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  • The BeeHive Fund
    @VintageFreak: ' Any takers?" No ! No ! No ! 3-years 85 percentile, 5-years 71 percentile
    Regards,
    Ted
    M* Snapshot Of BEEHX: http://quotes.morningstar.com/fund/beehx/f?t=beehx
  • The BeeHive Fund
    Thankzzz. I'll buzz by and comb through its prospectus. I believe the ticker is BEEHX. I hope they expand offerings to BEERX and BUZZX.
    At first buzz:
    They might "play with the numbers". If you take a look at the Expense Ratio, the fund provides a .05% fee waiver that convienently drops the ER to .99% (from 1.04%). Some businesses pride themselves on just this strategy... (99 Cent Stores, Gas pumps, and Used Car lots).
    A concentrated portfolio...top 10 holdings make up 45% and top 25 holdings make up close to 95% of fund.
    Large Blend fund with little or no exposure to: Basic Materials, Real Estate, Utilities or Consumer Defense.
  • Dodge and Cox proxy vote
    All set for tomorrow. I understand that after the formal shareholder meeting there will be a one hour tour of the Dodge & Cox facility. It's an impressive building actually. Views from up-top are take-your-breath away beautiful. I had opportunity recently to watch the documentary Money for Nothing there.
  • Which bond fund in FIDO?
    @STB65: Hunt with the big dogs, FAGIX
  • Rarer Than Rare
    @cman, thank you!!! I was feeling somewhat depressed after reading Sam Lee's article (and its funny but I feel that way a lot after I read his articles) and you've cheered me up. I felt even better when I did a little research and found out Lee's newsletter, with an admittedly short history, has performed miserably compared to the Wilshire 5000 on a risk adjusted basis and even worse when unadjusted. Maybe his writing just helps to make him feel better about his own lack of both skill and luck.
  • Art Cashin: Why Stocks May Reach New Highs
    I like Art Cashin, but he is becoming the master of the obvious. I wish he would take a little more career risk and say something useful based on his years of experience.
    He says that IF the S&P breaks 1885 there is a good chance it could close above 1890. But 1890 is only 5 points above 1885 - only about 0.25% which is basically noise. Then he says if 1890 is broken, MAYBE the bulls will take a shot at 1900. Again 1900 is only 0.5% above 1890 and can occur intra-day via trading noise.
    "They're very close to the next resistance level, which is 1882 to 1885. If they break through that there's a very good chance they will try to get above the record closing high, which was 1890."
    If that happens, "the bulls will be reinvigorated and maybe we'll take a shot at 1900."
  • Market Timing With Decision Moose ... New Signal
    Since you said please, here's your video. Enjoy!
    wealthtrack.com/recent-programs-ROBERT KESSLER – IN DEFENSE OF BONDS
    EDV (Zero Treasuries) vs. IBB (Biotech) over the last 5 years:
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  • Rarer Than Rare
    @dryflower, the studies along these lines do not model the reality correctly and so come up with incorrect conclusions when they generalize it.
    Imagine, if you were to conduct a similar study of multiple choice test scores of all high school students over a number of tests with no selection criterion, you may conclude that the test scores across all students were determined more by luck than skill because random answering shows similar distribution. Or if there was skill that you could not reliably select students that had skill or that they showed no persistence or if it did it was because those students studied more broadly than others (took more risk). :-)
    Studies that lie behind this indexing cult usually follow the same cyclic argument as follows, including the study linked in the other thread.
    1. In the aggregate over all funds, the active funds do not perform over index funds.
    But wait, you say, I do not select funds by throwing darts and there are a lot of bad funds. So what if I select the good funds?
    2. Even if you were somehow able to select good funds they do not show persistence over time. So, it is futile.
    But wait, you say, you require the fund to beat the index every year or in two consecutive periods and consider it a fail even if the fund underperforms in one period by a mere 0.5% while it gained by 2% in the previous period. So, it isn't necessary to be persistent in YOUR definition for the fund to do well over time.
    3. But active funds in general do not beat indices over time. See 1 above.
    See the cyclic argument?
    I am waiting for somebody to do a simple study. Find the cumulative performance over a reasonable period of time of active funds selected with multiple criterion available at the beginning of the period and see if any of the criterion select for over performing funds with statistical significance. This is what models reality better. If none of the selection criterion comes out with a reliable way to select a fund, then there is a good case to make against choosing active funds
    Because reality is complex, choosing a mathematical or statistical model to draw conclusions from is not trivial and requires some simplifying assumptions. That can lead to incorrect conclusions in the general case.
    As a very simple example of incorrect modeling leading to incorrect conclusions, consider @mjg's charming anecdote in another thread of using probabilities to make shooting decisions in basketball (not to pick on @mjg here).
    On the surface, it looks perfectly reasonable. The math is correct. So, the conclusion of going for 3 pointers should be valid, right? It might be, if the opposing coach is a total idiot as might happen in a junior team of 12 year olds. However, it does not apply in general because the reality is different for that simple modeling to apply.
    When you have two opposing teams making strategic decisions in a zero sum game, it needs to be modeled with game theory rather than simple probability to reflect what happens in reality better. Game theory applied to this suggests that the fixed point equilibrium reduces the efficacy of the 3 pointers to a level where it provides no advantage over a 2 point attempt.
    The plain English translation is that, if the 3 point tries start to win with higher probability in successive games, the opposing team will start to guard against 3 pointers more, which leaves them vulnerable to 2 point attacks and so a higher probability doing that, etc., until an equilibrium is reached.
    So real world coach decisions are much more complex relying on luck and skill to outplay the other teams based on the players, how they are playing at that moment, probability of refs in that game to be lenient towards fouls in that game, the strengths or weaknesses of the opposing coach, etc. Good coaches do this by intuition and aren't helped by a probability calculator to consult. It is not just luck either.
    Good fund managers and good coaches have a lot of things in common. :-)
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    MFO Members: For what its worth department, the linkster's asset allocation at age 77.
    Regards,
    Ted
    Money Market: .18%
    Mutual Funds: 10.3% (All Equity Funds)
    Individual Bonds & Preferred Stocks: 13.02%
    Stocks; 76.5 %
    Thanks for sharing, Ted. How many stocks do you own? Assume just a handful considering your philosophy of concentrating on best ideas. You certainly seem
    to have a good feel for the market and the ability to keep a regular eye on your
    investments.
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    @Ted. Ha! Pretty much "All In" looks like. You're a better man than I.
    It's been 356 trading days since market dropped below 200 day average...and then only for 3 days.
    It's been 683 days since we've spent any extended time (2-3 months) below 200 day average...back in fall of 2011.
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    MFO Members: For what its worth department, the linkster's asset allocation at age 77.
    Regards,
    Ted
    Money Market: .18%
    Mutual Funds: 10.3% (All Equity Funds)
    Individual Bonds & Preferred Stocks: 13.02%
    Stocks; 76.5 %
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    I have been advised to go with 20% equity, 50% bonds, 30% short term. Age are 80+78.
    Assets are suitable in retirement to cover all estimated expenses to age 95.
  • PIMCO Fundamental IndexPLUS AR Fund ?
    I own a little in my Roth IRA. It's basically a bond fund plus a derivative to give you value-tilted stock market exposure, if I understand it right. If you think Bill Gross's bond fund can earn enough return to overcome the management fee, and if you believe in a value tilt, it makes sense as a slightly riskier alternative to an index fund. But it is extraordinarily un-tax efficient, so hold it only in a tax-advantaged account, and the super excess returns of the last 5 years won't be repeated since the glory days for bonds are almost certainly over.
  • Which bond fund in FIDO?
    Having chosen to be bonded at the hip to FIDO in my 403b, and facing 0.01% money market returns in the third year of a presidential cycle, with a US stock market that seems fairly to over-valued, and Ukraine, Iran, and China posing concerns, I wondered what others might choose from the following options: FNMIX (are emerging market bonds coming back?) which might offer more return; FFRHX (lower return with some experts claiming these funds aren't as safe as they seem - but FIDO has good bond analysts); FAGIX (high yield, an area which has usually done better than predicted).
    These funds have redemption fees of 1% for 60 to 90 days, which shouldn't matter, since funds would only be moved to equities if there were a precipitous decline (and I'd be late to the party anyway). All lost varying amounts in 2008-9, and less in 2011; and I am retiring probably in 3 years, so income would be nice, but I can tolerate some volatility, if I am made whole in 5 to 7 years.
    If you feel I have abused the site, keep the castigations brief. I can tolerate more risk than short-term bond funds offer. I'm about 65% in equities across my various retirement accounts, if that colors your answer. My wife and I can probably survive for a year or two on SS income, but she'd be complaining (I actually like beans and rice - with enough spices).
  • Market Timing With Decision Moose ... New Signal
    Thanks Old Skeet,
    The main criticism I've fallen victim to for referencing this site is the fact that it's "play money". "Show me the money...where are the receipts".
    O.K, fair enough.
    Call me clueless, but to me this site is no different than any other data point to consider and personally I like the small investor feel the site has. I naturally take it with a grain of skeptism, but I hope everyone does this throughout Internet Investing Land.
    Judging by the bold text in the Moosistory section of the site these "calls" are profitable about 50% of the time. To me, Long Term Treasuries (EDV or BTTRX) in a portfolio serve three purposes:
    - They provide a coupon return better than cash so long a interest rates remain unchanged.
    - They have the potential to be "bid up" as a result of a market correction when other market participants seek a "flight to safety" investment.
    - They provide a coupon plus capital appreciation when interest rates fall. Remember Japan...rates could fall further here in the US if deflationary pressures reemerge.
    EDV seem like a counter intuitive place to park money right now from a rising interest rate standoint, but as I mentioned above that is not the only scenario to consider. I don't subscribe to The Moose so I can't help paraphase the Moose's decisionmaking process for this switch.
    Recently I posted a 5 year chart of BTTRX (Zero Coupon Long Duration Treasuries) and VTSMX (Total Stock Market Index). It appeared to me that a significant divergance exists between these two positions right now. It could go on for awhile, but for no other reason than to rebalance a portfoio I would be selling some of my equity winners (your outperforming equities funds) and buying some fix income (your underperforming fixed income funds).
    Nothing wrong with employing basic periodic rebalancing.
    Here the chart I was referring to that I created:
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  • Jonathan Clements: If You're Not Saving, You're Losing Out
    Hi Guys,
    I am pleased that Jonathan Clements has come home to the WSJ. I missed his commonsense columns that were much more than just investment advice. Welcome back Jonathan.
    His reintroductory article to his WSJ audience clearly shows that he will continue exploring life style issues in addition to investment topics. Clements has always believed that financial success is about more than money. In fact that’s the title of Chapter 21 in his most recent book.
    The title of that book is “The Little Book of Main Street Money”. I’ve owned a copy for several years. Typical of all Clements writings, it is an informative, breezy and easy read.
    I’ve hesitated to recommend it to the MFO membership because it devotes only a minor portion to investment advice. It is not sophisticated in that it covers many broad financial matters in a simplified format. It is a great introductory-like tutorial that might well satisfy the needs of very financially illiterate folks. In closing each brief chapter, Clements provides a short “street Smarts” tips section.
    Clements is the only notable financial writer that I have personally met. At least 15 years ago he lived in Metuchen, New Jersey; so did my sister. On a visit, our paths accidentally crossed while walking around a lake in a State park. I believe he initiated a conversation.
    We talked a little about investing. The discussion turned to decision making, and the errors that even professionals are guilty of. That allowed me to introduce my favorite sports example of faulty decisions because of not understanding the odds. I’ve told this story on earlier MFO posts, but I’ll repeat it now.
    A basketball team is two points behind with seconds remaining when the coach calls a timeout. The question: Should the team try for a 2 or 3 point basket? Given typical shooting percentages, the answer is to go for the 3-pointer. Many coaches do the opposite. Here’s why.
    Most teams successfully execute a 2-point shot with 50% likelihood. Given the closeness of the game, the probability of winning in overtime is also 50%. To register a win, both events must happen. Therefore the odds of winning the game are 25% (0.5 times 0.5).
    Most teams have shooters who convert 3-pointers at about the 33% level. Therefore, a well-informed coach should always try for an immediate victory given those odds.
    Clements really liked that story. Later, it appeared in his columns. Although I can never be 100% sure, I like to assume I influenced his writing in that singular instance.
    Best Regards.