"Core" Bond Fund Replacement When I mention "core bond fund", I am referring to the largest bond fund position in my portfolio.
My search domain includes the following M* bond categories:
interm. core-plus, global bond, corporate bond, short-term bond, nontraditional bond, and multisector bond.
Maximum drawdowns, losses during turbulent periods, and overall volatility are major considerations.
HOSIX has performed very well but it has a short lifetime (5/2/2022 inception)
and high expense ratio — 1.51% net.
CBLDX is an excellent fund but as of 6/30/2025, 35.23% of its portfolio was in
below investment-grade bonds while 26.75% was in bonds that are not rated.
Although CBLDX has exhibited low-risk performance thus far, I don't wish to assume
the fundamental risk of significant junk bond exposure in my largest bond fund position¹.
However, I am considering CBLDX as a satellite holding in a separate account.
¹ For reference, approximately 60% of my overall portfolio is comprised of equities.
"Core" Bond Fund Replacement Although I can't wholeheartedly recommend WAPSX (a Franklin Templeton Core+ bond fund sitting in my IRA) because its metrics can't compare to those discussed already, it does produce consistent returns. For the past decade, for every $50k, it returns about $200/month ($2400/yr), or about 4.8%, which I reinvest. It has had negative growth since Covid (2020) but it is beginning to climb from the valley over the past year. Perhaps it is a risk, but since it is at a low price point (around $9.30/sh), it may be an option to consider.
Lots of food for thought in this thread. Thx.
giroux m* update PRWCX last 52W is at 10.01% vs. VWELX at 13.03%. As per barchart.com
giroux m* update
giroux m* update :) My generic
“ … not leading the pack” isn’t substantiated. Not sure what I’d compare PRWCX to. I’m running slightly ahead of PRWCX’s 10.28% YTD, which highly unusual. I generally lag. And in
The Observer’s September issue
@David_Snowball reports:
”My Indolent Portfolio, at just 50% stocks, has returned a lovely 11.25% so far this year, which strikes me as entirely excellent for a low-drama, low ulcer strategy.”Re “
From a distance” - I track PRWCX daily. Recently it fell more in a day than any of the 12-1
5 other assorted funds I track. I guessed then that he had some rate sensitive bonds, because rates had spiked that day. Knowing the history and philosophy of PRWCX I doubt the fund has much, if anything, in gold and the p/c miners. That would lower its performance compared to the crowd. But I might be wrong.
Trump regime and coal Not necessarily. There are actually several production methods for making steel- for example, the electric-arc method.
There's also cement manufacturing to deal with. Cement manufacturing is already efficient (see section 2.1 in link below) and carbon capture reduces emissions but not the use of coal.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666790823000721
"Distribution of CO2eq emissions from industrial processes in the U.S. in 2018 (BF/BOF: blast furnace / basic oxygen furnace, EAF: electric arc furnace) compared to the total production of the material. Data markers refer to the carbon intensity measured by the total emissions divided by the total production, resulting in an estimate of MtCO2eq per Mt of material produced."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360128521000800
giroux m* update Just watching PRWCX from a distance, Giroux seems to be in defensive mode. Expecting better buying opportunities ahead. +10.20% over the past year ain’t nothing to sneeze at. Not leading the pack either. His 3-
5 year time horizon is probably a lot shorter than for many funds. I appreciate that
@msf is so proficient at catching / correcting errors. Tremendous asset to MFO. He’ll probably correct something I said here.
Trump regime and coal Dirty Coal is so yesterday...There's "Rare Earth Elements in 'dem 'darn 'bandoned Coal Mines and Ash heeps!"
The U. S. National Coal Council (NCC) also completed a report on REEs and CMs in October 2021, entitled “Carbon Forward – Advanced Markets for Value-Added Products from Coal.” The National Coal Council at that time was a Federal Advisory Committee established under the authority of the DOE. The NCC report addressed recovery of REEs and CMs from coal and concluded “Recovering REEs from coal waste resources would have numerous advantages. Mining and logistics costs would be negligible compared with traditional REE/CM mining methods. The carbon resources are “shovel ready” in that they are surface mine reserves and the material is already beneficiated for the most part, requiring less energy and expense to produce. These factors significantly reduce the cost of extraction and separation. Distribution of REE separation plants sited at or near the reserve sites would eliminate the need for extensive transportation. Finally, REE recovery from waste carbon material would aid in the mitigation of legacy environmental issues associated with waste coal disposal ponds.”
Enormous Cache of Rare Earth Elements Discovered in America
Coal ash, the powdery residue left after burning coal for fuel, has accumulated across the United States for decades. New research from the University of Texas at Austin reveals that this vast supply contains enough rare earth elements to significantly strengthen the nation’s reserves without the need for additional mining.
8-4-billion-enormous-cache-of-rare-earth-elements-discovered
DOE has made many advancements toward the recovery of REE and CM
from coal and coal byproducts—identifying significant REE resources in coal and coal
byproducts and in what quantities and combinations, demonstrating that they can be extracted
from coal, coal measures, coal ash, coal refuse, and acid mine drainage, and establishing first-
of-a-kind pilots that produce high purity REE from these feedstocks. Nonetheless, there is
much more work to be done before coal and coal byproducts can become part of the
foundational supply for domestic critical mineral supply chains. Additional research activities
have been initiated to address these research needs and technical challenges.
Energy Dept Report during Biden Administration:
Coal By-Products.pdfU of Utah:
“The model is if you’re already moving rock, could you move a little more rock for resources towards energy transition?” Birgenheier said. “In those areas, we’re finding that the rare earth elements are concentrated in fine-grain shale units, the muddy shales that are above and below the coal seams.”
can-coal-mines-be-tapped-for-rare-earth-elementsAnother Biden Era Initiative:
While nobody knows exactly how much rare earth material there is hiding in coal ash piles, waste ponds, and acid mine drainage sites around the country, Alvin says that in the Appalachian region alone, an estimated 6,000 metric tons of rare earths flow through acid mine drainage sites each year. The United States’ annual rare earth demand stands at around 12,000 to 13,000 metric tons.
https://grist.org/technology/the-plan-to-turn-coal-country-into-a-rare-earth-powerhouse/
Mutual Fund ETF Share Classes A little more detail: Prior to SEC
Rule 6c-11 in 2019, every ETF had to apply to the SEC for "exemptive relief" because ETFs don't follow every single rule governing OEFs. Even now, Rule 6c-11 still requires funds that want to offer an ETF share class (as opposed to a pure ETF fund) to seek exemptive relief.
Vanguard originally sought that relief first for nine specific funds, then in separate applications, relief for its domestic index funds generally, its global index funds generally, and its index bond funds generally. These applications were granted. The SEC did not grant relief in 201
5 when Vanguard applied for relief for its actively managed funds. AFAIK it never gave an explanation. So yogi's not the only one who doesn't know what the reasons were :-). Here's that
2015 application for relief.
Many companies, including DFA, filed exemption applications
in 2023. Vanguard filed its application just
three months ago. So it's no surprise and likely not meaningful that the SEC acted first on some of those early applications.
Finally, here's
A Deep Dive Into the ETF Share Class Exemptive Relief Applications. The
pdf it links to
break[s] down the history of the sought-after relief, the potential advantages to such a structure for mutual fund sponsors and shareholders, and share their insights into the SEC’s reluctance to grant such relief, while ultimately arguing that the approval of these applications is the proper step for the SEC to take.
Mutual Fund ETF Share Classes According to ETF.com, Vanguard did apply for an ETF class for an active fund around 201
5, but it was rejected by SEC. Don't know what the reasons were.
"When Vanguard let that patent expire in May 2023, the filings to mimic the unique structure started piling up at the SEC, which has been mum on the topic since
denying Vanguard’s request to extend the ETF share classes to actively managed mutual funds nine years ago."
https://www.etf.com/sections/news/whats-holdup-etf-share-classesFWIW, Vanguard now also has filings for ETF classes of its active funds. SEC chose DFA filing to be the model for others to follow to this time, not Vanguard (actually, VG didn't share/license its previous patent (now expired) with ANYONE).
Trump regime and coal
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