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The BEST gift you can give....

edited February 2015 in Off-Topic
The Best Gift You Can Give Is STOCK....

Feb. 4, 2015 4:22 AM ET Seeking Alpha


•The best gift you can give to the next generation is stock in solid companies.
•From a young age I was blessed to be given shares of companies which drove my interest for investing and the stock market.
•The knowledge I learned through these gifts as well as the financial foundation it created developed my appreciation as the best gifts I've ever been given.
•I will demonstrate just how this practice plays out with real world data and money from my personal portfolio.
•I highly recommend this practice of giving stocks to those of the next generation while still near infancy to allow time for the investments to mature.

I believe in this practice 100%, and I still think to this day "If Only" someone would have done this for me, forget the bicycle, I'll get one...tb

the rest of the story: http://seekingalpha.com/article/2881836-the-best-gift-you-can-give-is-stock?ifp=0

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  • edited February 2015
    I've thought about this before, but I think the problem that I have is that the complexity of actually gifting shares. There are some companies where you can buy share certificates, but that seems like a bad way to go about it and the fees are ridiculous. You almost have to have the guardians set up an account (which is worth doing, but a whole thing) and then go from there.

    Would be nice if they made it easier to gift stock, but I doubt that will happen.
  • Vanguard has funds with $100 min order, Stocks I'm not sure, but Brokerage fee is $7.00, open an account in a minors name? never tried, sure there is a way....
  • Yep, there's a way. The account is in the kids names, but with an adult as custodian for the minor. 25 years ago there weren't too many fund companies that would do this (we used funds rather than stocks) but we found a few, and started IRA's for our kids when they could just barely lift a shovel (flog that toddler), paid the taxes on forms C ans SE I think, and now in their thirties have reached 'critical mass' and are on their way.
    This message brought to you in memory of Unca Lou Rukeyeser who detailed the plan in one of his newsletters:)
    best, hawk
  • edited February 2015
    doesn't one need earned income to have an IRA?

    Yep, there's a way. The account is in the kids names, but with an adult as custodian for the minor. 25 years ago there weren't too many fund companies that would do this (we used funds rather than stocks) but we found a few, and started IRA's for our kids when they could just barely lift a shovel (flog that toddler), paid the taxes on forms C ans SE I think, and now in their thirties have reached 'critical mass' and are on their way.
    This message brought to you in memory of Unca Lou Rukeyeser who detailed the plan in one of his newsletters:)
    best, hawk

  • Yes. Snow shoveling, grass mowing, grandma-sitting, etc., count. Just fill out those forms and pay the taxes.
  • great thinking!

    Yes. Snow shoveling, grass mowing, grandma-sitting, etc., count. Just fill out those forms and pay the taxes.

  • MJG
    edited February 2015
    Hi Guys,

    Lifetime learning is best done by doing and not by classroom listening. That’s why successful educators insist on a student completing daily essay and mathematics assignments. It’s a jump start to the continual learning process.

    This is not a new discovery. It’s very, very old stuff. Aristotle said: “For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them”.

    And that’s precisely why I have practiced an investing education by a gifting securities policy for almost three decades with extended family members. My gifts have not been cash nor have they been typically unwanted trivia. My gifts have been consistently Vanguard mutual fund shares to both adults and children alike.

    My gifting takes the form of a 5-gift plan. The real goal is to get family members familiar with the investment process, its benefits, and its risks. Given my anecdotal outcomes, the plan has been mostly, but not completely, a success. As a minor side-bar, a few of Vanguard’s clients are my doing.

    My 5-gift plan is simplicity itself. My gifts for various occasions started at the 100 dollar level. I gifted low fee passive Index funds using a specific product ordering. In sequential events (birthdays, Christmas) I gifted the Vanguard 500 Index fund, a Vanguard International fund, and a Vanguard total bond fund. These served as a low cost, diversification lesson.

    The fourth gift is a Vanguard small cap value Index product. At that time I make an effort to explain the research that supports this portfolio component as a likely annual returns augmenter.

    My fifth gift is a test. It is cash accompanied with a question about how it will be spent. In most instances the answer is that the money will be added to the Vanguard account. I measure this outcome as success.

    I believe my gifting program both has contributed to the overall family wealth, and has encouraged family members to become more proactive in learning the ins-and-outs of investing. I continue my plan to this day. It seems to work well.

    Best Wishes.
  • MJG,

    How did you go about gifting in terms of literally giving the shares? Did you have the guardians open an account for the shares to go into, did you put an account in their name, etc? Thanks.
  • MJG
    edited February 2015
    Hi Scott,

    I don't recall specific details because it changed depending on age, the family relationship, and time period. For our kids, my wife opened the accounts. With relatives, it often took the form of cash with specific instructions. The instructions were uniformly executed. I always added an increment to cover execution costs which in the past were high. Luckily, we also enjoy high trust levels within our family. That makes life relatively easy.

    Thank you for your question. Sorry I don't have a detailed answer, but in our case, a single answer doesn't exist.

    My very best regards, especially for your detailed and excellent replies to the many MFOer's complex questions. The scope of your knowledge base in truly impressive.
  • Vanguard will walk you thru any account openings...later it will be automatic to you for other new accounts...other firms I don't know

    MJG, your family will appreciate you more & more as they reach retirement and realize what you did for them (much more than a bicycle).....priceless...tb
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