I was recommended here by another poster and have been reading the site. So, I thought I would put this out there.
Basics
58
No debt
Own home
Single
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Not working
Currently paying all expenses out of savings.
Small pension at 61 that should pay 40% of expense budget
SS and pension at 62 or 63 should pay close to 100% of expense budget
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40% of $ in IRA
60% of $ outside of IRA
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Risk adverse
Prefers income over capital gains.
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Currently 100% in cash - yes I know - let's not go there.
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What I'm considering:
50% of cash - Over the next 6 months or so average into a High Yield Bond Fund - FAGIX
Remaining 50% - after 6 months or so see what to do.
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My concern is that if I"m thinking of doing this is, that we are at a top, and at the wrong time to get back in. I'm not into trading in and out of the markets or doing a lot of trading.
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I had a good mix of Vanguard funds but got scared out of them.
Value Index
Wellesley Income
Emerging Markets
High Yield Corp
Reit Index Fund
FTSE all world Ex Us
Mid Cap Value Indes
Small Cap Value
Convertibles
Emerging Bonds
What would you recommend to invest in and when to do it?
Thanks
Comments
Junk bonds are seriously overbought
“Yes, high yield is attractive right now, but there are also significant risks when your starting point is low interest rates and narrow spreads,” said Steve Blumenthal, chief executive of CMG Capital Management Group Inc., a firm that helps advisers manage bond portfolios.
The average junk bond yield is hovering around 6%, which is only 350 basis points higher than the yield on the 10-year Treasury bond.
That spread compares with a historical average of 500 basis points, which should remind investors of the potential for radical yield adjustments.
Junk bonds offer more upside potential while Fed's QE continues
By Jeff Benjamin | October 24, 2013 - 1:30 pm EST
http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20131024/FREE/131029934?template=printart
“When there's one big buyer that everyone knows is going away, you run the risk of a bunch of big trades getting in your way as you're trying to get out of high yield,” Mr. Blumenthal said.
My comment is that there has been no indication that the Fed has ever bought junk bonds as part of QE. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The staples ETF also includes things like Costco, Walgreens and CVS.
I'd consider a balanced REIT fund, such as Fidelity's Real Estate Income (FRIFX) fund.
It's had a significant run already this year, but you could look at a healthcare fund, such as T Rowe's popular fund, or, HQH/HQL, two more aggressive closed-end funds that have thrown off significant dividends.
While markets have run a lot, is there a name that you could see owning for years - something you like and are familiar with? (the Peter Lynch "buy what you know")
Regards,
Ted
Vanguard Fund Recommendations:
VGHCX
VASVX
VHCOX
VWELX
Ted - I wish I stayed the course and just kept my eyes closed! Now when I open them it looks like I'm at the top of a mountain and there is only one way to go.
On the theory that if you're going to have active management you ought to give them maximum leeway to make their decisions, you might look into global funds like TWEBX, FPRAX or JGVAX; or possibly global allocation funds like SGHIX or RPGAX. None of these are too big for the manager to handle (a couple are very small), turnover and expenses are reasonable, the fund families are good, and they all appear to have relatively low risks. That latter consideration makes is far more palatable to consider investing in them immediately.
To produce income, I think short term junk bonds might be considerably less risky than longer term junk. Funds like OSTIX, DHSTX or WHGHX pay out something like 4 1/2% - 5 1/4 %. Much more aggressive might be closed-end funds like BGH or BLW which would pay out something like 8% and sell at nice discounts at the moment (but both are also highly leveraged). Maybe combine the junk with something like FPNIX. RPHYX seems the perfect place for cash but unfortunately is closed to new investment (fortunate for Observer readers who got into it, however).
Just some ideas to think about. Good luck.
I am the king of conservative, and as Vert mentioned, RPHYX is closed. And so is my other favorite fund, MFLDX.
I consider MERFX a quasi-cash substitute fund. Nothing exciting, but you won't get burned.
At these recent all time market highs ... for many of the indexes ... I'd do it slowly and average into the positions selected for investment over an extended period of time and especially on market pull backs. My thoughts are that both stocks and high vield bonds are mostly overbought at this time. Again, I'd be very careful and average into my position targets very slowly. In this way, you could back off if you felt it was warranted.
Skeeter
now, all is well with the internet advice of course.. but for the obvious reasons, you should hire a professional who will set your asset allocation and will be available to hold your hand during the inevitable market correction.
best wishes, FA
Almost No One Makes Money From The Stock Market Alone
About a year old ,but it is still one of my favorite investing perspectives.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/949001-almost-no-one-makes-money-from-the-stock-market-alone?source=email_the_daily_dispatch&ifp=0
http://performance.morningstar.com/fund/performance-return.action?t=PRPFX®ion=USA&culture=en-US
My plan is coming together in my mind - investment vehicles and time - it isn't finalized.
I'm thinking in terms of phases.
Phase 1 - now - start with low amount income averaging into income funds 6/8/10 months? - I just need to get off the mark and get started - these funds are just an example.
wellesley
Emerging market bond fund
Vang Total Int'l bond
From my looking at the markets for Int'l bonds they have taken a hit and off their highs - more downside is possible of course.
Phase 2 - Stock funds - on hold
Vang Total stock mkt
Vang FTSE all world Ex Us
High Yield Corp bonds
Allocation goal?
18% - wellesley
15% - Emerging market bond fund
10% - Vang Total Int'l bond
18% -Vang Total stock mkt
19% - Vang FTSE all world Ex Us
20% - High Yield Corp bonds
I might add Wellington into the mix.
Do not dive into FAGIX except for a small handful (5% max) just to satisfy that itch.
I'm mostly interested in income (vs capital gains) but I understand the need to have stocks and those gains. In the coming years 5+ years I think outside the US will have good potential for growth - weaker $, stronger economies outside the USA.
In the past, while working, I selected funds, set up automatic investment and forgot about them.
In some ways, I view myself as my own contrary indicator - if I want to get in - it probably a TOP! That is why I also asked about when to average into the recommendations.
I looked at davidrmoran's suggestions and I don't think they fit my goals - but I'll look at them again.
--- PRWBX 2
--- DODIX 4
--- RPSIX 5
--- PRFRX 5
--- TRRIX 6
--- TRRFX 6
--- OAKBX 7
--- PRWCX 7
--- PRPFX 7
--- Higher than 7 would apply to most equity and high yield bond funds (including emerging market) which would not seem suitable for you. And, if you currently have money at Vanguard, consider VWELX - about a "7" in terms of risk. Regards