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  • Somebody Ate My Fund
    As of November 20, my TDA Roth account no longer holds MGDPX, but it has MIGPX. They are both global funds and have the same managers, but I did not want another LCG global when I first bought. Still waiting for an explanation of this notation in my transactions record for 11/20: " MANDATORY - EXCHANGE." Morgan Stanley's web site offers no help. I can't find updated pricing for MGDPX anywhere. The fund did make its hefty distributions on 11/15. I remain mystified.
  • Royce International Discovery Fund to liquidate
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/709364/000094937718000265/trf-rmi497.htm
    497 1 trf-rmi497.htm
    The Royce Fund
    Supplement to the Investment, Service, and Institutional Class Shares Prospectus Dated May 1, 2018
    Royce International Discovery Fund
    The Royce Fund’s Board of Trustees approved a plan of liquidation for Royce International Discovery Fund, to be effective on December 28, 2018. The Fund is being liquidated primarily because it has not attracted and maintained assets at a sufficient level for it to be viable. As of November 1, 2018, the Fund was no longer offering its shares for purchase and was not accepting any investments.
    November 27, 2018
    RMI-SUPP-CLOSE
  • AQR’s Cliff Asness Loses His Cool
    FYI:
    It was an unusually intemperate Tweet, even by Cliff Asness standards.
    On Wednesday, the billionaire co-founder of AQR — a quantitative investment firm managing $226 billion — and Twitter raconteur engaged in heated argument on the social media platform with a user tweeting under the handle @Steinernomics.
    “Asked and answered, you stupid fuck,” Asness wrote and retweeted an earlier comment, refuting a point made by @Steinernomics in the middle of a long thread.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b1c00l346hfp6d/AQR-s-Cliff-Asness-Loses-His-Cool
  • Analyst Who Nailed 2018 Has Same S&P 500 Forecast For Next Year
    @MIkeM: I'm thinking you just might be right. With this whipsaw market it looks like 3000 has slipped away. Still see an outside chance (10%).
    Regards,
    Ted :)
  • Morgan Stanley's GIC Weekly
    @MFO Members: If this is from 11/19, rather than 11/26, switch browser to Chrome.
    Regards,
    Ted
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    I think we're in agreement here. If one buys a "go anywhere" international fund that really does go anywhere, then one is delegating regional allocations. Then one should simply benchmark against a global ex-US index and not complain about the world regions it wanders into.
    However, that's not the way many funds function. IMHO, the difference between a traditional balanced (60/40) fund and a moderate "allocation" fund is that the latter has a little more wiggle room to make tactical shifts. But it's still going to be meandering near that 60/40 "set point", and so should be benchmarked that way.
    Likewise, if one picks an international fund that holds around 1/5 in EM, then one should keep that in mind when fleshing out one's portfolio. So long as the fund doesn't lose big relative to its set point allocation, then as you wrote, "that's fine".
  • Analyst Who Nailed 2018 Has Same S&P 500 Forecast For Next Year
    FYI: Mike Wilson, the biggest equity bear on Wall Street whose prediction has proved prescient this year, has a similar outlook for 2019.
    The chief U.S. equity strategist at Morgan Stanley forecast that the S&P 500 will end next year at 2,750, the same level he forecast for 2018. That’s about 3 percent above the index’s current level. With five weeks to go for the year, Wilson’s estimate is by far the closest of all estimates to coming true.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-26/analyst-who-nailed-2018-has-same-s-p-500-forecast-for-next-year?srnd=premium
    His "On The Markets For November"
    https://www.morganstanleyfa.com/public/projectfiles/onthemarkets.pdf
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Interesting. DODFX (down 13%+ YTD) has cranked out better than 10% average annual returns over the past 10 years. And over that longer period ranks in the top 5% (5th percentile) of its peers according to Lipper. Gets back to what I said earlier about needing a long time horizon and a lot of patience to invest with these guys. I’d be loath to give up on it.
  • IOFIX
    Junkster said:
    "Very early January may set the tone on where to be in Bondland for 2019. Maybe the formerly crowded trades such as PTIAX and PIMIX will return to the fore?"
    Junkster,
    So you are hopeful that the Fed announces they will stop raising rates QUARTERLY after the late Dec-2018 hike? Seems to be 2 different schools of thought on that topic right now. I think the Fed is likely to continue raising rates all next year (3x or 4x in 2019). Asset bubbles will continue to "lose air." Its overdue.
    Just the opposite. I would be ecstatic if the the Fed raised three or four times in 2019 and for several reasons. I personally don’t think they will but I never trade or invest on opinions, especially my own - just the action of the market. I rarely trade/invest in multi sector funds the ilk of PIMIX/PTIAX anyway. Just that they don’t seem to be overcrowded trades like they were going into this year.
  • No Refuge For Investors As 2018 Rout Sends Stocks, Bonds, Oil Lower
    The WSJ link did not work for me. This link includes at least a partial (full?) copy of the article....
    All told, 90% of the 70 asset classes tracked by Deutsche Bank are posting negative total returns in dollar terms for the year through mid-November, the highest share since 1901. (The S&P 500 is up slightly in 2018 on a total-return basis.) Last year, just 1% of asset classes delivered negative returns.
    https://dollarcollapse.com/short-everything-in-sight-market/
  • No Refuge For Investors As 2018 Rout Sends Stocks, Bonds, Oil Lower
    FYI: The failure of so many investment strategies is viewed by some as a warning of what could come following years of above-average returns.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-refuge-for-investors-as-2018-rout-sends-stocks-bonds-oil-lower-1543155033?mod=hp_lead_pos5
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Let me try fine tuning VF's statement slightly. Instead of "YOU are supposed to know how much exposure you should have to the market", try: YOU are supposed to know how much exposure you should have to various markets.
    If you invested 100% in a (relatively) well performing gold fund, its your problem for having picked the gold market instead of having invested in, say, a mediocre bank loan fund this year.
    DODFX has roughly treaded water. If one buys into DODFX (this year or any time), one is choosing to invest around 1/5 in EM stock and the rest in developed market stock. No bonds, no gold, no pork bellies. YOU make that decision. Given what DODFX invests in, it continues to do okay relative to its market.
    Foreign Large Blend YTD: -11.93%
    Emerging Markets YTD: -15.80%
    80/20 mix YTD: 80% x -11.93% + 20% x -15.80% = -12.70%
    DODFX YTD: -13.64%
  • IOFIX
    Junkster said:
    "Very early January may set the tone on where to be in Bondland for 2019. Maybe the formerly crowded trades such as PTIAX and PIMIX will return to the fore?"
    Junkster,
    So you are hopeful that the Fed announces they will stop raising rates QUARTERLY after the late Dec-2018 hike? Seems to be 2 different schools of thought on that topic right now. I think the Fed is likely to continue raising rates all next year (3x or 4x in 2019). Asset bubbles will continue to "lose air." Its overdue.
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    Current Morningstar rating of the 6 Dodge&Cox funds show 4 funds with a 5 Star rating and 2 funds with a 4 Star rating. Not too many fund companies with multiple funds can beat that.
    I think their “gross” underperformance in ‘08 was likely a one-time occurrence. But, can’t say for certain. However, D&C’s funds will normally give you a rougher ride for sure. Not for the “queasy”.
    Long term (10+ year out) if one has a lot of patience they’re a hard act to beat IMHO. A lot of that is due to their very competitive ERs. Not many investors today possess that degree of patience. Actually, now in my 70s, I don’t possess that degree of patience either. I continue to hold slices of DODBX, DODIX and DODLX, but now avoid their equity funds.
  • All Dodge & Cox Funds Trending Down
    @Mark is correct. D&C was a train-wreck during the late ‘07 to early ‘09 market collapse. One of the worst performers across all their equity funds. Some of their funds lost more than 50% during that 2-3 year period. Their balanced fund, DODBX, held up better, but also was hammered relative to peers. Reading their commentaries back than, D&C management blamed unanticipated and unusual government intervention during the crisis, in part, for their poor performance.
    I’m sorry I can’t remember exactly what transpired, but believe it had to do with the government and courts’ failures to hold accountable issuers of (defunct) obligations D&C held. D&C got stung good on some of that paper. I believe they contested it in court to no avail.
    I stuck with them, shifting more and more into their most beaten-up funds as markets crumbled. At the end of the mess I had 100% in DODWX, which bounced nicely in ‘09.
    Personally, I don’t understand or pay much attention to moving averages. But I do believe in spreading risk around. That means D&C is but one of several houses I entrust my life savings to. I’ve always considered them a bit more aggressive than the average fund manager in their equity and balanced funds. So you need to be prepared to take a little bigger hit in down markets.
    You can read about the 2008 misery in the linked Dodge & Cox Annual Report, dated December 31, 2008: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/29440/000119312509037454/dncsr.htm
    In the report, reference is made to their failure to foresee “the likelihood of government interventions” in the crisis as one cause of their poor performance.
  • IOFIX
    Adding to @Junkster and his note about the (14 day RSI in the 90s). The "teal" color at the top of this chart is the RSI section above the 70 number. One finds the available range of 100 (overbought, too hot to handle/buy) to 0 (oversold, dying or dead) for a FULL RSI scale.
    3 year IOFIX chart
    --- A more typical chart for a well performing fund, being FSMEX, and one will see the periodic moves above the "70". I reference this particular fund for its long term performance overview and typical bumps in the road. The 10 year annualized = 19.3%.
    3 year chart, FSMEX
    I suspect that Junkster will agree that the IOFIX chart and the implication is very exceptional to the rule.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • IOFIX
    Darn, Junkster, you play around only with the institutional versions? Big-time player.
    I had sold 90% of my IOFIX a few weeks back, and today I sold that last 10%. Not sure what comes next, so sitting in cash (FZDXX).
    Eyeballing RCRFX (RCRIX). RCRIX has been really steady, and the retail version is new.
    Big time player? I wish. More like a small time player who is old enough to have accumulated enough and more for the institutional shares. Very early January may set the tone on where to be in Bondland for 2019. Maybe the formerly crowded trades such as PTIAX and PIMIX will return to the fore?
  • Discussion with a Portfolio Manager
    @PBKCM: I see you've been doing very well over the last year with KCMTX !
    Regards,
    Ted
    Fund Return: Category Return: S&P 500: %Rank: Quntile:
    YTD 4.68% -4.63% 0.84% 5% 1
    1yr 8.85% -3.55% 3.95% 2% 1
    3yr2 10.11% 2.46% 10.48% 1% 1
    5yr2 7.67% 1.38% 10.34% 1% 1
    10yr2 8.32% 6.29% 15.15% 14% 1