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JTWROS

edited January 2012 in Off-Topic
I'm very unhappy with the customer service at Matthews. If those funds were not doing so well going back for so many years, I'd be out of them and into something else in a flash. I had an account in my own name. I got married. I wanted to add my wife's name. They did. But it would be too simple to do just THAT. No, my original account had to be cashed out and a whole new account created with both names. Only, this joint account is a bigger pain in the ass than it's worth. Everywhere else I go, with a JTWROS assignation, EITHER or BOTH parties can do anything and everything with a portion, or with ALL of the account's proceeds.

I've gone around and around about this with them: In my entire life's experience with joint accounts--- here, there and everywhere---ONLY Matthews requires that BOTH parties sign checks to us from Matthews. So we both have to rearrange our day, in order to be at the bank at the same time or follow the other one around all day. It's useless, needless and pointless.

I KNOW there is a way to avoid doing this. I am aware that one option is to register the account with "OR" as opposed to "AND." (As in John Smith OR Jane Smith.) But the F****** SUPERVISOR told me that what they are currently requiring is the ONLY way they are permitted to handle things. There is no other way to treat the checks they send to us. Both signatures are required. BOTH of us must give the check DOUBLE the attention the thing deserves to do simple, ordinary stuff with it: cash the item, or deposit it in our bank account.

Obviously, they're not telling me something. They've not told me everything. But no one at that end will ever SAY that.....Reminds me of the time I pushed and pushed and pushed with a credit card company. I used to hold their card, and I was asking a question. The agent could not answer me. The Supervisor could not answer me. The Supervisor's supervisor finally got on the line to me, and after 20 MORE minutes of futile bullshit, with them all stonewalling me--- he finally told me: "That information is proprietary." I laughed so hard. Then I made it clear how utterly stupid, foolish and futile all of this wasted time had been. I finished with: "Oh! So you just don't WANT to tell me that information. Why didn't you give me that vapid, canned, idiotic response 45 minutes ago, and we could all go about our business?"

Ya........ And then the Matthews woman had the spleen to condescendingly offer an option to me whereby neither of us would have to worry about it, ever again: give Matthews our BANK information so that the funds can be deposited electronically....Which is beside the point and doesn't address the reason I called them about this crap. Even my own denomination is starting to REQUIRE electronic transfer of funds in March of '12 in order for all of us to receive our pension checks. Welcome to The Machine, boys and girls. (Apologies to Pink Floyd.)

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  • Yes, Maurice, you're correct. I am referring to our only joint investment account which a normal, regular, taxable investment thing. Obviously, BNY Mellon handles all of this, too. When I got the call-back last evening, it showed up on Caller I.D. as BNY Mellon, NOT Matthews. And if I insist on speaking to MATTHEWS, they just turn around and ask BNY Mellon what to do! But clearly, BNY Mellon has made a "pre-decision" choice not to offer the alternative ("or") I was describing above. And then they PHRASE their responses in such a way that it sounds as if there's nothing else they can do. Crap.
  • Well, while that's incredibly stupid of BNY Mellon, you CAN get around the crapola through an ACH setup between your bank account and the Matthews account, plus it's even easier to navigate than with an "OR" joint account minus the ACH. Doing business with ACH is no hassle, no problem, saves writing checks, quick as a mouse click. I have all my fund/broker accounts set up that way.

    Of course, next question is if they'll let you add ACH to an existing account without a stupid medallion signature guarantee. If they require that, just close your existing account and open a new one with the ACH instructions - or transfer shares to a Fido account, but that will be an even bigger hassle starting from where you are now.
  • edited January 2012
    I'm pissed, but the alternatives all require me to do MORE, not LESS. The electronic funds transfer ACH thing (like "direct deposit") means I give them more control, not less. And I have avoided doing that up till now, and I'm 57--- because ever since I was 18, I've moved around every 2, 3, 4 or at the most, 5 years. That's not going to stop, YET. And just try to un-do that ACH arrangement. NOTHING goes the way they say it will, simple and easy. Either the people screw up or the computers screw up.
  • edited January 2012
    I'm glad, along the same lines---that I did not sign-on to my denomination's 90-day prescrip. refill mail-order arrangement. The pills would still be looking for me. They made it look appealing by seeing to it that we were charged MORE to just go to an ordinary drugstore for what we needed. Again, as I have said before: welcome to The Machine.
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