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@davidrmoran: I am not sure I understand what you mean by selective destructions and quoting out of context in a different thread is never helpful.
Here is a broader response to what I think you are asking which will explain my position better in all situations:
There is a saying in some venture
capital circles (because these tend to be male dominated and crude when drinks are involved, I have substituted for the actual euphemisms to apply to all investing)
A small bet in a big idea or a big bet in a small idea ... neither makes money.
In my experience, all investing involves three components: the strategy with which you bet, how much you are risking in the strategy and how you manage risk if that strategy isn't working out.
This applies to your whole portfolio or parts of it.
If you aren't sticking your neck out enough for an investing decision, then it doesn't matter if the strategy was good or bad or if you didn't have a plan to manage risk.
A lot of investors do this and think they are doing well meddling when just sitting on their hands with a diversified portfolio would have done equally well or better. When bet works, they feel happy and when it doesn't , they forget it because it doesn't hurt. So selective memory keeps them happy. Been there, done that.
Your caveat of $10k in a fund that is very conservative sounds like you are not sticking your neck out much and rationalizing the decision that way. So whether your thesis is correct or not or if anyone else is thinking the same isn't worth writing a post about because it makes very little practical difference one way or the other.
My answer was in the context of making a decision that has consequences (for example, the $10k is a significant part of your portfolio or someone else is planning on making a more significant move with the same thesis). Merriman's suggestion of putting all of your money in equities and for some all of it in just value or small for 30 years is definitely placing a big bet. That is the context in the other thread. This is why the responses are the same.
In such cases, the strategy and how you manage the risks are important. My thesis is that if you are a passive investor making a significant decision that matters, then creating a global and balanced allocation and staying with it is a good strategy and requires no additional risk management efforts. There are enough studies to show this works better than most meddling. So yes, buying the total market to the extent it is practical is a good thing for such investors.
But I do believe that you can be a smart and active investor and stretch your neck out away from the above that is optimal for passive investors. But you need a plan on how to act and to react in significant ways if your investment thesis on which you placed the bet isn't working any more or turns out to be wrong.
Out of all the posts I have seen on this forum so far, only
@Ted and
@Junkster seem to stick their neck out from the norm, the latter in asset classes used and the former in equity exposure for his age. I would bet that both of them are active in monitoring to make significant changes in their portfolio if the markets were to change as opposed to passive investors. That is perfectly fine.
Within that context, it makes sense to look at the validity of strategy as well. Your thesis that all bad news is perhaps baked in is the same as "a bottom has been reached or close to it". Labeling it contrarian doesn't make it better or worse or different. In my experience, trying to predict bottoms or tops is futile. I am more in
@Junkster's camp of trend following than predicting or timing as a better approach but it requires one to be an active investor.
So, I gave three of the best suggestions based on those components of investing. If you are a passive investor, stick to a balanced portfolio rather than make bets something will happen, or if you want to stick your neck out in this particular case reduce the duration of bonds and remain passive rather than acting on an assumption of the bottom having been reached, or if you are an active trader, follow the trend than trying to anticipate a reversal and make that change when the market changes. That may be next year or in many years. No way of knowing.
Same basis of advice in the Merriman thread or in the specific case of a poster who bought EUO hoping for a reversal when the trend was down.
If you think that is too broad or too narrow, fine. I am open to what other suggestions might exist.
If your question was really the equivalent of the guy who goes to Vegas and says "I want to be a contrarian and bet on all reds and here is a whole dollar to bet on it", then it isn't worth discussing whether that idea is a good or a bad one. :-)