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Selectively pick a metric that supports your position, then state your conclusion. QED.Share prices have almost tripled since the March 2009 low, as measured by the S&P 500 index, and are now richly valued.
Will be interesting to see what you come up with, David. Appreciate if you will also include your methodology, some of the details of how you came up with it.You can measure the valuations at bear market lows by a variety of stats; p/e is common, but Leuthold tracks four others. For p/e, bear market lows tend to be at the 25th percentile of their historic means; that is, the market returns to fair value (the 50th percentile) and proceeds to overshoot on the downside but typically bottoms at the 25th percentile. Getting there from here would require something like a 33% decline. (I'll check the exact number later this evening when I'm in my study.)
David
Look, i am not trying to start a war. If you sold earlier then you did when vs what and good for you. However then why criticise the fund?@vintagefreak:
Well when I bought the fund, it was concentrated, but not to this extent.
From Fairholme reports:
In Nov 2008, largest holding Pfizer 18.7%, next Sears 6%
Nov 2009, largest holding Sears 10.6%, Berkshire 10.1%
Nov 2010, largest holding General Growth properties 13%, next AIG 9.2%
Nov 2011, largest holding AIG 26%, AIA Group 11.4%, Sears 10.7%
Nov 2012, largest holding AIG 42.3%, Bank of America 11.5%
I sold when the fund was still doing well (progressively sold over end of 2013 to
beginning of Jan 2014). I should have probably pulled the trigger earlier, but it
was definitely not as a result of a big drop like last week.
I think you are exactly correct. People invested in FAIRX because of Bruce Berkowitz and his superb stock managerial skills. Investors in FAIRX did not feel they needed to scour the portfolio and second guess the manager. Then out of the blue one day it's, "What, 50% of my investment is in AIG, common stock plus warrants"? 15% in BAC. Sears....ahhh. St. Joe, another risky stock. Then Freddie and Fannie, whose very existence depends on court cases, super high risk. Add it all up..... All of a sudden, this is not the guy who for years said, "Rule number one, don't lose money"....Rule number 2, don't forget rule number 1". Any FAIRX investor can handle a large weighting in Berkshire Hathaway, because most FAIRX investors are very well disposed towards value and towards Warren Buffett. I sold all my FAIRX at the end of 2013 and first week of 2014. It was the accumulated risk that the portfolio had taken on, and concomitant loss of faith that BB was really following Rule number 1 and Rule number 2, as he had promised.I had not heard of Fairholme before I came here but it sounds like the fund slowly condensed like cooking on the stove. A lot of shareholders may not have realized what was happening until it was too late.
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