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  • Help requested: SC/MC value funds
    VXF is your best choice for both.
    Suitability
    Vanguard Extended Market Index ETF is a suitable core holding for investors who want to complement a U.S. large-cap equities allocation with exposure to mid-cap, small-cap, and micro-cap stocks. This exchange-traded fund tracks the S&P Completion Index, which holds nearly the entire U.S. market, except for those stocks already in the S&P 500 Index. Its constituent companies are widely diversified across sectors and the value-growth spectrum. For those looking to control their market-cap exposure, this fund works well with an S&P 500 Index fund such as Vanguard S&P 500 ETF to cover the range of U.S. stock market capitalizations with minimal holdings overlap.
  • Dividend-Yielding Stock Are Paying Off Now
    @Kaspa - I'm trying to think of any reason(s) for investing in HDV. However, it concerns me when this portfolio pays out a dividend of only 3.06% while 17 of their top 25 holdings yield more than, or equal to in one instance, that on their own. 7 of the 25 are a full percentage point or more above the combined stated yield with 3 of those contained within their top ten holdings.
    Granted, there's an advantage to monitoring only one holding and you only have one set of transaction costs versus 25 so that helps. You also get some diversification across sectors but where is the rest of the yield going? I also think that the ER could be cut at least by half and they'd still do alright.
  • 14 Ways To Invest For Income Without Stocks
    No arguments. "Our favorite emerging-markets debt fund is Fidelity New Markets Income (FNMIX)--- a member of the Kiplinger 25. Longtime manager John Carlson focuses on dollar-denominated debt, a more stable way to invest in these securities because foreign currencies tend to be volatile. Over the past decade, New Markets Income returned 9.2% annualized, beating its typical peer by an average of 1.2 percentage points a year."
    Yet, PREMX beats FNMIX by a nose over 10 years, 9.2% (FNMIX) vs. 9.88% for PREMX.
  • WealthTrack: Q&A With Steve Romick, Manager, FPA Crescent Fund

    In allocating among funds, look not only at returns over 5-10 year periods, but equally importantly, look at the specific holdings within a fund.
    Regards, FWIW
  • Sideways Might Not Be So Bad For Markets
    Sideways may be better than going down but markets usually don't go sideways for too long.
    Seems to me, the sentiments for 2014 are very similar to 2010 after the big 2009 pop. Also a mid-election year.
    People were expecting a correction and there was a mid-year swoon. Everybody rushed in to capitalize on the correction and the year ended up reasonably high. Punished those that stayed out of the market, afraid of the correction. The euphoria continued into 2011 when we got the bigger correction that people weren't expecting. The markets were flat that year in annual returns.
    The same story might repeat in 2014/15 if there aren't significant events.
    Sideways was a very good movie. Not as multi-dimensional as The Big Chill, but not as mind numbingly self-absorbed as My Dinner with Andre or any Woody Allen movie. Not for people who like more bullets than words in a movie.
    Reference to that movie in the article just because of the title seems as relevant (or not!) to the article as Ted's video linking here. :-)
  • signs of strengths?
    It depends on whether you believe the marble will (be manipulated to) come to rest on black or red (oh, and just as a reminder, a belief is a religious feeling). :)
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-26/first-germany-now-austria-demands-audit-its-offshore-held-gold
  • WealthTrack: Q&A With Steve Romick, Manager, FPA Crescent Fund
    >> I would never pay a fund manager 1.14% ER to hold 46 cents of every dollar I invested in cash.
    I read an interview ~>15y ago with a money manager who said exactly the same thing wrt her clients. It was at that point I put a lot of money into FPACX, since I wanted him to do just that, meaning pay him for his judgment, period.
    It should be cheaper. Like Gabelli and YAFFX. Some of these guys tend to greed, apart from their judgment and process.
  • Chou Income CHOIX
    @Bobpa: Though you might enjoy this 2012 article from WSJ on the fund's manager.
    Regards,
    Ted
    Copy & Paste 11/16/12: Karen Johnson WSJ:
    Francis Chou was a 25-year-old telephone repairman in Canada when he pooled 51,000 Canadian dollars from himself and six co-workers to start an investment club.
    Thirty-one years later, Mr. Chou manages more than US$650 million for investors at his firm, Chou Associates Management Inc., and runs the best-performing bond fund in North America.
    "It wasn't a big sum," Mr. Chou says of his stock-investment club. "But it did quite well."
    Indeed. The Bell Canada co-workers—and some of their parents and friends who also invested early on with Mr. Chou—now are each worth more than $2 million.
    RISK DIVERSE: A value investor at heart, Francis Chou runs North America's best
    est-performing bond fund at his eponymous firm in Canada. Pawel Dwulit for The Wall Street Journal
    Mr. Chou's trajectory to the top of the bond-fund world shows how investors are tweaking tried-and-true strategies to boost returns and overcome chronically low interest rates. When he was starting out, Mr. Chou largely stuck to stocks and the classic value-investing methods made famous by Benjamin Graham and Warren Buffett.
    "The key idea was to find bargains, and if you could find bargains, you could do quite well," Mr. Chou says in an interview at his unadorned suburban office, far from the bustle of Toronto's Bay Street financial hub.
    Bargain-hunting is a skill that Mr. Chou, now 56, honed as a boy. Born in India to Chinese parents, he wandered among food stalls in the small northern Indian city of Allahabad, clutching a shopping list from his mother.
    Because there were no refrigerators, milk had to be bought almost every day. While his mother worked as a Chinese-language teacher, the young Mr. Chou would check for freshness, turning the glass bottles to see the milk's color and thickness. He tried to discern which were priced too high, those likely to spoil soon and others that were watered down.
    In 1973, Mr. Chou's older brother immigrated to Canada. Mr. Chou joined him three years later, with $200 to his name. Eventually he landed a job as a repairman for Bell Canada. But when Mr. Chou stumbled on an article about value investing, he felt he had found his calling.
    A year after starting his club in 1981, Mr. Chou went looking for value-oriented firms. He introduced himself to Bob Tattersall, then at Bolton Tremblay Funds Inc., a Montreal investment-counseling firm that later grew into Canadian fund manager Montrusco Bolton.
    "I have two weeks' holiday," Mr. Chou said at the time. "Can I work for you for free?"
    Mr. Tattersall said yes. He was impressed by Mr. Chou's insights and asked him to analyze auto-parts maker Kelsey-Hayes Canada Ltd.
    "He did a good job on the report, and he was pretty excited at the end when we called the CFO, put him on the speaker phone and did a telephone interview," Mr. Tattersall recalls.
    For Mr. Chou, the two-week stint was a chance to scout Bay Street investment advisers, especially those who shared his value-oriented philosophy.
    In 1984, he left Bell Canada for good, joining investment firm Gardiner Watson Ltd. as an analyst, working beside value investor Prem Watsa. It was Mr. Watsa who pressed for his hire. "My boss asked me give him 10 minutes. We spoke for a half-hour. I have never been more impressed with anyone than I was in that half-hour."
    At Mr. Chou's urging, Mr. Watsa bought control of teetering Markel MKL +0.48% Financial of Canada, the Canadian unit of insurer Markel Corp. It eventually became Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd. FFH.T -0.11% , of which Mr. Watsa now is chairman and chief executive.
    Mr. Chou worked at Fairfax for about a decade, managing the company's surplus cash while running the grown-up version of the investment club launched at Bell Canada.
    While never abandoning his roots in value investing, Mr. Chou has branched into riskier bets such as corporate "junk" bonds, which have been luring many investors with returns that are much higher than Treasurys, at least for now.
    His investors have been the beneficiaries. The Chou Income Fund, launched in 2010 with $500,000, has been tops among North American bond funds so far this year, with a return of 28%, according to financial-data tracker Lipper. In the same period, the Barclays U.S. Corporate High Yield Total Return index has gained 12%.
    Most of the assets in Mr. Chou's fund, which now has $6.3 million under management, are corporate junk bonds, including some issued by MannKind Corp. MNKD +0.13% and Dex One Corp. He typically holds investments for a few years, singling out beaten-up assets that he expects to rebound in value. Junk-bond prices were especially tempting when he launched the fund, he says, but they have become more dangerous to play now as prices have climbed.
    In 2004, Mr. Chou was named fund manager of the decade in Canada by fund tracker Morningstar Inc., MORN +1.28% and his Chou Associates Fund swelled in popularity, with assets under management topping $1 billion.
    Mr. Chou is unrepentant about taking more risks, but the financial crisis was a painful reminder that even successful investment strategies can be derailed quickly. Chou Associates Fund suffered losses of 10% in 2007 and 29% in 2008. Some investors took their money and ran.
    The fund's performance rebounded with strong back-to-back gains. Over the past 15 years, it has risen an average of 8.3% a year, more than double the 3.4% average gain by the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index.
    Mr. Chou has never formally marketed his funds to investors. Letters he writes to them have a folksy, humble tone that echoes Mr. Buffett, the billionaire chairman and chief executive of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. BRKB -0.14%
    In an August note, Mr. Chou called a bad bet on a Chinese cellphone maker "an unforced error like they say in tennis." His investment was "an unnecessary penalty that would send us to the penalty box if it were hockey."
    "The market can whack you," Mr. Chou says, "and remind you that you don't know everything."
    M* Snapshot OF CHOIX: http://quotes.morningstar.com/fund/f?t=CHOIX&region=usa&culture=en-US
    Lipper Snapshot Of CHOIX; http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/choix
    U>S. News & World Report Of CHOIX: http://money.usnews.com/funds/mutual-funds/world-bond/chou-income-fund/choix
    Fund Website: http://www.chouamerica.com/
  • How is ur TIPs fund do'in???
    MFO Members: Fixed-Income 5-Year Returns (Source M*)
    Regards,
    Ted
    1. Preferred Stock: 16.82%
    2. High-Yield: 13.25%
    3. Multi-Sector: 10.06%
    4. Corporate Bonds: 9.88%
    5. Emerging Market: 9.60%
    6. LongTerm Bonds: 8.35%
    7. Long Gov. : 8.06%
    8. Nontraditional: 6.29%
    9. Int. Bonds: 6.26%
    10. World Bonds: 6.07%
    11. TIPS: 5.01%
  • How is ur TIPs fund do'in???
    Howdy @Ted,
    Are you able to provide data to support that active managed TIPs funds have been a "bad investment"; say, over the past 15 year period, relative to other major asset classes?
    Lastly, I have not expressed that TIPs are a buy and hold propostion. They have their cycles, not unlike other asset classes.
    Take care,
    Catch
  • How is ur TIPs fund do'in???
    Howdy @KirkL,
    You noted: "What are the advantages of buying a fund other than losing some return to annual expenses? It is not like we need to diversify risk since they are all guaranteed by the government."
    >>>More or less, the average E.R. of an active managed TIPs fund is .5%; which is about the same, as the E.R. for a mutual fund company, money market fund. So, yes; one does give up some performance with E.R. costs, versus buying TIPs directly from the Treasury.
    As to diversity; this is an investment sector where one may prefer to allow a manager(s) to use their skills in assessing the TIPs market. A management decision for this sector would be the selection (buys and sells) of the most favorable durations for the best possible performance at any given time. For me, this is the advantage. TIPs variances may be discovered, in part, viewing the returns of the following: LTPZ STPZ TIP or one's other choices.
    You noted: "One reason to NOT buy a fund is to not get stuck with new purchases of individual TIPS with negative real rates. I only buy when the real rate is positive, an option you don't have with a mutual fund that might have to pay up to buy lower return TIPS for new money coming in which lowers the quality/return of the overall portfolio."
    >>>I prefer the choice of being able to buy or sell a TIPs fund on any given day of my choosing. The managers may manage the fund; I will manage when to be in or out of a fund. If I considered buying TIPs directly; I wouldn't feel comfortable with the duration selection. Which duration? Or would one mix the durations? The $10,000 individual annual purchase limit is also a no-go for me.
    Side note: Viewing active managed TIPs funds returns on a daily basis, as related to the daily long and short term duration TIPs returns usually gives one a good indication of the duration holdings of an active managed fund, at the time.
    Perhaps of interest: http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?fileId=56370
    The link is a Nuveen TIPs document from June, 2013. Exhibit 1, of the document, is an interesting notation.
    Best wishes to you, with your individual TIPs holdings.
    Regards,
    Catch