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Scott Burns: Keeping Up With The Retired Joneses

FYI: Think of this as a tale of two households. They live side by side. Their houses are equal in value. They have the same income, but from different sources. They drive nearly identical cars. We could write quirky folk songs about this.

But there is one big difference. One family is retired, in their late sixties. The younger family is middle aged— new empty
nesters.
Regards,
Ted
http://assetbuilder.com/scott_burns/keeping_up_with_the_retired_joneses

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  • edited January 2015
    SB is always worthwhile...thanks for posting.
  • edited January 2015
    And the habits that may allow one to discover "wealth" in the first place.....

    Use the MFO Amazon link for these books. Scroll down on the link pages for a short book description. We give these as wedding presents for the young ones.

    The Millionaire Next Door

    The Power of Habit

    The first book is directed towards spending habits; while the second book is directed towards the study of "habits" and how to consider "adjustments".

    Take care,
    Catch
  • Can you say SPENDING habits?
  • "Spending habits".

    That is really the crux of the matter. The more one spends on junk and wanna-have items, that is less money to invest. Just think of the average Joe and Judy who buy all kinds of stuff and fill up their garage only to sell it later on for a dime on the dollar if they are lucky. That same money going into a well managed or a index fund would grow for their future.



  • I came across this statement recently. Is there any truth to it ?
    Thanks for any replies, Derf


    Dec 27, 2014







    The reason: The federal code provides that there is no tax on capital gains or qualifying dividends for people in the 15% income tax bracket. That means that a Los Angeles married couple filing jointly for 2014 with $94,100 of adjusted gross income, all from long-term capital gains and qualifying dividends, would pay nothing — zero! — in federal income tax. But their California tax bill would be north of $3,000.
  • Basically correct. To the extent that your taxable income remains within the 15% tax bracket, your cap gains/qualified divs gets taxed at 0%.

    In 2014, if a couple had $94,100 in AGI (all cap gains/qualified divs), then line 38 (AGI on p. 2) would be $94,100. Subtracting a standard deduction of $12,400 gets us down to $81,700. Subtracting two exemptions ($3,950 each), gets us to a taxable income of $73,800.

    Taxable income under $73,800 is taxed at 15% (or less). So if that's your total income, the cap gains/qualified div portion of it is taxed at 0%.
  • I know CA. has a high cost of living but can anyone here say if $94,100 for a couple is okay? I could figure that in No. CA that might be pretty good but what about Bay area or LA and So. Cal?
  • Many retirees draw from IRAs, etc, which are taxed as regular income. Also 94k might be ok in SoCal if you owned your home outright. Otherwise it would be very tight.
  • $94 K and no taxes, no payments & small bills in Florida you live Like a KING,
    I forgot, NO state Taxes,
    PS. you wouldn't like it
  • If you've owned your home for a long time, then in Calif., courtesy of Prop 13, you're paying absurdly low property taxes.

    And for retirees, Calif. has a one-time get out of jail free card - if you want to downsize, you can take that low assessment with you to your new home (in the same county or one of a handful other other counties) - Props 60 and 90.
  • edited January 2015
    @TPA: Live like a king? Not in the lower Keys. Hell, you couldn't afford to live in a decent mobile home park down there on that. Could you?

    Maybe if you owned your home free and clear. But taxable valuations must be high. Grocery prices appear about 50% higher than in the northern states.
    -
    Of course many down there consider themselves to be a separate nation.:)
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