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Gold (Funds) Still Cheap Despite Record Surge: Marc Faber Article / Interview

beebee
edited April 2011 in Fund Discussions
Read / Listen to Faber here:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42478554

My take:

Gold may very well still be cheap but, I have been taking profits as I go...

I have made a habit of taking profits from my PM mining fund (USAGX=USAA PM & Mining) and Tocqueville Gold (TGLDX) as well as other portfolio "winners" and reallocate them into core holdings like PRPFX=Permanent Portfolio when they are trending above PRPFX's trend line. I tend to consider them a strong buy when they are below PRPFX's trend line. Here's a link charting these three funds. Remember this is a price chart which doesn't reflect dividend reinvested (something I do not like about Yahoo charts!)

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=TGLDX+Interactive#chart4:symbol=tgldx;range=5y;compare=prpfx+usagx;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

bee

Comments

  • bee,

    I am curious why you own both USAGX and TGLDX? Any particular reason? 5 and 10 year performance very similar but of late TGLDX seems to be doing better.

    ~A
  • I actually have a toe hold in TGLDX, a leg in USAGX and a leg in VGPMX (10K min.). Being managed funds I feel manager risk is hedged by spreading the wealth in this sector. TGLDX and VGPMX both can hold metals (up to 20%) which might account for USAGX's comparative higher volitility. Stock selection by the managers also comes into play. I like diversifying when it comes to human decision making...wish Vanguard had a EFT equivalent.

    Here are the three using Vanguard's Fund comparison tool: (might require some input on your part)

    https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/vanguard/compare?navigatingFrom=2
  • Hi Bee. I did the same. I had a 7% stake in USAGX (USAA PM and Minerals) and UNWPX (US Global World PM's.) I've cut back the last few weeks to a little over 2% now and I'll hold that. After about a 120% rise the last couple years, I thought I shouldn't stay greedy. I'll wait for a pull-back to buy it back again. I also figured I had a fairly good stake in a couple other funds that hold gold bullion, PRPFX and WASYX, Ivy Asset Strategy. PM Miners can get pretty volatile as you know.
  • Howdy,

    I congratulate you both on being prudent and staying with your plans. It's very easy to get giddy as so many of us did back in the '90s. I remember old Art saying, that no one ever went broke taking profits.

    Simple rebalancing can avoid a lot of losses. Back in the dot.com bull, let's say your target allocation was 60/30/10 but the equity portion had appreciated to 80%. When the market puked in 00', most equities about half. This means that without rebalancing, you lost 40% whereas if you had rebalanced, you would have only lost 30%. Yeah, still a lot, but when it comes to your retirement, every bit helps.

    peace,

    rono
  • Hey rono,

    Thanks for the help along the way...you get the lighthouse award...you are right about re-balancing. If you don't do it first the market has a funny way of doing it for you.

    bee
  • Dido thanks from me rono. This is one sector I probably never would have invested in without reading your Asia and the metals posts.
  • Ditto. I profited by investing as I did after reading your posts. TY Rono.
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