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Introduction
1 Using MSCI data, the 35-year outperformance to December 2024 was 4.7.% p.a. Relative valuation change contributed 3.8%, real
EPS growth edge 1.1%, dividend yield differential -0.6%, and real interest rate differential -0.3%. Exhibit 4 below shows similar
decompositions for other windows and also for dividend-based decompositions with Dimson-Marsh-Staunton data.
2 Of course, this is not a new debate. The pro-diversification literature includes Asness-Israel-Liew (2011) who show global
diversification helps over long horizons, and Dimson-Marsh-Staunton (2021) who explore the role of luck, with the US being on the
winning side of world wars and the cold war and its related economic competition, and having no wars on its own soil, revolutions or
hyperinflations. Asness-Ilmanen-Villalon (2023) find that most of US outperformance since 1990 reflects relative CAPE valuation
increase.
Part 2 of this series cuts straight to a very
topical investment decision: the allocation
between US equities and the rest of the world,
mainly focusing on developed markets.
US equities outperformed other markets in the
1990s, and the 15 years from 2009 to 2024. The
prolonged latter episode reinforced a belief
in US exceptionalism (tied to entrepreneurial
culture, market-friendly institutions, etc.) and
led many investors (especially home-biased
US ones) to ask whether they should bother
with international diversification when it
seemed to be such a return drag. Big names
like Warren Buffett and John Bogle have been
proud US-only proponents, and this view has
paid off.
There are several counterarguments. We show
that US outperformance since 1990 primarily
reflects richening relative valuations.1 By
the end of 2024, relative valuations were at a
historically extreme level, and we argue that
some mean reversion is a sounder assumption
than extrapolation of further richening.2
Moreover, while many investors do not
have first-hand memories of the pre-GFC
investment landscape, they should know that
the US has underperformed the rest of the
world for extended periods, for example the
decades of 2000s, 1980s, and 1970s. That
said, the US has enjoyed an average return
and growth edge over the past 50 or 100+
years—though not as large as implied by
recent valuations. We suspect that the recent
high valuations and predicted abnormal
growth edge partly reflect investors mistaking
the richening-driven return outperformance
for growth-driven outperformance (which
would be more reasonable to extrapolate).
We acknowledge that in the past decade,
valuation-based capital market assumptions
(CMAs) have given too pessimistic forecasts on
absolute and relative US market performance.
But we also show that over longer histories
such CMAs have been more often right than
wrong, while rearview-mirror expectations
(extrapolating the past decade’s relative
performance) have hurt investors. An
investor’s current view on US versus the rest
is a Rorschach test on whether they care more
about one recent observation or longer-term
statistical evidence.
We also briefly discuss diversification and
luck arguments, and the implications of US
“Magnificent Seven” and tech edges and
America First economic policies.
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Hi Observant1. I got in but I still had to step through and opt out of a couple of Firefox security blocks even after I thought I removed the security in the settings for this website. It is good to know it is my problem and not a problem with chip's test site. I think I will go away and not disrupt since it seems my settings are still wrong and that make me disruptive, not helpful.
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(03-16-2026, 04:17 PM)Anna Wrote: Hi Observant1. I got in but I still had to step through and opt out of a couple of Firefox security blocks even after I thought I removed the security in the settings for this website. It is good to know it is my problem and not a problem with chip's test site. I think I will go away and not disrupt since it seems my settings are still wrong and that make me disruptive, not helpful.

Hi Anna,

I receive a "Secure Site Not Available" alert when using Firefox.
My Firefox browser is configured to use HTTPS-Only mode.
I click on the "Continue to HTTP Site" button.
I click "Ignore" and received the following mesaget: "SEC Error Expired Issuer Certificate".
Finally, I click the  "Accept the Risk and Continue" button to access the new site..

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Executive Summary
In recent years allocators to global equities have faced the conundrum of
how to respond to persistent US outperformance. Some serenely maintained
market cap weights despite ever more extreme relative valuations, others
pursued the contrarian view implied by yield-based expected returns, and
yet others gave up entirely on the rest of the world, as the US seemed so
strongly placed to foster technological innovation, earnings growth and
investor returns.
We address this highly topical regional question by analyzing the drivers of
relative performance—in particular the different roles of fundamentals and
valuations—and assessing the most likely implications for future returns.

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Yes, that sounds like the route I had to take in Firefox (similar in Edge). I got through but still haven't figured out what Old Joe did to get Firefox to open the site without going through all that. In the long run it isn't the type of problem that will matter since the new site will have the security/certificate etc. all done.
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The new site does not like DuckDuck Go and gave warning for insecurity.  I waive the warning and move on from there. 

BTW, DuckDuck Go browser shows your internet browsing is being tracked.
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Hi Sven- I don't use the DuckDuckGo Browser - just the search engine.

In the "Technical Questions" forum on MFO-2 check out my latest test posts with formatting very similar to that which I use on MFO-1. It's looking pretty good.
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(03-19-2026, 03:37 PM)Old_Joe Wrote: Hi Sven- I don't use the DuckDuckGo Browser - just the search engine.

In the "Technical Questions" forum on MFO-2 check out my latest test posts with formatting very similar to that which I use on MFO-1. It's looking pretty good.
I saw that, nice.  You have solved the issue i am having. 

Do you import your “quote” by cut-and-paste into the body first?  This is where i have hit or miss issue. 

I also use Safari browser on my iPad. Not so much with Chrome.
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OK, so here's the setup at this end:

• Using desktop Mac Mini
• Have constructed article posting format on Text Edit
• To use, copy formatting from Text Edit to new post on MFO-2
• On MFO-2 simply replace xxx from Text Edit with appropriate new info.

Here is the setup for articles from The Guardian-

Hed

Following are excerpts from a current report in The Guardian :

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I opened a new thread this morning on copy-&-paste and the tiny default font that I have to change manually each time.
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(03-19-2026, 03:57 PM)Old_Joe Wrote: OK, so here's the setup at this end:

• Using desktop Mac Mini
• Have constructed article posting format on Text Edit
• To use, copy formatting from Text Edit to new post on MFO-2
• On MFO-2 simply replace xxx from Text Edit with appropriate new info.

Here is the setup for articles from The Guardian-

Hed

Following are excerpts from a current report in The Guardian :

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Quote: Blockquote
Quote:Investors in oil ETFs have seen a windfall this year as the war between the U.S./Israel and Iran has severely disrupted shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, effectively bringing traffic out of the Gulf region to a standstill.

The United States Oil Fund (USO) and the United States Brent Oil Fund (BNO) are each up around 68% so far this year.
Those gains are ahead of the roughly 66% and 64% increases in front-month WTI and Brent crude oil futures, respectively. And if the supply situation remains tenuous, the ETFs could continue to outperform futures.

Oil ETFs

it work.  Thanks so much

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(03-19-2026, 04:32 PM)yogibearbull Wrote: I opened a new thread this morning on copy-&-paste and the tiny default font that I have to change manually each time.

Clicked "Reply" button embedded in YBB post #10.
Scrolled down page and clicked "Post Reply" button.
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(03-19-2026, 03:57 PM)Old_Joe Wrote: OK, so here's the setup at this end:

• Using desktop Mac Mini
• Have constructed article posting format on Text Edit
• To use, copy formatting from Text Edit to new post on MFO-2
• On MFO-2 simply replace xxx from Text Edit with appropriate new info.

Here is the setup for articles from The Guardian-

Hed

Following are excerpts from a current report in The Guardian :

- Bold - 

Quote: Blockquote

This is a test.
Quote:Investors in oil ETFs have seen a windfall this year as the war between the U.S./Israel and Iran has severely disrupted shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, effectively bringing traffic out of the Gulf region to a standstill.
The United States Oil Fund (USO) and the United States Brent Oil Fund (BNO) are each up around 68% so far this year.
Those gains are ahead of the roughly 66% and 64% increases in front-month WTI and Brent crude oil futures, respectively. And if the supply situation remains tenuous, the ETFs could continue to outperform futures.
Oil ETFs
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(03-19-2026, 07:10 PM)Old_Joe Wrote:  
- Please see MFO-1 for info on text characteristics. -


Hi @Old_Joe,

MyCode, also known as BB Codes, can be used to add effects or formatting to posts.
A link to the corresponding help webpage is below.

https://cherylsnowball.com/discuss/misc.php?action=help&hid=7
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I'm aware, but evidently others aren't.
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