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An aside, which has been discussed here; are the millions of others who are not investors, but those perhaps ages 65-100 years who will travel in few other investment areas other than CD's at their local bank or credit union. These folks are really in the money grinder, as the paltry rates of return, which in most cases will also be taxed by federal, state and/or local governments will also be offset by inflation creep. A most sad state of affairs for too many good folks.fixed-income investors are going to likely earn their coupon with less and less prospect for capital appreciation
>>>>> A proper question, and one that we all ask ourselves; whether equity, bond or any other sector holdings. I suppose, among other word choices, too; is that I look for "flatlining" of funds we hold, as well as "flatlining" in areas that affect various types of bonds. A prime example at this time is our holding of FBNDX. The 30 day S.E.C. yield is now at 1.6%. This is not much of a yield to "write home about" and won't buy the groceries going forward, eh? 'Course the yield is so low because of the buyers who continue to move into bond sectors. But, we all ask the question of our holdings; "What are ya do'in for me today?" I watch our bond funds to look for a trend, not unlike with an equity holding or other. FBNDX has a 1 month return of +.28% , a 3 month return of +1.4% and a YTD of 6.2%. Our overall portfolio is about +11.5% for the year, or about 1% a month on average. Obviously, FBNDX is not pulling its weigh at this time and has reduced the average against higher returns from our other holdings. This does not imply that other bond funds similar to FBNDX have not done better, and perhaps we just don't have the best of the breed with this holding. The fund is on the watch list for a rotation; but we will likely wait to find what happens in the next few months from D.C.land.I think catch is well aware that fixed income performance will not go on like this (although timing the turn is not possible), but I think what some on the board are curious about is what does catch view as the general plan in terms of indicators to look at that to start moving out of fixed income, etc.?
>>>>>The M* breakdown of the portfolio "thinks" the mix is about 1.9% equity. There are times, it appears, when M* can't quite determine a full accurate reading. We are okay with this and are pleased that we are able to have a view of the mix from their angle. We do have some equity slant from FAGIX, which at times may run as high as 20% equity holdings and currently reads about 8%. FRIFX is a conservative real estate fund and generally holds about a 40% equity/60% bond mix. LSBDX may hold up to about 20% equities. The HY bond funds are generally cousins to equity as related to market moves. For 2012, an ongoing review has shown our HY funds are currently close to returns with the S&P 500 indexes. This, of course, has varied throughout the year, too. As the markets have tossed and turned for 2012, one week will find support from the above funds noted; while another week finds support from the bond funds more tilted towards the investment grade sectors. A slow and sideways portfolio mix attempting to generate some continued capital appreciation from bond pricing, while throwing off yield; generally paid and reinvested monthly." I know the composition is for "near retirement, capital preservation and to stay ahead of inflation creep," but surprised to see it virtually devoid of equity."
>>>>> We were not a house of bonds prior to June, 2008; with only about 10% in bonds at that time. We have held up to 30% in equity at various times beginning in 2009 and through 2012. As to the "reluctant bull"; our portfolio feels like an investment orphan at times, as so much news is oriented towards owning equity to move forward with one's portfolio growth. We do not disagree with this notion; and must be aware of which equity sectors may benefit going forward, whether broad equity markets remain "sideways" or not. Not unlike bond sectors, there are always equity sectors that may remain more favorable than others for any number of reasons. This is what all of we investors are attempting to discover, eh? I can not imagine that our portfolio will remain naked in the equity sector going forward, regardless of retirement. We will have to continue to obtain capital appreciation from one area or another, or both. However, we feel at this time; "that this time is different" and although historical investment charts are of benefit to study, this is not my parent's, nor my generation's (age 65) market place. Things have changed and sorting a forward investment path has become more difficult; in my/our opinion."Maybe it really is a reluctant bull, if not "A Bull Market In Fear."
>>>>>I don't think this has changed. Equity is still owning a part of a company; and a company's debt (bond issues) is money one is lending to a company, for hopefully; a well thought plan. Utimately, one could hold both areas for a given company with buying some of their equity, as well as some of their bonds, too. I suppose this becomes a "balanced" portfolio. I will not disagree, as has been noted here in discussion, and with linked articles; that too many folks likely do not understand the full implication of market forces that can throw their bond holdings into a negative direction. Our house is aware of this; but it will be the timing and/or vision of when a more permanent trend has begun that could cause losses in some bond holdings. What the retiring boomer generation (reportedly 10,000/day) is going to do with their monies will likely have a fairly large impact on some investment areas for the next 20 years."I used to think that owning an equity share was owning a piece of a company. Has that changed? Gives me pause to think nobody wants to own companies anymore, just their debt. Has owning debt become a proxy for owning the company?"
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