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Definitely do not agree with all of your views but some interesting ideas nonetheless.Hi VintageFreak,
Here's my take on your funds:
.....the good.....
BTBFX - FMIJX - GAIFX - BRUFX - BRTNX.
.....the bad.....
GAVAX - WHGIX - WSBFX - LCORX - So, what would I do? VWINX - and sleep well.
BVAOX - use DISSX.
BULLX - use PARWX.
GTSOX - too expensive.....look again.
.....the ugly......
Just me.....just saying. And Duke says he ain't ugly.
God bless
the Pudd
Have started doing this, yes, but nothing actionable yet. My concern remains that by the time I know what any manager has bought, its been several months. Still can get some ideas to look around for some value.
Does anyone here practice looking at low turnover funds to look for ideas to buy individual stocks?
I'll weigh in here since I think most active funds are over priced.
Better than active
http://quote.morningstar.com/fund/chart.aspx?t=BRTNX&region=USA&culture=en-US&statePara={securities:[{n:"Bretton Fund",ids:"F00000J732|0P0000P5VU|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|FO|2010-9-30|||false|USA|16"},{n:"Mid-Cap Blend",ids:"$FOCA$MB$$|$FOCA$MB$$|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|CA||||true|USA|0"},{n:"S&P 500 TR USD",ids:"XIUSA04G92|0P00001MK8|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|XI||||true|USA|0"},{n:"Vanguard Extended Market Index ETF",ids:"FEUSA00037|0P00002DB2|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|FE|2001-12-27|||false|USA|16"}],chartType:"GrowthChart",range:"2010-9-30|2014-3-6",period:9,region:"USA",tc:"USD",isD:"0",isR:"0",rM:3,scale:"1",bMenu:"",sma:"0,0,0"}
I compare everybody against D&C, which is only 0.53 for DODGX and 0.65 for DODWX (global). Single share class. No load.
My back goes up at anything over 1%, unless it is long short, hedged, or perhaps EM.
I'm OK with young funds to be higher on low AUM. But, I really want to see that come down as AUM grows.
If I remember, BB capped ER at 1%, even when FAIRX launched.
Reading David, I think he's a bit more fundamental and flexible. He looks to see if the manager adds value, evidenced ultimately by superior returns over long run.
Implication here is that the hidden NTF fee is not necessarily covered by the 12b-1 fee....fund supermarkets such as Schwab and Fidelity add to the fee layers because they charge fund companies between 30 and 40 basis points to be included on their no-transaction fee platforms. Some funds pay part of this cost with a 12b-1 fee, and others pay it from their management fee.
The practice is widespread. It was actually the interview David did with Steven Dodson, where I started becoming aware of it. Mr. Dodson's reluctance to embrace such practices is one reason BRTNX does not have widespread availability at the "fund supermarkets."The Funds’ Advisor, out of its own resources and without additional cost to the Funds or their shareholders, may provide additional cash payments or other compensation to certain financial intermediaries who sell shares of the Funds.
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