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  • Paul Merriman: The One Asset Class Every Investor Needs
    FWIW, here the newest GMO 7 year forecast has U.S. Quality @ 2.3%, U.S. large cap @ -1.5%, and U.S. Small Cap @ -4.5% annual after inflation.
    I'm also dubious of M*'s Vanguard figures because they only update by the quarter. IJS, which is updated daily lists a P/E of 18.75 vs. ITOT which has a P/E of 17.33.
    Take with whatever grains of salt you like.
    @mrdarcy or anyone else who knows: Can we get a clear, unambiguous definition of what GMO means by "U.S. Quality"? What mutual funds and exchange traded funds are there that focus on what GMO calls "U.S. Quality"? Note from above that U.S. Quality is not the same as U.S. large cap.
    Also, I think GMO may be using the Shiller CAPE 10 price to earnings ratio to determine these expected 7-year returns. There are exchange traded funds and one mutual fund that specifically choose low Shiller CAPE 10 ratios. For example, Barclays ETN+ Shiller CAPE ETN CAPE ; also the exchange traded fund GVAL specifically chooses only countries that have low Shiller P/E ratios, and currently the portfolio has a P/E of 11.5 per Morningstar. Also DoubleLine Shiller Enhanced CAPE N DSENX
  • From Alpha to Beta: A Long/Short Story
    There is an article in Pension Partners that examined trends and performance in Long/Short strategies over the past several decades and concludes that L/S strategies are a thing of the past. I've wondered that myself after viewing MFLDX's performance lately. I've cut and pasted the author's conclusions. If you are interested in reading the entire article, follow the link below.
    http://pensionpartners.com/blog/?p=439
    Author's conclusions:
    1) The alpha-generating long/short equity strategy of the 1990’s and early 2000’s appears to be a thing of the past.
    2) This is likely a function of increased competition in the space and an increase in correlation and lack of differentiation among individual equity securities.
    3) Over time, the long/short strategy has essentially morphed into a lower beta, long-only product that has actually delivered negative alpha in recent years and shown an inability to protect capital during market declines.
    4) While widely considered an “alternative” strategy because of the short side, investors should be questioning this label as long/short funds are behaving more and more like traditional equity investments. With a rolling correlation of over .90, it is hard to argue that they are providing any “alternative” other than a lower beta version of the S&P 500.
    5) The increase in correlation to the S&P 500 over the years is likely due to herding and career risk as long/short managers appear unwilling to incur the risk of not participating in an up market. The lack of volatility and historic advance over the past two years has only accentuated this issue, with the now widespread belief that the only way to perform is with higher exposure to the market.
    6) While many investors appear to be happy paying 2 and 20 for lower beta exposure, this would appear to be irrational behavior considering the relative ease at which one could replicate such an exposure at a reduced cost.
    7) One such replication, consisting of a 50/50 portfolio of Utilities and Staples, has widely outperformed the long/short strategy in recent years with equivalent risk and a lower correlation to the market. While not nearly as exciting as a long/short fund with a story for each individual stock in their portfolio, this would appear to be a better option for many investors if what they seek is simply lower beta.
    This analysis represents average performance and some might argue that there are still many long/short funds that have generated positive alpha over the years. I would agree that this is certainly true but would question the ability of most investors to pick such funds. Also, given the poor performance of long/short equity fund of funds in recent years, it does not appear that even professional investors have been successful in separating the wheat from the chaff.
    After a 200+% gain for the S&P 500 from the March 2009 low, many long/short equity managers have naturally benefited with sizable gains. Before assigning credit to these managers for any “stock-picking” prowess, I would encourage investors to compare their results with a simple ETF portfolio of Utilities and Staples (the “Utilities/Staples Test”). The results may surprise you.
    Happy investing,
    Mike_E
  • Paul Merriman: The One Asset Class Every Investor Needs
    FWIW, here the newest GMO 7 year forecast has U.S. Quality @ 2.3%, U.S. large cap @ -1.5%, and U.S. Small Cap @ -4.5% annual after inflation.
    I'm also dubious of M*'s Vanguard figures because they only update by the quarter. IJS, which is updated daily lists a P/E of 18.75 vs. ITOT which has a P/E of 17.33.
    Take with whatever grains of salt you like.
  • SUBFX
    Everyone, many thanks for the wise words.
    @heezsafe, you have steadied my wavering resolve. Yes, perhaps the glorious past returns wowed me and I hoped to get those, soon, but my rational reasons for buying it were not a dividend stream (I don't need that) but the opportunistic approach plus the visceral dislike for losing money. I think your approach is wise and I intend to imitate it: since I'm low on cash, I won't add more for now, but if the 10y tsy indeed goes to 2.25%, I'll add to SUBFX.
    @rjb112, I have looked at FPNIX, and it seems like a fund that successfully delivers what it promises, but my hope with SUBFX is that it will not lose money even when the market moves against it, but that when it gets it right, it will have a higher upside than FPNIX. So far, as heezsafe pointed out, it has at least fulfilled the first half of its promise.
    @STB65 If I understand RSIVX right, the manager does expect to be made whole at maturity, but since he goes as far out as 5 years, he may be down in a given year. I think it's a great fund, I've got a toehold in it, but since I want to be able to tap my bond funds for fresh cash in case of a stock market dip, RSIVX is probably not as good for me as SUBFX or FPNIX.
  • Balanced Mutual Funds
    Hard to beat Bruce (BRUFX).
    We should not hijack threads. Especially we shouldn't rub salt into the wounds of old bald farts in Texas who were not able to buy this fund and been rueing their fate for last 15 years
  • FundX monthly newsletter
    @Ted: Thanks for posting. I often get "locked out" when I try to access WSJ articles. The secret is finding the correct URL that allows access!
    @kanmani: I subscribed to Hulbert's Financial Digest for many years, and followed the performance of a bunch of newsletters for a long period, including the one you are interested in.
    NoLoad FundX was one of THE VERY best performers "forever". It was always on Hulbert's list of "The Best Performers" over 1 year, 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, etc. It could do no wrong.
    Then, as I posted above, the writers of the newsletter, Janet Brown 'and company', decided to carry out their strategy in a mutual fund, FUNDX....and I posted that FUNDX has lagged the S&P 500 over the past 10 years, 5 years, 3 years, 1 year!!
    Success is fickle! You said you are "considering jumping into this."
    You CANNOT know in advance if this newsletter is going to outperform or underperform the market. Repeat: You CANNOT know in advance........
    That's the bottom line. The newsletter has enjoyed long periods of outperformance and long periods of underperformance. You might as well toss a coin........
    I wouldn't bet the farm on this, unless you enjoy betting.
    But the same can be said about any active mutual fund: You cannot know in advance if it will outperform or underperform the market.
    What you CAN know is that a properly run index fund will come very close to the market return. Examples include VTSMX, VTI (the exchange traded counterpart), VXUS, Vanguard Total Intl Stock Index Inv VGTSX.
    The WSJ article stated that "each of the three winners lagged behind the S&P 500 in more than half of the five-year periods since 1980."
    So examine in advance what you would do if you went with the newsletter and invested according to it, and then went the next 5 years lagging behind the S&P 500. Most people would not have the 'faith' to continue with the newsletter and strategy. Most mere mortals would throw in the towel and find another investing methodology.
    By the way, another of the 3 winning newsletters mentioned by Hulbert was the Prudent Speculator, edited by John Buckingham. He also has 2 mutual funds, VALUX and VALDX.
    I see that while I have been typing, Charles has posted to this thread.
    Have no idea what he said. I'm just going to hit "Post Comment" and find out afterwards.
  • FundX monthly newsletter
    Can you provide a link to the article? ("featured by Hulbert in today's Wall Street Journal"), or a copy and paste of the article.
    I think you can learn a lot about the newsletter by studying FundX Upgrader, FUNDX.
    The portfolio managers of the fund are the same people who write the newsletter in question, e.g., Janet Brown. The mutual fund carries out the strategy of the newsletter.
    With FUNDX you are paying an extra 1.1% to have the newsletter writers enact their portfolio based on their newsletter. Plus you pay the individual funds' expense ratios, which you would pay anyway if you carried out the strategy on your own, by subscribing to the newsletter and not purchasing FUNDX. So Morningstar shows the expense ratio to be about 1.91%, but consider 1.1% to be the fee you pay the managers plus administration of the fund, and the rest is the expense ratios of the funds themselves.
    I can share one bit of experience about the newsletter. Although I've never subscribed, years ago I came across a few issues of it. There are a lot of 'transactions', buys and sells. I think it would be relatively uncommon to have a month or two with no transactions. It is a very active portfolio of mutual funds. The strategy of the newsletter is to always be in the funds with the best momentum. When a fund in the newsletter performs poorly, they don't hang around and wait for that fund to turn around and rebound. After a certain period of time, it will be kicked out and replaced by a fund with good performance momentum.
    The strategy is something to the effect of [don't quote me on this, I'm just giving you an estimate] ranking the performance of mutual funds over different time periods, such as 1 year, 9 months, 6 months, 3 months, 1 month. They have a weighting system to overweight more recent performance vs. 12 month performance.
    I believe the newsletter had awesome returns [consistently beat the market] for many years quite some time ago. I also believe that the returns in more recent years has not been very good, underperforming the market.
    I can tell you without a doubt that FUNDX had excellent returns on inception and for some time after that, and has had subpar returns for the past 5 and 10 years. FUNDX has underperformed the S&P 500 by 0.5% annualized for 10 years, and by 3.5% annualized for 5 years. Actually, FUNDX has underperformed the S&P 500 for the past 1, 3, 5 and 10 years, per Morningstar.
    That also means the newsletter in question has also underperformed for those periods, because as I mentioned, the authors of the newsletter carry out the newsletter's strategy in this mutual fund.
    Hope that helps.
  • SUBFX
    @Ted He who hunts with the same dogs, and the same strategy, day after day, year after year, who becomes oblivious to changes in terrain and flora (and, more significantly, to changes in fauna), may one day be on safari and find he is no longer the hunter, but the prey. Good luck, Big Dog--- you know what they used to feed to the lions in the zoos, dontcha?
    @expats I too entered into SUBFX last yr, in January, with a smallish sum, and have been feeding it as it moves around. To steady your wavering resolve, it might be helpful to revisit why you invested in this fund in the first place (do you remember?). Has it been managed as promised? Did you invest in it because it had an opportunistic approach + a visceral dislike for losing principle, or did you invest in it as an aggressive momentum play, that didn't play (it didn't promise the latter)? At some point, I'll stop feeding it and wait for it to pop again before feeding it further; or, if the 10y T goes to 2-2.25%, it's a buying op with its Treasury short. Otherwise, remember it is a total return bond fund, with few constrains on what it can/cannot hold, and what it can/cannot do to achieve this objective. It is not an income fund, they never promised us a dvd stream. Also, remember what it did last yr relative to others; it did o.k. So where's the beef?
    p.s. re. RSIVX: if the stock market corrects in a major way, you are not under the impression that Sherman's HY bonds will not decline as well, simply because they are of shorter duration, are you?
  • Paul Merriman: The One Asset Class Every Investor Needs
    @MJG: Very nice; thanks.
    The forward P/E of the Vanguard Small Cap Value fund is 16.65
    For the S&P 500 Index fund, it is 17.01
    In terms of predicting the relative future performance, I guess that gives the small cap value index a slight edge. Of course there are a lot of other factors besides the forward P/E ratio, not the least of which is the accuracy of those forward earnings forecasts.
    For me the bigger factor is that I have been fully invested for a long time. For me to invest in small cap value, I would have to sell current holdings to make the switch, and that involves both Federal capital gains tax, and a State tax in a tax-unfriendly State.
    If you do the math, it's a difficult hurdle. $100 invested today becomes much less than $100 after both Federal and State taxes on the gains are removed. Then, even if the new investment has a higher percentage return than the old, that higher percentage is applied to a lower principal amount. Selling a total market index fund in order to purchase a small cap value fund is a dicey proposition, as is selling another mutual fund to do the same.
  • Balanced Mutual Funds
    Checked with Yahoo finance. PRWCX appears to be the winner over the last (10 yrs.) It beat BUFBX by 12.75 % !! Will it's performance continue over the next 10 years? Your guess is as good as anybody.
    Have a good weekend & lets move on.., Derf
  • Balanced Mutual Funds
    From Multi-Search Tool...
    Three conservative (VWINX, BERIX, GLRBX):
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    Three moderate (VWELX, PRWCX, MAPOX):
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  • The Closing Bell: U.S. Stocks End Higher
    Seriously.
    You're not seeing any of this?
    If you're doing well, you're definitely doing well.
    Do I think there's another 2008 tomorrow? No, but you see some overbuilding in things like hotels. There were a whole lot of hotel projects in major cities in 2007,too and many of them never happened.
    You also had instances of hotels refinancing/taking on additional debt at the peak who got into issues in the years after when cash inflows could not service the debt. It's remarkable how many hotel projects there are in some major cities at this point. It's not people taking advantage after the bust, it's years later and you're seeing the rush. Maybe it's not Blackstone buying Hilton at the top, but feels a little like that.
    Feels like the hotel industry is one big "Whocouldaknown?" Was there one hotel REIT that didn't drop (wholly or completely) the dividend in 2008?
    This is a lovely chart:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=BEE+Interactive#symbol=BEE;range=my
    (nearly $25 in mid-2007 and dropped to less than a buck by early 2009. Has it come back? Absolutely, but still less than half the highs.)
    "Go clean.
    Go green."
    Until the next downturn. No one has any long-term vision. Green does well with oil where it is. Oil drops, people forget about it.
    "Everybody owns an i-something."
    I wouldn't necessarily say that's a good thing. "Chicken in every pot, Iphone in every hand?"
    "Innovations in health."
    Any that are going to bring soaring costs down?
    " even HELOCs."
    Oh, good. Because there's evidence that people used those sensibly before.
    Or, if you will, a gif response about HELOCs coming back:
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    "Refurbished bridges."
    Maybe where you're living. I'd say the country as a whole wasted a huge opportunity during this period to focus on infrastructure.
    "Packed stadiums"
    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/attendance-down-not-just-at-miami-marlins-games-060513
    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=87981
    Concert ticket prices rise, sales fall.
    "Construction of new homes."
    Yet, first time buyers aren't there and what's primarily selling seems to be the higher end homes (Again, if you're doing well, you're doing very well.).
    Stats on % change by price
    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/Schizo housing recovery May.jpg
    Also, interesting that years ago people were scrambling to convert rentals into condos for sale at the top. Now, you have the reverse: people scrambling to convert condos into rentals. Story on CNBC the other day about a Florida situation where investors bought up the majority of a condo property, to the point where they could force a buyout of the remaining owners, many of whom bought at the top and would now be accepting less than half. You have rents soaring, because so many people can't buy for various reasons.
    Again, I'm not saying another 2008 is around the corner. I'm simply saying, there's the feeling that when things do turn, it'll just be history repeating itself. Easy money boom, easy money bust and, to some degree, back at square one. It's not about creating anything sustainable, it's all about consumption. It's the easiest monetary policy in history and I'm not looking forward to when things eventually turn. I have the feeling that when the next crisis happens, it will be evident that few people learned anything from the last one.
  • SUBFX
    @expatsp:Hi Ted, I'm very aggressive right now: about 85% equities, 10% bonds, 5% cash. Welcome to get off the porch and hunt with the big dogs.
    Regards,
    Ted
  • Paul Merriman: The One Asset Class Every Investor Needs
    Hi rjb112,
    What works on Wall Street is not constant. That’s why the super quants who currently run the most successful Hedge funds are so secretive about their methods and must use the highest speed computers to find and to exploit the market inefficiencies.
    Folks have been learning this investment lesson forever. Jesse Livermore never revealed his secrets and continuously revised them based on present conditions.
    In 1996, James O’Shaughnessy wrote a book titled “What Works on Wall Street” after much research. It was celebrated as the most influential investment book over decades. When O’Shaughnessy initiated a mutual fund to put his findings into practice, it failed miserably. He sold the fund, and the methods he discovered generated excess returns for a period thereafter. Investment strategies come and go and often return. These things are highly transient.
    Risk and reward are tied at the hip, but with a bungee cord so that departures in time and space are variable and unpredictable. But the cord does exist. It is captured in the Wall Street rule of a regression-to-the-mean.
    Each investor gets to choose his own risk level. As Ben Franklin said: “He that would catch fish, must venture his bait”. More recently, Nassim Taleb observed: “Risk taking is necessary for large success – but it is also necessary for failure”. You get to pick where on the risk spectrum your portfolio is positioned.
    There are no free lunches. The marketplace is not a perfect measuring machine and is never in equilibrium. Markets move in that ideal direction, but never quite get there. Some exogenous event disrupts the process. Physically, it’s like an agitated coiled spring that is slowing down to an equilibrium, but gets an unexpected push. Opportunities present themselves but are extremely transient. Hard work is the price to identifying opportunities.
    Two themes that run throughout Scott Patterson’s excellent book “The Quants” are the secret, competitive nature of its participants, and the need for hypersonic speed. The market pricing dislocations don’t persist. For these wiz-kids, The Truth is an elusive target. Emotions are high and disaster is always near, especially when excessive leverage is deployed to magnify small percentage profits into outsized wealth.
    Many long-term players say investing is conceptually easy, but difficult to execute. When David Swensen was writing “Unconventional Success”, he changed the entire format of his book to advocate an Index approach when he realized that the average investor had neither the time, knowledge, or resources needed to execute the strategies deployed by successful professionals.
    In the business world size does matter.
    A reasonable analogy is the human lifecycle. A vibrant adult (a mature business) is better equipped to endure and survive “the slings and arrows of outrageous (mis)fortune” than a baby (an upstart business).
    Again, historically investment asset classes do have a pecking order in terms of expected returns with anticipated risk factors. Typically, but not always since the marketplace can be wild and illogical for excruciatingly long periods, Small Cap rewards are expected to outdistance Large Cap returns. The historical data generally supports this proposition.
    Although Small Caps are often expected to deliver about 2 % incremental returns over their Large Cap brethren, current investor perceptions that are both factually and emotionally driven do distort these projections. Why?
    Small size often makes the company more vulnerable to unexpected perturbations. Typically their product line is more focused and not as diverse as a Large firm. Another risk factor is that growing businesses are often not geography dispersed. Their marketing is regional, not international, so localized disturbances more directly impact their sales.
    The accessible funding line for these smaller outfits is more fragile with lower reserves and less access to loans and at higher interest rates when they can be secured. Large companies have survived their growing phase and are more stable; smaller firms are more subject to business model failures and exogenous disruptions (a new competitor or invention) with bankruptcy a higher probability.
    The bottom-line is that the old investment saw of “Diversification, diversification, diversification” is operative with respect to business sizes. Smart large businesses have the resources to do it, small businesses do not.
    The equity marketplace recognizes these small organization frailties in the risk-reward tradeoffs. Standard deviation is one incomplete measure of risk that is easily available for all stocks.
    An example of the market’s pricing sensitivities is to compare the Vanguard S&P 500 Index (VFINX) with the Vanguard Small Cap Value Index (VISVX) funds. My comparison dates to 1998 which is the first year of operation for the Small Cap Value fund. Here is a Link to that data set:
    http://quotes.morningstar.com/fund/visvx/f?rbtnTicker=Ticker&t=VISVX&x=0&y=0&SC=Q&pageno=0&TLC=
    Since VISVX inception, it has cumulatively outperformed the S&P 500 Index. From the Morningstar’s chart, VISVX has turned an initial $10K investment into $39.6K while the large cap S&P 500 produced $23.6K.
    Given the wild rides of the marketplace, this ordering of outcome will not persist for all specific timeframes. One thing is certain; change will happen.
    Once again historically, the marketplace belonged to Mom and Pop investors. Now, professional players dominate the landscape. Indexing was nearly nonexistent early-on. Now it is 30% of the investment funds (about half professional and half Mom and Pop). Vanguard now controls more money than does Fidelity. Sea changes are not uncommon in the investment world, so an individual investor must always be alert.
    Investment opportunities quickly fade. The speed needed to take advantage of these opportunities almost always takes the individual investor out of the ballgame. Even Hedge funds suffer this fate. But some general principles remain like diversification and reversion-to-the-mean.
    I hope this helps. Enough pontificating. Thanks for giving me the chance to do so.
    Best Wishes.
  • SUBFX
    Hi Ted, I'm very aggressive right now: about 85% equities, 10% bonds, 5% cash. No health care funds. I expect I'm about 30 years from retirement and I did manage during the last market crash to hold tight and add when things looked bleak -- that's how my asset allocation ended up as it is, I moved from bonds and cash into stocks in '08-'09 and have so far only dialed that back only slightly. (Before I sound like a genius, I didn't have that much bonds and cash then either, so the shift was only about 10% of my portfolio, but boy, that 10% made all the difference.)
    But given how aggressive my asset allocation is right now, it's really important that my bond funds not lose money in a downturn. I don't need the upside from that part of my portfolio. Which perhaps means I have just answered my question...
  • SUBFX
    Last March, I put a chunk of change into SUBFX. It's my largest bond fund (my other two are RSIVX and MAINX.) It's been disappointing, pretty much even, about 3% below its category average and about 4% below its benchmark according to M* since I bought it.
    That said, 15 months is a very short time on which to judge a fund, especially once whose past (before I bought it, alas) is so glorious. Its managers say they are not finding good values in the current market so are keeping a lot of cash and at least at times have been shorting Treasuries -- a bad bet, as it turns out.
    Should I give up on this fund, swap into RSIVX, which has been slow and steady, just as promised, or into ARTFX, a new small fund with a great experienced manager? Or should I sit tight and be pleased that even though SUBFX's big bet -- that rates would rise -- has been wrong, it's still managed to stay pretty much even? It is bad that they got this bet wrong so far, but good that their risk controls have kept them from suffering too much for it.
    A note: I don't keep a lot of cash in my portfolio, so I really want my bond funds to do well in a crash -- I don't want too much correlation with stocks.
  • Mom And Pop Pull Cash From U.S. Stocks
    FYI: Investors pulled a net $1.5 billion from traditional U.S. stock mutual funds in the four weeks ended June 25, according fund-tracker Lipper. In that time, the S&P 500 index advanced 2.6% and reached 10 new all-time highs
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/27/mom-pop-pull-cash-from-u-s-stocks/tab/print/
  • Can't Decide Where To Invest ? You're Not Alone
    FYI: Copy & Paste 6/25/14: Gail Marks Jarvis: Chicago Tribune
    Regards,
    Ted
    Pricey stocks, bonds have experts guessing too
    You are agonizing over where to invest your money, you aren't alone.
    The pros are there with you — nervous about stocks and bonds as clear opportunities become fuzzy in both. As the best and brightest fund managers talked at Morningstar's three-day conference in Chicago last week, they repeatedly expressed reservations.
    They see Treasury bonds vulnerable to the inevitable climb of interest rates, and corporate and high-yield bonds paying so little interest that there isn't enough insulation to protect investors if the economy suddenly weakens or if investors get cold feet. After the unrelenting climb of stocks since 2009, the pros see a stock market so pricey that stocks appear vulnerable to any bad news for the economy or companies.
    But the difference between you and professionals who run mutual funds is that fund managers are hired to do something with clients' money, no matter what. While sitting on cash rather than stocks or bonds might provide security in an iffy environment, cash earns no interest thanks to a Federal Reserve policy designed to get people to choose riskier options. Even though many pros say they are flummoxed by a market in which everything from stocks and bonds to currencies and commodities have all become pricey because of the trillions of dollars worth of stimulus poured into the markets by the Federal Reserve and counterparts in Europe and Japan, fund managers are doing what they think they must: deploying money where they can make a case for satisfactory results even though they expect high prices to hold back future gains.
    They are emboldened by the fact that prices are high — but not outrageously high.
    After all, even though pros have worried about bonds and pricey stocks for months, the Standard & Poor's 500 stock market index has managed to bestow gains of 5.5 percent this year while bonds haven't incurred the losses that pros thought were a sure thing earlier this year. There hasn't even been a correction (a short-term downturn of 10 percent in the stock market) for 32 months. Such a long stretch without a sizable dip in the markets has happened only four other times, according to Gluskin Sheff economist David Rosenberg.
    Still, bond fund managers Mark Egan, of Scout Investments, and Bill Eigen, of JPMorgan Asset Management, told a Morningstar audience of financial advisers that they are so concerned about the lack of opportunity in bonds that they have parked about 60 percent of their clients' money temporarily in cash. Pimco's Mohit Mittal has about 28 percent of his portfolio in cash.
    Cash will hold back bond fund gains if bonds continue to do well. But Eigen figures interest rates will eventually rise, investors will panic and try to bail out of bonds so quickly that bonds will suffer sharp losses. Then he plans to buy bargains.
    Fund managers typically avoid holding more than 5 percent cash because waiting for deals can take longer than expected, and investors get impatient when their mutual funds are earning less than other more daring funds.
    Considering the high prices of stocks, some fund managers who specialize in stocks also are holding substantially more cash than usual. Even those scouring the world for investments are having difficulty finding stocks cheap enough to buy.
    While some have suggested buying cheaper stocks in European markets, Ben Inker, director of asset allocation for GMO, is cautious about Europe.
    "You can find some cheap companies, but all of them have hair on them," he told the Morningstar audience of over 1,000 financial advisers. "Some places that aren't even cheap have hair on them."
    Since money managers must find something to buy, Treasury bonds that mature in five to seven years "are not a wonderful place to be, but are OK," he said.
    Meanwhile, Dennis Stattman, who heads BlackRock's asset allocation team, said stocks of large Japanese companies that sell to the world are significantly cheaper than U.S. companies. He's trimmed some exposure to U.S. stocks because they've become so pricey and added Japanese companies.
    While some investors have been interested in European financial companies that appear cheap, Stattman said "in many cases they are overlevered and in possession of bad assets."
    European stocks have climbed significantly simply because the "European Central Bank took off the table the fear of banks failing." But "governments have promised too much and taxed too little."
    Meanwhile, Michael Hasenstab, chief investment officer for Franklin Templeton global bonds, says two of his favorite markets for bonds have been Poland and Hungary, and he's comforted that the continuation of stimulus from the U.S. Federal Reserve and counterparts in Europe, Japan and China will power many emerging markets.
  • Seafarer Conference Call Today
    @Charles
    Glad you were able to enjoy the Coastal Trail on a balmy day. The last time I walked that beach, the wind almost ripped the clothes from my body! Where are you "camping"--- at Clint Eastwood's lodge? :)
    @David_Snowball
    I'll be looking forward to the prospectus changes Andrew Foster wants to make, as well as to the report of your visit with Bryan Krug at the M* conference (I have suspicions--- just a wild guess--- you are hoarding it for the monthly commentary).
    Good luck with The New You Plan, and stop being such a baby re. the legumes; if you treat them gently/respectfully, and don't overcook, then they're good to go:
    http://news.health.com/2014/06/09/are-you-eating-enough-powerhouse-vegetables/
    p.s. low salt diet is considered 1500 mg/day or less