states-health-care

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  • willmatt72
    First of all, since when is below the age of 60 considered "young?" People in the their 40s and 50s are not "young." This is a nice way to skew the numbers. I live in Massachusetts and know all about the numbers in the state. Bottom line: It's a scandal for nursing homes and long term care facilities, where 50-60% of all deaths in the state are occurring. Average age of death from the Chinese Flu is 82 years old in Mass. Most people that die are in their 70s and older. Look at the Mass. DPH numbers and get back to me. If you are really "young," you have virtually nothing to worry about, other than getting a cold or flu-like symptoms.
  • MarkMark
    @willmatt72 - who said "If you are really "young," you have virtually nothing to worry about, other than getting a cold or flu-like symptoms."

    And you know this how? Source please.
  • willmatt72
    I said it. It's pretty easy to conclude based on the numbers and people I know who have had it.

    According to the Mass. DPH website: Average age of those hospitalized is 69. Average age of those who have died, 82. To date, the rate of deaths for those 40 years of age and younger is 4 out of 100,000 people. So yes, it affects older people with pre-existing conditions at much greater rate. It's startling, really. Again, this number of saying "young" people, under 60, is ridiculous.

    https://mass.gov/doc/covid-19-dashboard-april-29-2020/download

  • davfordavfor
    Here is a little more info:
    In the vast majority of younger adults, covid-19 appears to result in mild illness with the risk of more severe consequences rising with every decade of age. According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data, 0.8 percent of U.S. deaths as of Apr. 18 were in people ages 25 to 34; 2 percent among those 35 to 44; and 5.4 percent among those 45 to 54.
    From: https://washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

    Also, there seems to be a fairly strong link between having a severe case of Covid-19 and being obese among young people:
    Young adults with obesity are more likely to be hospitalized, even if they have no other health problems, studies show.
    https://nytimes.com/2020/04/16/health/coronavirus-obesity-higher-risk.html


  • MarkMark
    The latest from the CDC as of April 29, 2020. See Table 2.

    Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
  • willmatt72
    "Provisional" death counts with all sorts of footnotes and the like. The Mass. DPH website is so much easier to navigate and understand. Since Mass. was mentioned in the OP, I'll stick with that.
  • johnNjohnN
    edited May 2020
    Majority may probably get better. Family was/[? from me? ]is heavily exposed (even w ppe and proper precautions working in medicine floor and sub acute setting]. She had stay home feel very bad few days....did not get tested because was long waiting at testing centers. Supervisor was understaffed and told us -we have come back work 3 days later instead of 14.

    Even the infection disease physicians at facility changed the guidelines folks whom are well can return 3-7days instead of 14. We were hesitant/concerned but did confirmed reaffirmation with CDC guidelines and came back to work. We are doing extremely well now..We did discussed with the infection disease team, they state 70-98.5% gets it may have no issues [depending on different studies]

    Unfortunately one 57 yo lady with many health issues passed away at facility. We do keep her in our prayers
  • expatsp
    @johnN Glad to see you back on the board! Hope you and your family are well, many of us here have been worried about you.

    @willmatt72 Thanks for posting the Massachusetts data, very informative. One thought: the relatively low death rate (include for those under 60) may be because drastic quarantine measures flattened the curve and kept hospitals from being overwhelmed. Presumably, a lot of those folks who ended up in the ICU (including those under 60) would have died if ICUs hadn't had room for them. If you read about what's happening in countries without sufficient ICUs (e.g. Ecuador) it's pretty horrifying.
  • rforno

    Speaking of the young getting hit by this...

    A Young Doctor, Fighting for His Life
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/02/opinion/sunday/young-doctor-coronavirus.html?smid=tw-share
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