What happened to CCOR? ”It's too bad CCOR is stinking up the place this year as I've been interested in this fund for a while. Admittedly, some of my interest faded when short-term Treasuries started yielding over 4% and now 5%. High quality bonds are far more attractive today than they were at the start of 2022 … “
Well, an early guess of mine (same thread) was that folks have shifted into cash, CDs and the like. If so, the swoon could partially reflect assets moving out of the types of things CCOR owns, or actually fleeing the fund. Without looking, I’d have to guess the latter is true, as today’s fund investors aren’t likely to sit on a stinker like this too long. What I wonder is - if being
and an ETF, CCOR might be more susceptible to funds fleeing (and associated damage) than say a mutual fund with tighter trading restrictions? If so, there might be a valuable lesson here for all of us who have gravitated to ETFs.
None of this is intended to overlook the keen insights
@DavidSnowball and others have submitted. All of the replies in the thread make good sense to me. And much appreciated.
Financial Markets History & Evolution of Financial Advice A danger in many myths is that they contain a kernel of truth. Individual participation in the stock market really took off in the 1990s. "Everyone" invested in the stock market and so they shifted focus from the size of their paychecks to how their little nest eggs were growing. Workers now cheered on CEOs getting larger and larger percentages of profits (from their generous stock compensation packages).
That little kernel of truth behind the myth of democratization changes perceptions. It doesn't require people to have sizeable amounts invested to shift their focus, any amount will do. The ratio of CEO to worker wages has risen from 20x in the 1960s to over 3
50x in 2000, and is now sitting around 280x.
https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-compensation-2018/
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What happened to CCOR? It's too bad CCOR is stinking up the place this year as I've been interested in this fund for a while. Admittedly, some of my interest faded when short-term Treasuries started yielding over 4% and now 5%. High quality bonds are far more attractive today than they were at the start of 2022, when nothing looked good. That is what piqued my interest in CCOR. Now, meh, and mismanagement of options as others have pointed out.
Financial Markets History & Evolution of Financial Advice Interesting history, worth reading for some of it, but it also perpetuates some false mythology about the democratization of the stock market and “everybody getting rich” off it. The vast majority of Americans who own stocks or stock mutual funds, own them in very small quantities so that the top 1% still owns most of the market just like they always have. Moreover, one of the reasons for the ostensible democratization is that workers were losing their pension plans and being put by their employers into 401ks with stock mutual funds. So now they’re stock owners. The end result was a massive increase in wealth inequality. So, to say everyone was getting rich in the 1990s simply isn’t true.
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Although wealth inequality was not the focus of the article,
you are correct that the very wealthy own a disproportionate share of stocks.
According to the Federal Reserve, the wealthiest 1% of the population
owned more than
50% of corporate equities and mutual fund shares in Q1 2023.
LinkUSA Facts provides more detailed 2019 data regarding stock ownership.
Link
Doug Ramsey, Leuthold CIO, on investing in the markets ahead Unfortunately, LSLTX doesn't have a longer history. Comparing VS the SP500 after a huge 5 years run and then losing for the next 10 years isn't fair either.
2009-10 IMO is fairer.
Doug Ramsey, Leuthold CIO, on investing in the markets ahead I have a lovely collection of small cap funds . . . that I bought at the end of 2021 when they were less undervalued than they are now.. :)
Average stock likely to perform much better over the next 3-5 years than the average index because the average index is so beholden to a few vastly overextended stars.
I've got average too.
Making a list.
Find the cost of opportunity.
Leuthold sings: "Don't believe me? Just watch."
Working by hindsight.
Financial Markets History & Evolution of Financial Advice Notice the conflating of the stock investing with all security (including fixed income) investing:"mutual fund assets jumped ... The charge was led by money market funds"
That leads naturally to the matter of pensions. Agreed that after 1981 pensions shifted from defined benefit (traditional) plans to defined contribution (401(k)) plans. Still, pensions were prominent prior to 1981. Companies must have been investing that pension money somewhere. It was most likely in fixed income, which is why conflating investing in stocks and investing in all securities muddies the narrative.
Of course where companies invested pension money prior to 1974 (ERISA) was ... nowhere. Pensions were not required to be adequately funded. See
Studebaker.
This "democratization" of stock trading, however little or much, took time. In 1992, trading a few shares of stock could still cost much more than the purported "bad old days" rate of 1%-3%:
whenever fewer than 100 shares are being traded it may be important to ask how minimums -- the rock bottom charge for a trade, however small -- will affect the fee. In such trades, the discount houses may not always be less costly.
A discount broker like Fidelity Investments would charge its current $54 minimum to sell 25 shares of a $30 stock. At Quick & Reilly the minimum would be $37.50 and at Schwab it would be $42.75. At Shearson Lehman Brothers, a full-service house, the sale would result in a $50 minimum commission. This compares with Shearson's 1987 schedule of charges, when no minimums applied. Back then the trade would have cost $20 plus a $12 odd-lot premium.
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/05/news/strategies-buying-stock-ways-to-save-on-brokers-commissions.html