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I agree with the general view that, as cman put it, this planner sounds like a used car salesman. For two reasons: the annuity suggestion and more importantly the pressure to invest now.
However, I'm not ready to condemn the rest. Had the annuity suggestion come with a discussion of how income might be coordinated with Social Security, how much was needed at what time, this could have been a reasonable discussion and proposal.
"In this day and age", people are getting pushed into wrap accounts, typically costing 1%/year. Compared to this, a portfolio of American Funds A shares could look like a positive bargain. The front end load, once paid, is done with. If you switch from one American Fund mutual fund to another, there is no additional charge.
Further, the family seems to give breakpoints based on total AUM (excluding MMF), not just investment in the fund being purchased. It shouldn't take many years before an American Funds portfolio (A shares) comes out less expensive than one managed as a newfangled wrap account.
The shares the planner was recommending were A shares. These have a 3.75% (or less) front end load. B shares are no longer offered by American Funds.
The fact that 3.75% was mentioned as the load for these shares says that we're talking about less than a $100K total investment (across all American Fund mutual funds). Because that's where the load drops to 2.5%.
I'm curious about the 75/25 recommendation. That's more aggressive than "conventional wisdom" suggests. Not that I necessarily disagree with it, but rather that it could suggest that the friend needed hefty returns for retirement. But that seems to contradict the comment that she was in good shape due to the life insurance policy. Perhaps this indicates the planner wasn't paying attention (which would be enough to rule him out), or perhaps there are other issues we don't know about.
In any case, it sounds like there's a fair amount of miscommunication going on.
You mention that you're currently maxing out your Roth IRA but are you also maxing out your 401k?I can tell you that 75% of the portfolio is in taxable accounts because it is inherited money. The remaining 25% is in tax-deferred accounts (401K, Roth IRA, Rollover IRA). I'm maxing out my Roth IRA each year, but there's not much else I can do with this breakdown. As a result, taxes are a concern moving forward.
Of course the planner is receiving trailing fees (12b-1) from the funds. Not loads. An obvious tip off is the use of TRP Advisor class shares. These are shares with an extra 0.25% 12b-1 fee. Quoting from a TRP prospectus:Advisory Fee Programs. Shares acquired by an investor in connection
with a comprehensive fee or other advisory fee arrangement between
the investor and a registered broker-dealer or investment adviser, trust
company or bank (referred to as the “Sponsor”) in which the investor
pays that Sponsor a fee for investment advisory services and the
Sponsor or a broker-dealer through whom the shares are acquired has
an agreement with Distributors authorizing the sale of Fund shares.
The question I would ask is whether the wrap fee is reduced by the amount of trailing fees that the planner receives.Advisor Class shares are sold only through unaffiliated brokers and other unaffiliated financial intermediaries that are compensated by the class for distribution, shareholder servicing, and/or certain administrative services under a Board-approved Rule 12b-1 plan.
I had a similar reaction to the taxable account issue. (Glad you jumped in first to serve as the lightning rod :-))@willmatt72
A note about the taxable status of the majority of the monies.
Add this to your list of things to do :) ......
Fidelity Personal Retirement Annuity
The above link is an overview with some other internal links and a short video.
This link is for the investment choices within the annuity.
Normally, I am not a fan of annuities; as sold by insurance companies. However, if our house were to inherit a sum of money beyond our current needs, we would fully review the above annuity plan in order to defer taxation. A few notes from my recall about this product......55 fund choices, no brokerage feature (so no stock, etf, index or other vendor funds available, except the few along with the Fidelity choices). The cost of the annuity is .25% added to the expense ratio of a given fund. No surrender or holding periods that lock up the money at a cost, as is common with annuities. Review the exchange restrictions among the funds; as there are limits as to how often one may move monies around within the annuity.
Fidelity is not the only company to offer a similar plan; but I don't have that MFO discussion at hand and short of time today.
The short term downside for this would be the taxation of the sale of current holdings in order to fund such a plan.
Anyhoo........perhaps something to review relative to your circumstance.
Take care of you and yours,
Catch
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