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  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    Clarifying the Janus Fund Name
    09-26-14 Announcement from Janus CEO Richard Weil
    Bill will help us build out a new Global Macro Fixed Income business and he will be named the Portfolio Manager of the recently launched Janus Global Unconstrained Bond Fund
    Fund Page (D Class): Janus Global Unconstrained Bond
    With a current E.R. of 96 bps and 08-31-14 net assets of $12.9 Million.
    Holdings and Details
    Footnote:
    Effective October 6, 2014, the Fund's name changes from Janus Unconstrained Bond Fund to Janus Global Unconstrained Bond Fund with the transition of the Fund to William Gross
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    What? No B shares?
    This is what happens when you have fund families that try to sell funds through all channels - traditional (load-based) advisors, wrap accounts, direct retail, supermarket, retirement plan, and institutional. Three families come to mind - Janus, PIMCO, and American Century. I'm sure there are others.
    Anyway, though Janus uses a couple of unconventional letters for some of their share classes, the classes you listed follow these basic channels:
    traditional load - A, C (front load, level load)
    D - direct retail sale (no 12b-1 fee, but 0.12% admin fee, for bookkeeping)
    I - institutional (no admin/12b-1 fees)
    N - retirement (no admin/12b-1 fees)
    T - supermarket (0.25% admin fee)
    S - wrap accounts (0.25% admin fee, plus 0.25% 12b-1 fee)
    Some more common designations are Inv(estor) for directly sold noload shares, Adv(isor) for wrap or supermarket shares.
    Many families use R to denote retirement class shares (or just use I shares w/o creating a different share class).
    Usually, fund families use the same share class for more than one channel, which is why you don't often see as many as seven (or eight, with B shares) different classes.
    (I'm not going into families that charge different fees depending on how big the account is - notably American Funds; but also Vanguard with Investor/Admiral, Institutional/Institutional Plus, Signal, ETF. These are just a couple of the more obvious families.)
    For all this confusion, one nice thing about Janus is that if you're buying on your own, you only have to worry about T class (unless you're one of the grandfathered investors buying directly from Janus, in which case you just look at D shares). You don't have to think about multiple share classes.
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    Can't stand the "Alphabet Soup" of mutual fund share classes, and the marketing/sales of funds with loads.
    If they want to have a retail share class and an institutional share class, that's more than enough.
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  • Has the Fat Lady Sung at Sears?
    It has been speculated that part of the reason for Lampert's loan is that there was an attempt to sell the interest in Sears Canada and there were no takers.
    http://seekingalpha.com/news/1994365-report-lack-of-interest-in-sears-canada
    From the NY Post Article:
    "As reported by The Post earlier this week, an auction by Chicago-based Sears Holdings of its 51 percent stake in Sears Canada failed to attract any bids in its second round.
    That’s because prospective bidders in the auction run by Bank of America got spooked after getting a look at the company’s fast-deteriorating financials, sources said."
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    Doug Kass: Buy Oaktree (OAK) On Gross's Departure
    http://blogs.barrons.com/focusonfunds/2014/09/26/seabreeze-buy-oaktree-on-grosss-departure/?mod=BOLBlog
    "Instead, Kass says he is buying into Oaktree stock, on the basis of their 22% ownership stake in DoubleLine Capital—which was also in talks with Gross, Jeff Gundlach confirmed this morning. “At $50/share, Oaktree’s stock is well off their early 2014 high of over $62 and, arguably possesses the best management team in the industry,” Kass says."
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    Maybe I'm reading too much into this paragraph from the PR, but it doesn't seem to me that Gross will have anything to do with JUCDX:
    Mr. Gross will ... be responsible for building-out the firm’s efforts in global macro fixed income strategies. His concentration on such strategies will be separate and complementary to Janus’ existing and highly successful credit-based fixed income platform, built under the leadership of Janus’ Fixed Income Chief Investment Officer, Gibson Smith.
    JUDCX is run by Gibson Smith (and Darrell W. Watters).
    Gross' star value could pull money into all of Janus' bond funds even if he has nothing to do with them, so you still might see that boost in inflows.
    (My error in mentioning this fund/share class in an earlier post I made to this thread; I was following up on another post that described this fund as a load fund.)
    Edit Definitely not having a good day. My error, again. Thanks to JohnChisum for pointing out that Janus quickly changed the name of the fund. So it seems Gross steamrolled Smith. Here's the SEC filing, dated today, short and sweet (fund name changed, Gross in as manage, Smith and Watters out):
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/277751/000095012314009838/d31178e497.htm
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    He seems to like closed end bond funds a lot, especially when trading at a discount to NAV. Probably Janus doesn't have that, nor the variety of bond fund choices Bill Gross is used to. Right now JUCTX has less than 13 million in assets! I always like when a manager goes big into his own fund.
    Did you hear the high words of praise for Bill Gross coming from Jack Bogle? Pretty amazing coming from Bogle.
    http://www.mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/discussion/15862/vanguard-s-bogle-bill-gross-is-real-deal-video-presentation-how-gross-landed-at-janus#latest
  • The Closing Bell: U.S. Stocks Bounce Back
    FYI: Investors were cautiously stepping in after Thursday's selloff, though volumes were relatively subdued, a sign that some investors were opting for a wait-and-see approach, traders said. On Thursday, the Dow shed 1.5% and the S&P 500 declined 1.6% amid a flurry of concerns.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-stock-futures-slightly-higher-1411734069#printMode
    Markets At A Glance: http://markets.wsj.com/us
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    Instead of starting a new thread, I'll just note here that the biggest mutual fund beneficiary of this (speaking of TODAY only) is Ariel Fund ARGFX. My calculator says it will pick up about 1.4% today on Janus alone. Should gain 2.5% or more on the day which will take it all the way from well below average to downright subpar for the year! Yay!
  • PDI
    Last evening, I had posted that I was looking to add to PDI on a dip. The NAV performance of the fund has been good (I think better than the open-ended version PIMIX) and increases in the discount had represented good buying opportunities. This morning, with the news about Gross, I was anticipating buying PDI on a pullback. However, I have had a chance to rethink this more and am holding off on any buys of PDI. A big reason is that Gross is one of the biggest holders of PDI. I don't know whether he will now liquidate his holdings in PDI but his previous purchases had often acted as a floor on the market prices of PDI.
    According to Yahoo, he holds 1,195,534 shares of PDI
    http://biz.yahoo.com/t/48/5911.html
    According to M*, the largest institutional holder of PDI is Morgan Stanley Smith Barney, with 912,132 shares.
    http://investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-major.html?t=PDI&region=usa&culture=en-US&ownerCountry=USA
    GLTA
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    Just to confirm: the new Gross fund is Unconstrained Bond, not "Global Unconstrained Bond." The Unconstrained Bond fund prospectus contains only one limit on the income-producing securities in which it might invest: no more than 50% of the portfolio may be invested in emerging markets. It is, otherwise, unconstrained and lists loans, international bonds, preferred stock, dividend paying common stock, money markets, junk bonds, derivatives and zero-coupons among its options.
    Gross will lead a new Global Macro division of Janus headquartered in Newport Beach CA, just over a thousand miles distant from the Mile High investment headquarters.
    More soon,
    David
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    JUCAX the Class A version of the Janus Unconstrained Bond Fund (Inception: May 2014) carries a 4.75% front load. Can't imagine a typical small investor paying such a load today for any bond fund. There are however several other share classes (likely for institutions, large investors, and retirement plans) that do not carry a load.
  • Bill Gross Joins Janus Capital
    @hank: I'm shocked ! It looks like the king is dead, long live the king. JNS up 39% in pre-market.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-bond-kings-reign-really-over-2014-09-25/print
  • Slammed
    What an awful day overall.
    And, IMHO, on no real news.
    No event occurred that has not already been with us.
    Just, lack of data. And this ubiquitous (if unfounded) fear that the market is over-heated...that a drawdown is past due.
    As if it's been too good for the past 5 or so years, so...time to retract.
    The fact that returns in SP500 over past 10-15 years have been abysmal appears to be forgotten fact in the current clamor that the market is over-extended.
    Be it the CAPE crusaders. The prognosticates of D3...deficits, debt and demographics. Or, those convinced another 50% drop is right around the corner...just because.
    Is it that we must pay for sins of our fathers...excessive returns of the 1980-90s?
    Again, apologies...just my humble opinion.
    Honestly, earnings season can't come fast enough for me.
    Perhaps then, the market will get back to movements based on data.
    c
  • Fairholme Fund's Bruce Berkowitz On This Weekend's Wealthtrack
    http://wealthtrack.com/
    "His largest holding is insurer AIG (AIG), which makes up about half of the fund’s portfolio. His second largest position is Bank of America (BAC) at 14.5%. Next are the two so called government sponsored entities, GSE’s known as Fannie Mae (FNMA) and Freddie Mac (FMCC), which he started purchasing over the past year. Combined they add up to 15% of the portfolio."
    "He’ll explain why nearly 80% of his portfolio is in four financial stocks shunned by most investors."
    "If you are unable to join us for the show on television, you can watch it on our website, WealthTrack.com, starting over the weekend. If you’d like to see it earlier, it is available to our PREMIUM subscribers right now. We also have an EXTRA interview with Berkowitz about a new venture he is undertaking in Miami, exclusively on our website."
    +++++++++++
    He also has 6.97% in Sears (SHLD), and 6.35% in St. Joe (JOE)
    That's the bulk of the portfolio.
  • Fairholme: May Also Be Participating in Sears loan via St Joe (JOE)
    Or...maybe not.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-25/sears-investor-fairholme-says-st-joe-won-t-participate-in-loan.html?cmpid=yhoo
    "The St. Joe Co. was unable to agree on terms for such a participation in light of its investment criteria and has declined the opportunity to participate,” Fairholme said today in a filing."
    Edited to Add:
    Berkowitz selling shares:
    Sep 25, 2014 BERKOWITZ BRUCE R
    Beneficial Owner (10% or more)
    15,900 Indirect Sale at $26.05 per share. 414,195
    Sep 24, 2014 BERKOWITZ BRUCE R
    Beneficial Owner (10% or more)
    10,500 Indirect Sale at $26.40 per share. 277,200
    My question is: is this Berkowitz selling personal shares (It would appear so?) If so, is he selling before the mutual fund is....?
  • If junk bonds (corporates) lead equities, it's looking real iffy
    Somewhere I have an article by an academic (ugh!) that of all the indicators out there for the equity market, the best is the junk bond market. I have never been real enamored of that one as my introduction to junk bonds was in January 1991. Back then equities were coming out of a 3 month mini-bear market and *led* the junk bond market out of one its worst bear markets on record. However, in 2008, that historic bear market in junk ended in mid-December 2008 while equities didn't bottom until early March 2009. So back then junk indeed was the leader. This time around, the average junk bond open end fund and the junk bond ETF topped in late June/early July. There was much made back then about how the small time investors had panicked while the smart money swooped in and picked up the pieces. The smart money (never met them in over 45 years at this game) is not looking real smart right now as junk is getting ready to take out its recent lows. And in the chart below of one of the junk ETFs ( a really ugly chart) that low has already been taken out.
    Note: My comments are meant as philosophical entertainment only. I have found my opinions and the opinions of any other talking heads are pretty worthless when it comes to accumulating wealth. No one, absolutely no one can predict or forecast with any consistent accuracy in the short run. That's why I listen only to the action of the market itself and adjust my positions accordingly. I would hate to think where I would be had I listened to my own opinions or the opinions of others over the years.
    http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=hyld&insttype=&freq=&show=
  • Small Caps Rule Core Fund Over Long Run
    FYI: Small-cap core mutual funds, which invest in both growth and value stocks, have outperformed their midcap and large-cap peers in the past 15 years.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://license.icopyright.net/user/viewFreeUse.act?fuid=MTg0OTcxMTE=
    Core Fund Over Past 15 Years Enmlarged Graphic;
    http://news.investors.com/photopopup.aspx?path=WEBlv092514.gif&docId=718916&xmpSource=&width=1000&height=1152&caption=&id=718914