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Quality Investing

edited February 26 in Fund Discussions
"Quality investing is an enigma. Few, if any, investment strategies increase return
without increasing (or even cutting) risk.
But the quality factor has done just that over the past decade."

"Higher return without higher risk is counterintuitive and undermines economic theory in finance textbooks.
What’s more puzzling is that there’s no universally accepted definition of quality or consensus
on which metrics best identify it."


https://www.morningstar.com/funds/these-etfs-increase-return-without-adding-risk

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  • The Other Side of Value:The Gross Profitability Premium
    Robert Novy-Marx
    June, 2012


    Abstract

    Profitability, measured by gross profits-to-assets, has roughly the same power
    as book-to-market predicting the cross-section of average returns. Profitable
    firms generate significantly higher returns than unprofitable firms, despite having
    significantly higher valuation ratios. Controlling for profitability also dramatically
    increases the performance of value strategies, especially among the largest, most liquid
    stocks. These results are difficult to reconcile with popular explanations of the value
    premium, as profitable firms are less prone to distress, have longer cash flow durations,
    and have lower levels of operating leverage. Controlling for gross profitability explains
    most earnings related anomalies, and a wide range of seemingly unrelated profitable
    trading strategies.
  • Thank you for posting those interesting reads.

    After a quick review, I would hazard that the funds mentioned are not inexpensive.

    It also seems to me that, at least, some of the factors mentioned are available in MFO Premium. So one could search for funds that don't specifically mention quality in their name. What fun. :)
  • edited February 26
    The mentioned funds are more expensive than many large-cap index funds weighted by market capitalization.
    But they're not overly expensive.

    FQAL - 0.16%
    QUAL - 0.15%
    SPHQ - 0.15%
    JQUA - 0.12%
  • I was thinking of the P/E, P/S, P/CF, etc.
  • edited February 26
    You're correct that these quality funds are not inexpensive.
    The funds' P/E and P/B data is below.
    I didn't search for P/S or P/CF data.

    Valuation Metrics - 12/31/2024
    FQAL - 27.93 P/E; 6.65 P/B
    QUAL - 29.31 P/E; 8.90 P/B
    SPHQ - 29.68 P/E; 17.14 P/B
    JQUA - 22.89 P/E; 5.53 P/B (1/31/2025 data)
    IWB - 28.45 P/E; 4.82 P/B (iShares Russell 1000 etf for reference)
  • Some interesting comments here https://www.robeco.com/files/docm/docu-robeco-guide-to-factor-investing-global.pdf as I putter around looking at quality screens with MFO Premium
    A key concern with generic quality strategies is that they use poor definitions, which are
    sometimes even blended with other factors. For example, quality is often measured by
    financial leverage or earnings stability, which are actually more related to the low volatility
    factor. Other quality definitions – such as growth in profitability or earnings growth, but
    also an oft-used measure like return on equity (ROE) – have weak or no predictive power for
    future returns.

    As shown in Figure 7, our research 9 also shows that measures based on academic studies
    (blue bars) outperform industry-based measures (magenta bars) in global markets.
    ‘Academic’ measures are accruals, gross profitability and net stock issues, while ‘industry’
    measures include ROE, margins, ROE growth, leverage, and earnings variability.
  • edited February 26
    Fund companies define quality inconsistently using different measures.
    Obviously, this can be problematic.
    Larry Swedroe references a paper which differentiates between academic
    and industry definitions for quality investing.

    https://www.etf.com/sections/index-investor-corner/swedroe-differing-definitions-quality
  • Fund companies define quality inconsistently using different measures.
    Obviously, this can be problematic.
    Larry Swedroe references a paper which differentiates between academic
    and industry definitions for quality investing.

    https://www.etf.com/sections/index-investor-corner/swedroe-differing-definitions-quality

    Swedroe references the same article as the Robeco people.

    One finds lots of academic papers on funds and accrual strategies, but I find very few references to funds actually looking at accrual strategies, besides the quality funds from Invesco.

    Mutual Fund Premium does not track any of the academic definitions, so far as I can tell.
  • edited February 26
    StockRover includes a Novy-Marx Quality screener and Sloan Ratio metrics.
    Unfortunately, both can only be used for stocks and are not applicable for ETFs.
    I don't know how to screen mutual funds/ETFs for academics' quality measures or if this is even possible.

    Novy-Marx Quality
    It looks for quality as measured by gross profits over total assets, momentum as measured by 1 year price change and value as measured by low price to book ratios.
    This screener also filters out stocks with very low market caps and trading volumes.

    Sloan Ratio
    The Sloan Ratio identifies companies with high accrual ratios, or high non-cash income or expenses.
    Sloan found that over a 40 year period buying low accrual companies and shorting high accrual ones generated a return of more than twice the S&P 500. The ratio is computed by subtracting operating and investment cash flow from net income and dividing by total assets. If the result is between -10% and 10%
    the company is in the safe zone but if the result is greater than 25% or less than -25% earnings are likely
    to be made up of accruals. Accruals that continue across several quarters are a signal for doctored earnings.
  • jqua wins consistently (duh)

    I learned about it HERE first maybe ... 4y ago? 3y?
  • edited February 27
    JQUA outperformed SPHQ, QUAL, and VFIAX on an absolute and risk-adjusted basis
    from Dec. 2017 - Jan. 2025. The time period was constrained by available data for JQUA.

    https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&sl=1h6EglHoYVwvNJlJYjcA56
  • edited February 27
    yeah, just read the same results 'article' on ... M* maybe? linked from here :)
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