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Dictator Trump Plans to Break Up Premier Weather and Climate Research Center

edited December 22 in Off-Topic
Following are excerpts from a current report in The New York Times:

Russell Vought, the White House budget director, called the laboratory a source of “climate alarmism.”
The Trump administration said it will be dismantling the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado, one of the world’s leading Earth science research institutions. The center, founded in 1960, is responsible for many of the biggest scientific advances in humanity’s understanding of weather and climate. Its research aircraft and sophisticated computer models of the Earth’s atmosphere and oceans are widely used in forecasting weather events and disasters around the country, and its scientists study a broad range of topics, including air pollution, ocean currents and global warming.

But in a social media post announcing the move late on Tuesday, Russell Vought, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, called the center “one of the largest sources of climate alarmism in the country” and said that the federal government would be “breaking up” the institution.

Scientists, meteorologists and lawmakers said the move was an attack on critical scientific research and would harm the United States. The National Center for Atmospheric Research was originally founded to provide scientists studying Earth’s atmosphere with cutting-edge resources, such as supercomputers, that individual universities could not afford on their own. It is now widely considered a global leader in both weather and climate change research, with programs aimed at tracking severe weather events, modeling floods and understanding how solar activity affects the Earth’s atmosphere.

The center’s research has often proved useful in unexpected places, such as when its studies of downdrafts in the lower atmosphere in the 1970s and 1980s led to development of wind shear detection systems around airports that helped address the cause of hundreds of aviation accidents during that era. The center also developed GPS dropsondes, instruments that are dropped from aircraft to gather crucial data about hurricanes and other storms and to improve forecasts.

The lab is operated by the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, a nonprofit consortium of more than 100 universities, but the vast majority of its funding comes from the federal government, including through hundreds of millions of dollars in grants from the National Science Foundation. Scientists said dismantling the center’s climate research would do irreparable damage to cutting-edge meteorology and advances in weather forecasting.

“It’s the beating heart of our field,” Kim Cobb, a climate scientist and the director of the Institute at Brown for Environment and Society, wrote in a post on Bluesky. “Generations of scientists have trained there, and almost everyone I know relies on deep collaborations with NCAR scientists.” Katharine Hayhoe, a climate scientist at Texas Tech University, wrote on X that the institution is “quite literally our global mothership.” She said nearly everyone who researches climate and weather around the world has worked at or with NCAR.

It “supports the scientists who fly into hurricanes, the meteorologists who develop new radar technology, the physicists who envision and code new weather models, and yes — the largest community climate model in the world,” she wrote, adding, “Dismantling NCAR is like taking a sledgehammer to the keystone holding up our scientific understanding of the planet.”

Mr. Trump routinely mocks climate change as a hoax and his administration has labeled virtually all efforts to study climate change, reduce the level of dangerous greenhouse gases in the atmosphere or protect communities from the impacts of global warming as “alarmism.” The administration said the center had supported what it called frivolous and ideological issues, such as research on how to protect wind turbines from hurricanes and a project to incorporate Indigenous knowledge into studies of how climate change would affect coastal communities.

Yet experts said much of the center’s activities focused on basic atmospheric science that had little to do with political debates over climate change. “A lot of what NCAR does is atmospheric science beyond climate change, like improving short-term weather forecasts,” said Dr. Pielke, who worked at the center early in his career. “Destroying it makes no sense.”

In New Orleans, where many of the world’s top Earth science researchers are gathered for an annual meeting, the president of the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, which operates the center, said, “What we are seeing is the administration canceling the freedom of scientific thought and inquiry.”

Comment:   "canceling the freedom of scientific thought and inquiry". Yet another moronic attack on science and the quest for knowledge about our environment. "What we don't know can't hurt us."

Want to bet on that?

Comments

  • edited December 17
    In no time at all we will achieve “shithole country” status.
  • Even as the flooding in WA State continues.
  • And arctic rivers run ORANGE. Have we not ALREADY reached shit-hole status? ORK?
  • So should we invest in sharpies?
  • edited December 18
    Highlights of a post yesterday from the Balanced Weather substack, home of a retired NOAA guy who's had experience in just about every nook and cranny of atmospheric, weather, and climate research in this formerly science-supporting nation.

    Note the bold (emphasis added) section in the next to last graf: Pielke is a denier through and through, and even he thinks this move is wrong-headed.
    Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director Russell Vought announced via a statement to USA Today — and a similar post on X — that “The National Science Foundation will be breaking up the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, Colorado. This facility is one of the largest sources of climate alarmism in the country. A comprehensive review is underway and any vital activities such as weather research will be moved to another entity or location.” He told USA Today that efforts to dissolve NCAR will begin immediately, with the plan being to fully close the center’s Mesa Lab — one of the most important facilities for global atmospheric science research — in Boulder, CO.

    I think an important place to start the discussion of this story is in how it is being reported by the media. Almost every headline about this story — USA Today, NBC News, The Washington Post, The Denver Post, etc. — refers to NCAR as a “climate research center.” In my opinion, this framing is misleading and plays into the Trump Administration’s desired messaging about their plans to close NCAR. Bottom line— NCAR is an important climate research center (and there is obviously nothing wrong with that!) but it is also so much more than just a “climate research center.”

    NCAR was established by the National Science Foundation in 1960 “to provide the university community with world-class facilities and services that were beyond the reach of any individual institution” for atmospheric science research. NCAR is operated by the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR), a consortium of 120 universities with atmospheric science research programs, utilizing funding provided by NSF.

    NCAR does do important climate research, but the research supported and conducted there absolutely runs the gamut of atmospheric science from microscale meteorological processes to planetary scale waves, looking at how to improve our understanding of and forecasts for impacts such as severe storms, droughts, floods, space weather, etc. Many of the severe weather forecast tools I use and share in my newsletters come directly from the legendary Mesoscale and Microscale Meteorology (MMM) group at NCAR. Retired National Hurricane Center forecast branch chief James Franklin noted on BlueSky last night that “NCAR developed the GPS dropsonde, which revolutionized the understanding of tropical cyclone structure, improved forecasts, and validated remote sensing platforms, as documented in over 400 peer-reviewed publications in the last 25 years. And that’s just one of NCAR’s countless advances.”

    In his statement, Vought said about the NCAR dismantling that any “vital activities” such as weather research will be moved to another entity or location. To me, this shows complete ignorance of how science actually works. The NCAR Mesa Lab — along with support facilities in Wyoming and Hawaii — is a unique facility with world class scientific resources ranging from supercomputing to reconnaissance aircraft. From the earliest days of my undergraduate work in the mid-1980s, I knew that the NCAR Mesa Lab in Boulder was really the Mecca for cutting edge atmospheric research, and it was one of my career highlights to finally get to be (briefly) there for work in the late 1990s.

    The idea that you can just pull “vital” weather research activities out of a unique, vibrant scientific environment like the Mesa Lab and expect that they will just continue to roll along in the same manner somewhere else is ludicrous in my opinion. The very fact that you have world class scientists brought together to work on atmospheric science problems varying from climate change to severe thunderstorms to artificial intelligence to social science is the how and why you get the groundbreaking advances that have come from NCAR.

    It took 65 years to get NCAR to where it is today, and while I have no doubt there are ways in which it can be improved, dismantling it over a matter of months is not “improvement.” USA Today noted that Roger Pielke, Jr. — a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and noted voice of pushback against his perception of climate alarmism and politicization of climate science — said that while NCAR/UCAR is far from perfect, it is “a crown jewel of the U.S. scientific enterprise and deserves to be improved, not shuttered.”

    Media outlets including USA Today and The Colorado Sun, noted that the administration’s announcement of NCAR’s breakup and closure of the Mesa Lab comes as there has been an escalation of tensions “between between Colorado’s Democratic leaders and the Trump administration over Tina Peters, the former Mesa County clerk serving a nine-year prison sentence for orchestrating a breach of her county’s election system in search of evidence of electoral fraud. Trump has promised to retaliate against Colorado unless Peters is released. Peters, a Republican, uncovered no evidence of election wrongdoing.”
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